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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 24 2008 00:44 GMT
#6292
suresh0t, your defense is so horrible reading it makes my eyes bleed:

PLEXA SAID I'M INNOCENT:

Good for you, Plexa said the same thing about me too, yet you still point the finger at me.

RANDOM PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS "X" "Y" OR "Z" MAFIA, YET OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE WRONG

Wow that's great. People have said the same thing about me too; YET you still point the finger at me.

MAFIA PEOPLE SUSPECTED ME LIKE NINJA4EVER

I looked at the voting histories in Chuiu's blog. There has never been a single (THAT MEANS 0) mafia member that has voted to try and lynch you (I'm basing this off of confirmed dead mafias, not people who are suspects, or people you SUSPECT like me).

THE CLUES ARE SPREAD BETWEEN "X" AND "Y" MAFIA

No they aren't. Someone posted a pile of shit that you've been clinging to as a defense; everybody else dismissed it and moved on. Everybody, except you (and maybe that someone I guess lol)

I'M GOING TO FIND A BETTER MORE LIKELY PERSON TO LYNCH

No. You. Didn't. You just bandwagoned me, which is I guess the best option you could do in this situation. It's too late for you to introduce someone new as a suspect so you fell back on me. Gratz, you didn't post anything new and made the lame excuse of "everything's already been posted before".

In the end though none of this makes me nearly as frustrated as the inactives in this game. Seriously it pisses me off that we have victory in our grasps, but the threat of defeat looms so ominously close by because of fucking inactives.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 24 2008 03:48 GMT
#6300
TOO EASY

GG BITCHES

ALL YOU HATERS SAYING I'M MAFIA ( JTAN, QRS (LOL YOU'RE SO FUCKING RETARDED, SAYING SURESH0T IS MAFIA AND VOTING FOR ME LOL), BUGZ, AND OF COURSE SURESH0T) CAN SUCK MY FUCKING DICK.

BITCHES

LIKE I'M FUCKING MAFIA NOW.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 24 2008 03:51 GMT
#6301
ANYONE ELSE THAT'S MAFIA WANNA POINT THE FINGER AT ME? HOW ABOUT YOU JTAN?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 24 2008 03:54 GMT
#6302
but... on a more serious note, who do we suspect as mafia now? lol. Guide us Wysp! Lead us to the promised land!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 24 2008 06:40 GMT
#6309
On June 24 2008 14:10 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2008 14:01 suresh0t wrote:
you guys take shit so personally


Truth. Remember this is a game people


ehh? sorry if I was hard on you suresh0t... no hard feelings i know you were just trying to do your job

Generally everything I say is not out of anger/spite, but just for fun to excite the game a bit you know?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 25 2008 23:49 GMT
#6330
On June 25 2008 00:53 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2008 12:30 suresh0t wrote:
qrs you must feel good hehe

Sure. Although I can't say it came as a huge surprise.
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2008 12:48 nemY wrote:
QRS (LOL YOU'RE SO FUCKING RETARDED, SAYING SURESH0T IS MAFIA AND VOTING FOR ME LOL)
You were both Mafia. I can't vote for two people, eh?


You still believe that now?

In response to the guys who are retards/inactives and decided to start posting "mysterious" statements this late in the game:

Just

Go

Away
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 21:15:04
June 26 2008 21:14 GMT
#6346
-I like the str --> Mr. Orange connection with the exception that it doesn't really explain Mr. Orange's inability or lack of desire to talk

-I dunno about the CDRDude --> ??? mafia connection. Yeah he's on the Showtime! List, but his inactivity throughout most of the middle-end seems... I dunno just not mafiaish I guess. Besides I haven't seen anything that could really match "CDR" or "Dude".

-qrs, I'd argue the information you've brought up, but as you said most of it is circumstantial. I'll concede that the Mr. Blond/Cottonmouth kill does look awfully suspicious of me, but that's one days worth of clues. The suspicious behavior part I find ridiculous and hypocritical, but given that this game is drawing to an end, I suppose most everyone, but Wysp's posts could be deemed "suspicious" :/

-On a final note, I think jtan is mafia. His reason for voting to lynch me is weak, and he still hasn't addressed the points I made way back on page 301

On June 05 2008 14:41 nemY wrote:
Dispute this then.


Show nested quote +
On May 16 2008 10:34 clazziquai wrote:
On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.


