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On April 11 2008 04:05 MTF wrote:So after a few hours of off and on searching through every profile twice, I've come up with depressingly few links. Lysithea: Possibly Mr. Pink - Signature quote is from Ali, boxer and certainly able fighter. - [color=red]Doesn't fit with the quiet clue, however.[/color] JimTudor: Possibly Mr. Blonde - Name is linked to a hockey player.I guess I'll be voting to lynch L and useless.
Im pretty sure useless is innocent
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On April 11 2008 04:27 Ace wrote:
If you haven't realized by now I am holding all the cards - the whole point of me not telling you guys certain info publicly is so that Mafia don't know who was really revealed innocent (thereby wasting killing power).
Everyone that was in communication knew I thought Ghar was innocent. I only listed him as suspect #2 so people could THINK I thought he was mafia.
Just because I don't tell YOU anything it doesn't mean I don't know whats going on.
I let the town do as they please after the wurm incident because of people like you, constant bitching. Even when townies act stupid and we give good reason to lynch them there's always an asshat like you complaining. I had nothing to do with Trancestorm dying, I had nothing to do with the Vigis killing Chezinu, and I had no way of knowing we'd have a fake jack because if people are inactive I can't do shit about it.
And since dead people can't post, I'm forever voting qrs to be lycnhed in the hopes that he dies and shuts the fuck up.
atm, you are digging yourself a grave,
you arent doing anything good for the town,
Theres a problem with the information provided by your jack but you doesnt say his name
you manage to waste a lynch on a medic cuz he wasnt doing what u wanted
now u want to lynch qrs cuz he said u were bad for the town?
How good of a mayor do you think you are atm honestly?
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On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:[ + Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.
Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.
Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. - Recurring idea of being unable to call for help --- This could be a pivotal clue
I think what we are searching here is related to an animal.
Here are my first suspect
-Evilmonkey
-Decafchicken
The most obvious atm is evilmonkey since he's on both list having 1 mafioso but i would not jump to the conclusion that he's one.
I put in Bold the important words
Once again I could be wrong its just my interpretation of the clues
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On April 11 2008 05:27 L wrote:Well, the rest of the town won't really listen to me sticking up for myself, but here's a brief overview: Heroes cannot add properly. The 12 clue would be a pretty solid find, I suppose, but sadly it doesn't exist. None of the number combinations add to 12 unless you make a mistake. If our jack comes back and you want to waste one of his dt turns, feel free to ask him if the knives/number/cottonmouth in general is related to me. And knifes, throwing, and nails have nothing to do with me. Blades, sharp objects, throwing can all be linked to a variety of people, and yet not to me. Even the cottonmouth moniker is geographically distinct from me. Show nested quote +Agkistrodon piscivorus is a venomous pitviper species found in the eastern United States. Sidewinder is a snake which inhabits the US. Queasy was from the US. Are snakes geographically sensitive? Taipan snake says no, Queasy says yes. Maybe not all snakes are geographically sensitive, but if cottonmouth is, it can't be me. Taipan snake's 'clue' seems more to be this: Show nested quote +A taipan is a large, fast, highly venomous Australian snake. One species, the inland taipan, has the most toxic venom of any land species worldwide, although it is not the most deadly. . Basically its a hint that he's the most 'deadly' of the mafia, being a suicide bomber and all. In that respect, snakes could hold clues, but morphologic clues as well as geographic clues. Either way, cottonmouth doesn't fit me. I'm so certain of this that I'll link you to both cottonmouth pages on wikipedia so that you can see for yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix_mokasen PS. I'm sorry I actually did work and found clues on Ghar while 3/4ths of the town was deadset convinced he was a mafia member. I guess activity is bad news when you try and make it productive.
hum tell me how does it not make 12 in both cases
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On April 11 2008 05:33 L wrote:
Just a note: I thought heroes did the counting, he didn't. Was plexa.
And are you suggesting that a monkey or chicken would cut phone wires?
Plexa did count correctly
in the first case we have 2 + 4 + 3 + 3 = 12
in the second case we have 5 + 6 + 1 = 12
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On April 11 2008 05:37 L wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 00:44 LTT wrote:I think there might be a problem with the 12 idea. We only have 2 occurances and the first one was miscounted. There are a total of 15 knives on Day 2. Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. 2 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 15 There were 3 knives in EACH of his legs, for a total of 6 knives in his legs.
read what i answered to that and heres ur explanation
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On April 11 2008 05:39 L wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 01:01 LTT wrote:On April 11 2008 00:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote:On April 11 2008 00:44 LTT wrote:I think there might be a problem with the 12 idea. We only have 2 occurances and the first one was miscounted. There are a total of 15 knives on Day 2. Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. 2 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 15 There were 3 knives in EACH of his legs, for a total of 6 knives in his legs. But thats not the point , what you have to count is all the numbers written 2+4+3+3 = 12 If that is the case, then Day 4 doesn't add up to 12. Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Adding all the nails, you get 5 + 1 + 6 + 3 + 1 = 16 Adding just the numbers, you get 5 + 6 + 3 = 14 I'm starting to think 12 is really a stretch. You never disproved this :/. Honestly, you forget to count the second group of 3 knives in the legs, and your workaround makes 12 dissapear from the other post.
Ok Ill explain it one last time
First case : two knives + four more knived + three knives into each of his legs + three in his back. =12
We doesnt care about the 3 in each the important thing in this senario is the number
Second case : five nails + a (one) nail + six more nails =12
the was about to throw another nail is like the 3 in each legs from senario one its just to make this clue harder to find.
