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On March 21 2008 03:42 qrs wrote:
IOW, let's just save some time and agree that no PM = claim to be a towny.
this idea makes no sense. No PM also means Mafia members just never have to worry about contacting me, and then they also know that not every townie has PM'd me so it's easier for them to just lay low and not get caught lying.
If everyone has to PM me, eventually I'll catch some role clashes and some lies.
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On March 21 2008 03:49 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 01:10 Mynock wrote: I just now had time to catch up to the latest events and I have a couple things to say. Firstly, fusion, lay off of Ace please? Ace seems absolutely competent for his job, if based only on the fact that he's not acting based on emotions (unlike many of you here). Lynching iNc was easily justified, and explained oh so many times. If a person doesn't respond for 2 days while having a PM about being a Mad Hatter in their mailbox... well, nobody could have possibly predicted that. iNc is pretty much at fault himself here.
Also, lynching Empyrean is only in the mafia's best interests. Why? Well, if I was mafia, I would now be pretty much confused about Empyrean's role (and chances of him being mafia are not too high actually). I think the following course of events is likely: If we largely predict Empyrean to be dead tonight, they will leave him be and have him attract suspicion to himself. If however we largely predict that they will know we think so, and that's exactly the reason they kept him alive, we should not jump the gun too soon because we risk lynching an active townie.
Had we lynched Empyrean first day, that's a lot of problems off of mafia's shoulders, less guessing for them to do. Still, Emp presents a good target for the mafia even now, so helping them by going ahead and doing the job for them is in no way a good strategy.
As for the Mad Hatter, I can't believe how some of you base your arguments on the mere fact that he happened to be a blue. If anything, it was iNc's fault! Ace went out of his way to ensure a role would not be harmed, his actions clearly shown it.
Calm down people, and be reasonable. Now that we have a solid foundation for the game, let's do our best to build up from here, and work together with the people in office. what guessing would they have to do lol? empyrean being alive is a much bigger burden for us than for them
no it isn't. Mynock's logic makes sense.
Whether or not Empyrean is a DT or not the only people that would really benefit from his death right now are Mafia if he isn't one.
They have the option of leaving his suspicion to us, or racking their brains trying to figure out if he really was a DT.
If he really was, well then if they let him live he goes around unscathed doing his thing.
Either way Empyrean isn't getting lynched by the town just yet.
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I don't think you get it:
If everyone sent me a PM saying their townie - GREAT.
Now when all the blues PM me I know they all match up and are 100% confirmed.
So now I knock 34 names off the suspect list, incorporate them into the network and all suspects are also on the "vanilla townie" list.
A PM that tells me "hi I'm townie" holds a lot of weight.
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you understand it. Thing is the"inactive" problem is can be taken care of easily.
Also, I already have ideas on ho to confirm people. I don't need all 100+ players, and yes even the silent ones are going to get fished out.
I'm guessing Mafia have some silent members, some that only vote, and surely some posting in this thread actively to try and mess things up.
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On March 21 2008 04:42 Lysithea wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 04:23 Falcynn wrote: Then again the amount of information they could get by getting into this network is probably worth more than one mafia's life so...ok I'm not really sure how to feel about this right now.
Exactly what I want to avoid, losing because of a lucky move by mafia would suck. Ace says he can prevent that however. Can't really figure out how, guess I'll know by the time we have Ace confirmed and pms start flowing. I just want the secure group to be as secure it can get, with no holes in the path securing it 
first of all, even the people who I think are legit won't know any other persons roles. The only people that would have that list are myself and the Bodyguards.
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On March 21 2008 04:41 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 04:36 bumatlarge wrote:On March 21 2008 04:34 nemY wrote: Hey.
I'm a townie. No joke here folks. The main reason everyone would send their roles is to determine blues. If a blue posted his role in thread, mafia will kill them obviously! By PM, blues can keep identities safe with Ace. They should still wait for a detectives confirmation though, let's wait til morning. Well I don't want to die, so just thought I'd clarify that for everyone to see that I am in fact a townie.
You do realize declaring you are a townie is a very selfish move right?
Either you're trying to confuse mafia, or your mafia hoping we don't lynch you and serving as a distraction.
It's stunts like this that I would rather have gotten a PM.
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On March 21 2008 05:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I did like to know how many mafioso voted for Ace but thats probably to much to ask
cant do that, check the rules
@ziel: It's been how many days now? Come on, people have got to be playing by now or the town would be as good as dead from the get go.
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hmmm?
how so?
sacrificing themselves to save the town from a corrupt Mayor? I don't see the problem.
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On March 21 2008 05:25 OneBlueAugust wrote: This may have been clarified earlier, but activity is judged not just by forum posts, right? I've been relatively active in PMs, as I feel that's the only wise way to express my thoughts at the moment, but I haven't posted here yet at all.
voting counts as activity too.
But soon, people that just don't do anything BUT vote will obviously be suspected.
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they wont say it publicly. If no DT steps up, I'm obviously innocent.
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I've read everything up till now, I'll be back later to post conclusions. Right now I'm not saying anything so Mafia have no idea whats in the plan.
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random: right now I think everyone is just waiting for the mafia to strike tonight b4 believing everything.
Once tomorrow comes and the voting starts, a lot of the Townies will have their minds made up and know where to go from there.
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Yea waiting for this day post hurts
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Eti I strongly suggest you catch up, a lot has happened in the the pages from like 50+ till now.
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thats one of the plans. No blind lynching unless something comes up that isn't available to the public eye.
Of course I'll always try and explain all my votes as best as I can.
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I don't think the Mafia want to kill plain Townies Empyrean lol
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On March 22 2008 06:40 Showtime! wrote: No, but Empyrean is a sexy beast.
They kill him off and then we're down one sexy beast.
you mean...we don't have anymore?
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oh shit didn't even realize Inc was an ultralisk 
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All blue roles that can act in the day DO NOT ACT yet.
Hold on for a while. And by now all of you should realize I'm innocent.
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