Let's lynch nemY I'm 9000% sure he is mafia




Show nested quote +
On May 25 2008 01:40 randombum wrote:
On May 25 2008 01:24 Camlito wrote:


Ok going through profiles, the only mirror i see is nemY


NEMY I KNEW IT




Yeah sure he came up with some lame excuse that clazz was trying to cover me (given clazz's behavior throughout most the game, I'd say that's highly unlikely), but he never addressed why RANDOMBUM (now a confirmed mafioso) would accuse me. Might as well tally up suresh0t to that list. Could add L, but I suppose that's beating the bush, besides he said he voted to lynch me for "giggles". Reverse this situation, WHOSE been mafia that's voted for jtan? Answer? None. He's been suspected, but nothing ever concrete came up of it.

From my view of things, it looks like jtan was trying to split yesterday's lynch vote... therefore he's highly suspicious to me. Then again, what have I ever said that's been taking seriously?

edit: seriously not serious lol
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 27 2008 09:06 GMT
#6354
HEY GUYS LET'S TALK ABOUT ME, BUT NOT ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT I POST OK?
[image loading]
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 28 2008 08:25 GMT
#6370
Oh this sucks so much fucking dick, I hate you Chuiu!

Expect a post from qrs soon about how ShaLLoW[baY]'s death is a mirror reversal of Bockit's lynching.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 29 2008 22:11 GMT
#6379
updated list of alive users
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=71784

I also withdraw my vote from str, because I really don't think he's mafia... I'll figure out someone better soon I hope :l
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 01 2008 05:36 GMT
#6389
You do realize my bday is on the 15th as well right?
So is Wysp's lol.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 01 2008 06:03 GMT
#6390
-Mr. Blond
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead

-displays superhuman speed
-rammed into his target
-possibly? Killed target.

Day 2
Evening seemed to drag on forever as everyone worried over the turn of events the town faced. But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
-came down from ceiling
-was bashed in the face by target
-target went to look for his shotgun but found only a smiley “” face in it’s place
-eliminates target with shotgun before target could reach him


Day 5
Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. He could see d.arkive running through some corridors looking for someone, anyone. He found Hittegods. d.arkive ran towards Hittegods as he was examining some photos and hit a button. An explosion ripped apart nearly half of the building and it sent everyone outside ducking for cover as debris flew all over. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.

-can talk
-dodges the remains of a flying door
-“jets” to his target, again with the super speed
-soundly hits his target twice (one punch, one kick)
-retreats when his target wields a weapon


Day 7
G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.

-mocks his target for his failures
-wields a gun
-again with the speed, he dodges his target’s attack and injures his target
-eliminates his target with a gunshot to the head


Day 9

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.

-charges through the front door, which ends up shattering all the nearby/surrounding windows (assuming this is a convenience store with many windows)
-stabs his target with 15 knifes, 3 in each arm, 3 in each leg, 2 in the chest, and 1 in the original location where he first stabbed his target (3x4)+2+1 = 15
-does not match Cottonmouth’s killing pattern (aside from the 15 knifes, Cottonmouth went 1 in the shoulder, 3 in one arm, 3 in both legs (which is 1+(3x3) = 10), and finished his target with 5 (in the shape of a pentagram) in his target’s chest (15 knifes total)


Day 13
Losing two members that day the mafia decided to pull all the stops and hit the town where it mattered. They were through messing around and Mr. Orange, Eddie, and Mr. Blonde were about to prove that by taking out Fanatacist and Ace once and for all. Ace and Fanatacist were sitting at a desk going over detective files trying to find the remaining few mafia when the three barged into the room. Ace quickly grabbed the phone to call for backup but it was too late as Mr. Orange had landed a dagger right on the phone line cutting him off. Mr. Blonde shot across the room and grabbed all the notes dumping them into a trash bin nearby. He lit a match and set the whole thing on fire hoping this was the last copy the town had to go off. Mr. Orange, Mr. Blonde and Eddie all got out pistols and fired round after round at Ace and Fanatacist who were helpless to stop them. Eddie went up to Ace and he was terrified as Eddie finished him off but firing one last round into his head.