Hope you have a good defense against that mister L
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On April 11 2008 05:48 L wrote: The number you skipped is staring you in the face. If you add the a nail being one, now the number is 15.
HE DODGED the 3 nails once again. same explanation as other number refused in the count
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On April 11 2008 05:55 useLess wrote:
Seriously, getting all 4 medics in 5 days cant be luck or chance.
u probably mean detective
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On April 11 2008 09:22 fusionsdf wrote:
L is the 12th letter
its a stupid clue to follow anyways, cause you might as well just suspect wizard, since he is 12th in the player list.
If L is mafia how do fuck do you make clues towards him then?
No quote, name mean nothing
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On April 11 2008 09:40 L wrote:Show nested quote +If L is mafia how do fuck do you make clues towards him then?
No quote, name mean nothing Posting behavior, blog posts, name, anything's up for grabs. Additionally, chuiu uses wikipedia for quite a few of his clues, so looking at the history of the letter L in wikipedia shows Show nested quote +The letter L is derived ultimately from the Semitic crook or goad which stood for /l/. This originally may have been based on an Egyptian hieroglyph that was adapted by Semites for alphabetic purposes. The Greek letter Lambda Λ (upper case) or λ (lower case), as well as the equivalent Etruscan and Latin letters, represent the same sound as the Semitic letter. In reference, it is spelled el or ell. Crook, Lambda, excessive el, or ell sounds would all point to me. From Crook you can go to shepards/crime. From lambda you can go to wavelength or something similar. You could also use when I joined, where i live, etc. We've already been over those, Cottonmouth doesn't connect to me on any ground besides some made up number game. Again, i'll flat out ask that the jack check me. If you really think i'm mafia, that's cool. I'd just rather not have the town go and lynch another innocent member because you're trying your best to 'spice things up', as you put it. Edit: Shallow looks innocent now  .
By the way just for your information, Plexa asked us (townie) to find something with the number 12 + plexa is 2/2 @ finding mafia atm, I just did what plexa wanted us , feel free to call me retard again I dont really care but its not helping ur case. Im not trying to lynch innocent townie nor trying to spice things up, I dont thing the town can waste another lynch
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On April 11 2008 10:01 qrs wrote:After thinking over the evidence, I'm going to vote for suresh0t. I think he's the Wolf. Here are my reasons: 1) We don't know a whole lot about the Wolf, but one thing seems to be clear: he hits his targets (sure shot). Of course the most blatant example of that is: Show nested quote +The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. That's the only one I would regard as a strong clue, but looking at the other times we've met the Wolf, they check out as well: Show nested quote +The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. Show nested quote +He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. Nothing around, Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull. note: King Brown Snake gets in Chuiu's way, but the attack is from the Wolf Neither Chuiu nor Caller can dodge the Wolf's attack. (The other mafia missed plenty, and sometimes the victims survive for a while.) As I said, though, it's the first quote which really stands out. A nail thrown down the hall, killing instantly? I mean, come on, if that's not a sure shot, than nothing is. 2) His posts? Pretty bland. His votes: goes with the bandwagon or abstains. Not proof of anything on its own, but certainly what I would consider consistent with a mafioso trying to lie low. 3) For what it's worth, he's on the Mandalor list. 4) This is the clincher. We've all been wondering about those nails, right? Check out what suresh0t is holding in his profile pic: That's right. A hammer.
Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird.
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On April 11 2008 10:20 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 10:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird. Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that.
I have no problem with lynching Suresh0t instead of L for this day, but we can't let this clue go even if theres poeple who doesnt agree with it + he's on the list of potential mafia (10/37)
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On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote:^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there. Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote:On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:
I'd like to emphasize this once more:
We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf
are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.
At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!
My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
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We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance.
As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless". Ok 3rd time i will post this. Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at. See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD! I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at. (original post)It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.) I'll cast my second vote for fusion.
They were from New104 who turned out to be a DT , lets hope ace told us the truth
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On April 11 2008 11:20 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me and chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie
is mafia Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information.
True and you (fusion) really likes number (%)
Here's mine for you you have 1/2 chances of being a mafioso which mean 50% which is better than any % you have found yet
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We should not waste a lynch on fusionsdf atm
Reason: theres no clue towards him, and both useless and azn seems to be regular townie
I would pay more attention the Alventine,Imderek, and evilmonkey(my pick)
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Eddie is LostYourSkills , its pretty obvious
Luck is mentionned in the first day or so and then its becoming an habit
Also : the player that I'm trying to fit to a caractere atm is artanis[xp] pretty sure he's mafia
Reason : he got roleblocked? wtf? why him he doesnt even post? + his name (artanis) could possibly be linked to a mafioso
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I dunno but it could be done now since its pretty obvious who will be lynched
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On April 11 2008 22:13 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 22:09 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
nice nice, the game is alive again! nice analysis by plexa...sorry for not posting much but i've been very busy whit RL stuff, but im always checking the thread and reading the las 2-3 pages. i dont know if you rolechecked ninja...but he's still my 1st suspect :p Considering how much work ive put into finding california mountain snake, i've come up with shit all... all i found besides ninja4ever was infundibilum who has a hat and a spinny thing (which was used to cut off the head of someone), but he seems scandinavian, and california mountain snake bowed. So our best bet is ninja4ever. (How ever obvious that seems).
I just did a quick research and I remember having seen gent in a profile
I would put amber[light] as a suspect to california mountain snake before ninja4ever
Important words : bowed / peered
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