-again with the speed, Mr. Blonde “shoots” across the room
-burns the town’s notes
-pulls out a pistol and finishes the two targets with the combined help from Eddie, and Mr. Orange


Day 15]
Cottonmouth organized a strike force of mafia to take on a few troublesome townies who had the tendency to keep watches at night. With three mafia it would be sufficient enough to take on three regular joes. So he, along with the Wolf and Mr. Blonde, went to Jimtudor's house and broke in. This automatically set off their home made alarm system and the mafia squelched it right after but the damage was done and they were alerted to mafia presence. Supah, Alethios, and Jimtudor got ready with their handmade weapons, aware that most of the time Mafia did not carry weapons favoring to kill without alerting the neighborhood to their presence. Cottonmouth expecting more trouble went back to his car and handed five plumbata's to each of his comrades. Prepared for the fight to come they burst through the basement door and each threw one at their targets. Two missed and one hit a garbage can lid that Supah was using as a shield. The townies made their counter attack, the stairs leading down to the basement collapsed and the mafia came crashing down hard stunning and injuring them. Not enough though as they were able to ward off the crude melee weapons the town had fashioned from a yard rake, a baseball bat, and a broken chain. Mr. Blonde was able to grab a hold of the yard rake Supah was using and kicked it to break it in half, the Wolf grabbed hold of the chain and pulled it out of Jimtudor's hand then flung it to the side and tossed one of his remaining darts in his shoulder, and Cottonmouth deflected Alethios baseball bat and stabbed him in the foot with a dart. Mr. Blonde threw two plumbata's at Supah and then used the broken off rake handle and stabbed him with it, he then finished off Supah by stabbing a dart into his face. The Wolf lunged for the chain and wrapped it around Jimtudor's leg, then he pulled hard and caused him to fall to the ground. Cottonmouth finished off Alethios by stabbing the rest of the darts into his chest. And the three ganged up on Jimtudor and plunged their remaining darts into his face.

-trips the alarm system (well all 3 of them do)
-throws a plumbata but misses all 3 of the targets
-grabs hold of the yard rake his target was using and breaks it in half by kicking it (possibly requiring some speed/force/strength to do this, it’s hard to recreate an accurate visual in my mind of this scene)
-distracts his target by throwing two plumbata’s into at his target and then uses the broken yard rake to stab his target
-finishes his target by stabbing him in the face with a plumbata
-assists his other two mafia members in eliminating the final target when they all stab the remaining darts into the target’s face


Day 17
In the dark shed in ShaLLoW[baY]'s backyard Mr. Blonde gleefully waiting in silence clutching his weapon. ShaLLoW[baY] made his way to the shed slowly inspecting his petunias after the storm had passed. He was shocked to say the least when he opened the door. Mr. Blonde swatting ShaLLoW[baY] with the front end of the yard tool causing him to stumble backward into a trap Mr. Blonde had set of several nails on the ground. Having punctured his foot on a rather rusty one ShaLLoW[baY] began hopping frantically trying to pry the devil from his foot as he screamed in pain. Mr. Blonde used this opportunity to maneuver himself behind his victim and he killed ShaLLoW[baY] in one swift vengeful blow by shoving the rake up his ass.

-“gleefully” waits for his target with his weapon
-sets a trap for his target
-smacks his target with a yard rake causing his target to fall back onto some rusty nails (the trap)
-eliminates his target by raping him with the rake
-kills his target with a “swift vengeful blow” (rape raking), again with the speed and power



My suspect for Mr. Blonde = HotZhot

Why? For a number of reasons

-claims to have known who the true Mr. Blonde is, but has revealed 0 relevant information
-his profile picture comes from an anime, most notably a hentai that GranDim found out on page 184

On April 04 2008 12:37 GranDim wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
Traits
- One shot kill
- targets the head

HotZhot is my primary suspect here. Notably because he has such good aim and whatnot. However, i am hesitant to convict him at this stage because of this;
[image loading]

His profile image looks like a wolf person - this means (imo) that he cannot be the character "The Wolf" with such a strong connection to the name. Up to the town i guess!

More on the picture
Its a crop from this wallpaper
[image loading]
The character is from a hentai series http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1524,rfykgv,maho_shojo_ai.html (work safe link). However I doubt this has much relevance, unless chuiu is heavily into anime wallpapers or hentai he couldn't have made that link.


most specifically if you read the link you'll notice this,
Yuragi noticed Akitoshi and began to attack him. Then, the fighter, Ai, appeared and cut them down.


the fighter comes out of nowhere and eliminates the target, this I feel bodes well with the whole theme of Mr. Blonde displaying superhuman speed.

-his name, HotZhot which can be interpreted to mean "Hot Shot" fits well with the Day 7 and 9 killings, why? Because people who are "Hot Shots" are generally stuck up and full of themselves
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


consider that with Mr. Blonde's mocking of Naruto and his desire to "get everyone's attention in the double murder or Amor and Alvientene"

-the "i only smile in the dark" connects well with Day 2's killing of Mynock and Day 17's killing of Shallow[bay] (gleefully --> smiling in the dark)

-the raping of shallow[bay] connects very well with the overall hentai theme of his profile picture ;/


Flaws

Looking back on it, the smiley face in Day 2 was almost certainly Clazzaquai's doing, his profile quote was something like "me from kirbati, no speak english^^';"
As most everyone on here knows, "^^;" is a korean/anime face for smiling =/

Conclusion

Regardless how you guys feel about this, I think it's safe to say the mirror theory is flawed. Mr. Blonde has yet to directly mirror anyone's actions. I'm still working on a few other viable leads =/
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 01 2008 06:08 GMT
#6391
Figuring out who the remaining mafia are is also proving to be quite difficult, obviously there are 3 mafia who participated in last night's killings, but the fourth mafia has been laying low for quite a while. Anyways here I go.

Remaining Mafia!!!

Mr. Orange
Mr. Blond
Cottonmouth
?

Clazziquai was Mr. Brown
Ieatkids5 was Mr. White
Randombum was Eddie
Unforgiven_ve was Joe
LTT was Mr. Pink
BlindAlbino was Black Mamba
Mandalor was Snake Charmer
0cz3z was Copperhead
Bockit was California Mountain Snake
Queasy was Sidewinder
SoTT is currently presumed to be Mr. Black
Crazie-penguin was King Brown Snake
d.arkive was Taipan Snake
Evilmonkey was Mr. Red
L was Enigma
Suresh0t is presumed to be The Wolf

So this leaves only one remaining Mafia member… Mr. Blue!

Character Traits:

Mr. Orange
-mute/does not talk
-multiple instances of him involved with phones/lights/electrical equipment
-kill style varies, but multiple instances of him stabbing somebody

Mr. Blond
-displays incredible speed
-possible mirror theory (but I find that only really matches… for what maybe two? days?)
-not likely to be ninjas due to the lack of subtlety in more recent kills

Cottonmouth
-magic #15
-use of darts, nails, plumbatas?, knifes… almost anything that matches with the # 15
-has been known to dress somewhat irregular

Mr ? Blue ?
-multiple use of machines (chainsaws, car crushers, buzzsaws)
-extremely varied style of killing, bordering on psychotic, as well as downright ridiculous (he killed fusionsdf with an umbrella tip)
-if it was NOT Mr. Blue who appeared on Day 16’s killing then it is likely that Mr. Blue is dead and there are some serious flaws in the list. For now though I’m tentatively pinning Mr. Blue as the killer of rpf in Day 16, since we have yet to find a concrete suspect.

-The Mr. Black = SoTT situation. I’m basing this decision solely off the fact that Mr. Black reeked like hell, and Tunas have a particular odor to them. It’s a weak connection, but it’s all I’ve got working for me. If you guys can connect SoTT to someone else that’d be great. Obviously he was not Cottonmouth. Mr. Black has not made a direct appearance ONCE since SoTT’s lynching. By the same accord, neither has Mr. Blue, although it’s hard to tell who killed rpf on Day 16 (was it suresh0t?)
-If there are any mistakes (say for whatever reason Eddie reappears and starts gunning down people again), then this list will be reanalyzed and reevaluated.


I fear this list may be flawed, as the Mr. Blue connection is extremely weak, any help here is appreciated (even you qrs).
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 01 2008 06:25 GMT
#6392
Finally for now, I'm going to bring up a PM Alethios sent me shortly before he died. He and I had disagreements about who exactly were which mafia characters, but this is his list of remaining mafia targets:

Putting together everything I know, i've come up with a list for the remaining mafia. I'm going to have to ask you to trust me on this one actually.

#1 0cz3z
#2 suresh0t
#3 infundlibum
#4 BWdero
#5 Mr. Blond
#6 ???

4. HotZhot <- not 6
7. Dr.Dragoon
9. So no fek
10. Fen
22. infinity21 <- not 6
29. SiZ.FaNtAsY <- not 6
33. Amber[LighT]
37. fgsvsd
38. KF91
40. MasterOfChaos
47. Kuja900
64. KorvspaD
72. Ziel
74. Supah
76. jtan <- not 6
101. RowdierBob
106. BuGzlToOnl
113. DTDominion

2 are mafia.

obviously #1 and #2 came out dead on accurate, but I think we can all agree that the town had a general consensus about 0cz3z and suresh0t

Alethios believed Eddie to be Bockit, randombum to be Mr. Black, and that Cottonmouth Snake was still alive (hence infundlibum being next to the chopping block in his list). This would put SoTT as Mr. Blue... I think. He never directly said it, it has to be implied. The reason I'm bringing all this information up (and yes mafia Alethios did actually send me this pm before he died)? Because seriously we townies have very little going for us right now in the terms of detective work =/ Aside from qrs (who is dead set against me), Wysp (who spends most of his time arguing against qrs) and whoever is Wysp's associate(s). I don't really fear being lynched given as how I am probably the top target off the Showtime! List, and because... the mafia would be pretty friggin' retarded to lessen the Showtime! List lol.

Last note... the suspect from the Showtime! List is most likely to be on the Mandalor List as well, seeing as how there are only 5 people remaining and 4 of them are on the Mandalor List lol
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 02 2008 00:13 GMT
#6395
Obviously I can't unconvince you of your mistakes qrs, but please do take a second to analyze my information ok? I never said that BWdero was not mafia, I merely pointed out the fact that Chuiu is unlikely to use information that appears in multiple characters. You say there are no clues related to his name? How about just "Dero" then seeing as how BW can easily be interpreted as "Brood Wars"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dero

I poured over this content already and found nothing that could specifically tie Cottonmouth to BWdero. It should be noted in one post that Cottonmouth was dressed "shabbily"... another clue I see as baring no connection to BWdero. Regardless of this, I don't discount him given the plethora of circumstantial evidence mounted against him, I just feel there are stronger suspects at the moment... mainly Scorch as Mr. Blond (which once again no one has yet to comment on )
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 02 2008 12:40 GMT
#6408
No Scorch, I feel that you are the real Mr. Blonde! lol :[
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 03 2008 06:41 GMT
#6412
I'm still pretty active you know... Like probably 1/3 ~ 1/2 of all my posts are in this game

I dare the mafia to kill me lol
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 04 2008 00:44 GMT
#6428
Apology accepted faggot
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 04 2008 01:32 GMT
#6430
On July 04 2008 10:15 qrs wrote:
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On July 04 2008 09:44 nemY wrote:
Apology accepted faggot

we'll see.
and showtime, you're hardly one to talk. Go back to being dead.


I kind of doubt that, since I doubt I'll be lynched ;D
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 04 2008 09:12 GMT
#6434
My apologies for being a dick to you earlier qrs. Perhaps you can explain your reasoning to me and everyone else as to why you are so sure I'm Mr. Blonde. I'd really like to get this settled once and for all. I'll try to address all your points for me being Mr. Blonde (and I'll try as much as possible not to antagonize you in the process)

from page 317
On June 26 2008 23:48 qrs wrote:

In terms of actual clues, the main piece of evidence is Camlito's connection of Mr. Blonde to a mirror (link). Not all of it was compelling, but I found this one pretty convincing:
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Camlito wrote:
Clue 5: Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.

Ok this one is too obvious, they are mirroring each others' movements and style as if it's planned out.
Specifically, Cottonmouth has been the only one killing with 15 weapons a night--until Mr. Blonde shows up with him.



-While from an initial look through it, it does look suspicious given the mirror theory, but really look at it... Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth kill their targets with 15 knives a piece, but place them in different places in their targets (Cottonmouth carves a Pentagram into his target... possible lead there eh? dunno who though). Mr. Blonde simply follows a set pattern.

-Mr. Blonde charges through the convenience store door smashing it and the surrounding windows. I'm assuming it's a glass door he charged through it, smashed it, and well it's a convenience store right? I don't see how or where that connects anywhere to my profile

To that, I'll add a weaker clue: Mr. Blonde's whole "out of nowhere" theme that some were connecting with Ninja early on may connect with nemY's profile quote ("~But I don't know where you are now~").


-I don't buy this as a clue for two reasons. One, the connection with the actual statement is sorely misaligned. I forget the term for this, but the connection is surely out of line. "But I don't know where you are now" != "out of nowhere" does it?
-second of all... that quote wasn't in my profile when the game originally started. Read araav's post on page 20 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=20 and you'll see quite plainly that the quote was not there. Would Chuiu start adding information about mafia depending on how they edit their profile as the game goes on? Debatable, I don't really know, but it doesn't matter since the first set of mafia kills were on page 18, where Mr. Blonde makes an appearance... coming out of nowhere! Unless you find something that really links my profile quote with Mr. Blonde's theme I would disregard it.


Circumstantial evidence: Camlito was killed soon after he presented his nemY theory. We know that the Mafia likes to kill the good clue-analysts (for good reason). Was Camlito getting too close to the truth?


Circumstantial is the key here. People have fingered me as mafia and ended up dying shortly there after (Camlito did, Alethios did... although he was joking I know that), people have fingered me as mafia and ended up not dying shortly thereafter, but nonetheless are dead now (Plexa, MTF, a few others I'm sure), people have fingered me as mafia and are still alive today (you (qrs), jtan, BuGz if you want to count him I guess), and many now confirmed mafia have fingered me as mafia (clazz, randombum, suresh0t... I suppose you could count L voting for me as pointing me out, but I don't really buy it). You're stubbornness here appears to be making you miss the bigger picture.

And finally, this wouldn't hold up in a court of law, but I just find nemY's posts suspicious. I know that he and suresh0t were at each other's throats near the end, but IMO that was just a desperate Mafia ploy. Split the camps, like Jacob in the Bible: And it shall be that if the townies fall upon one mafioso and smite him that the other mafioso shall be for a remnant.


-Like I've said before, the same thing applies to you. Hell people have been suspecting you via your posting for who knows how long. Most people's posting at this point seems somewhat suspicious and having a double meaning at this point =/. You claim that suresh0t and I were doing some sort of desperate mafia ploy, but I've known suresh0t was mafia for a long time now (I voted for him on days 9 and 10... you should know this given that you voted for him too on day 10). Wanna know why I voted for suresh0t and clazz back then? Read about it on page 267. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=267 Like you know, it's been frustrating to get support to lynch suresh0t... but once I was able to I PUSHED FOR IT LIKE A MOFO

On June 29 2008 10:55 qrs wrote:
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On June 28 2008 17:25 nemY wrote:
Expect a post from qrs soon about how ShaLLoW[baY]'s death is a mirror reversal of Bockit's lynching.
I feel so...predictable.

edit: just because nemY points it out doesn't mean it isn't true. It is a mirror kill. Think about that.


Once again this falls under the same thing as the Mr. Blonde / Cottonmouth killing. The general conclusion would be that this is another mirror killing, but really look at the details.

In the dark shed in ShaLLoW[baY]'s backyard Mr. Blonde gleefully waiting in silence clutching his weapon


-nothing of glee, hope, happiness, even smiling can be connected to my profile

Mr. Blonde swatting ShaLLoW[baY] with the front end of the yard tool causing him to stumble backward into a trap Mr. Blonde had set of several nails on the ground. Having punctured his foot on a rather rusty one ShaLLoW[baY] began hopping frantically trying to pry the devil from his foot as he screamed in pain


-I don't recall any of this happening in the lynch/raping of Bockit

Mr. Blonde used this opportunity to maneuver himself behind his victim and he killed ShaLLoW[baY] in one swift vengeful blow by shoving the rake up his ass.


-every townie raped Bockit with the rake, hence multiple... rapings lol; there is only one rape here, and it's the true Mr. Blonde (HotZhot) raping ShaLLoW[baY]

One more thing to consider, I don't see how Days 1, 2, 5, 7, 13, 15, and 16 connect with the whole mirror theory. I think I may have mentioned Day 13 as possibly being connected, but even that connection seems weak.

Wow sorry I was going to keep going, but I'ma sleep for now. I'll continue this later.

One final thing to consider...

On May 08 2008 04:40 HotZhot wrote:
That mr.blonde sure is one though individual, just won't die. Come on Ace, Plexa who to vote for? stupid finals



On June 01 2008 04:45 HotZhot wrote:
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On June 01 2008 04:42 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Now that the mayor is dead can we elect a new one or do we live without mayor? :p


the pardoner functions like one and we are gonna depend on him now, btw how come mr blonde is still alive? i've been saying the past 11 days or so
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