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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 23:52:13
March 19 2008 23:51 GMT
#1147
Yeah, hence why I said it was probably a stupid question. On the off chance that Jacks do get extra role checks however...well then asking this is way worth it ^_^
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 23:57:19
March 19 2008 23:56 GMT
#1151
I'm not saying that the Jacks should use a role check on the mayor, that's the detective's job. However knowing that we have extra role checks (even if they're limited to only 2 as well) is always good, so that we don't have to rely on the detectives for everything later in the game.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 00:08:01
March 20 2008 00:07 GMT
#1156
On March 20 2008 09:04 Caller wrote:
I have a concern with Ace's plan:

suppose that the mayor is townie and all the bodyguards get the right messages

then suppose that a mafia false claims that hes a bodyguard.

that means we'll end up killing several bodyguards and potentially the mayor for a mafiaso. not a good trade.
The detective's supposed to investigate the mayor (if I understand correctly) and the detective will announce if they find the mayor to be mafia. At which point we lynch the detective first. If he turns blue, then we go after the mayor next.

A detective for a mafia sounds like a bad trade, but it's the best we can get if it turns out we voted a mafia in.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 01:46 GMT
#1183
On March 20 2008 10:39 fusionsdf wrote:
any smart mafia will role claim towny

also:

Paramedics: Dont protect Empyrean. The reason should be obvious.
On the off chance that it isn't obvious enough. They'll probably sacrifice their suicide bomber to take out Empyrean+a couple of medics. Assuming that Empyrean really is a detective.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 03:07 GMT
#1218
Whoa, randombum was 3 votes away from mayor...people got a bit carried away there.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 03:21 GMT
#1226
On March 20 2008 12:20 randombum wrote:
Not me of course right? You mean a random townie, not the guy with random in his name correct?
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 04:12 GMT
#1247
On March 20 2008 13:08 Ace wrote:
I just walked in the house guys, give me a sec
Yay! Rejoice!
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 04:45:14
March 20 2008 04:44 GMT
#1303
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 04:52:19
March 20 2008 04:51 GMT
#1326
On March 20 2008 13:49 Showtime! wrote:
I'm not announcing it public. The fact of the matter is you could have killed 3 for the price of one if incontrol was even playing. We need another mad hatter.
I'm just gonna point out that's really suspicious. As has already been noted, it's doubtful that you have some inside information due to a role you might have seeing how noone's been able to use their roles yet, so the fact that you're witholding information shows that you have something to hide


>.>

<.<


Edit: Saying that the mafia is posting privately is a crappy excuse. The mafia posts privately because it helps keep their identities unknown. Townies rely purely on discussion and information...which you seem to be withholding.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 04:57 GMT
#1341
On March 20 2008 13:55 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 13:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 20 2008 13:46 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
On March 20 2008 13:45 Showtime! wrote:
Not only that he didn't even look to see who !@#$%! voted beforehand. He killed someone who wasn't even still in the game = uncool especially with all the damage he could have done.

Wait. Who do you propose he should have used the instant lynch on, if at all? I wanna hear your side.


I think Showtime! has made a few dodgy posts, this isn't a flat out accusation but I'm watching him carefully. There are also a few more that I'm being wary of.


More like he's pulling shit out of his ass.
lol yeah. Right now I'm getting the impression that showtime is either

A) Mafia
B) Really doesn't know anything, but wants people to believe he's clever.
C) Really really stubborn.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 05:06 GMT
#1353
On March 20 2008 14:05 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 14:01 Showtime! wrote:
I'm...drunk.

I think we have the explanation, guys. Nothing more to talk about.
Agreed, put into context all of his ramblings make sense now.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 05:41 GMT
#1396
On March 20 2008 14:39 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote:
No, I'm third generation.

No relation to the Black Donnelly's.

First of all, get your facts straight: I'm the Town Drunk. I should be able to toss beer bottles at people or have the option of slipping a roofie into someone's drink rendering them useless for one night. That would be a cool role.


Or how about this? You smash a couple bottles of beer on yourself and I toss you a lit match. I think that's a much more sound solution.
Beer doesn't actually have a high enough alcohol content to light someone on fire, but I get what you're getting at.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 06:11 GMT
#1422
On March 20 2008 15:00 rpf wrote:
What do you guys mean when you say you're going to "lynch a lurker"? I didn't play last round so I'm a little lost. T_T
They mean they're planning on lynching someone who votes (so they don't get kicked from the game) but doesn't contribute anything discussion wise into this thread.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 06:17 GMT
#1428
On March 20 2008 15:17 rpf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 15:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:
Ah, that makes sense.

So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over?


I believe a lot of us have already discussed this already. Having a mafia mayor can still benefit the town to a certain extent.

I haven't played before, and I'm sure as fuck not reading 72 pages of this thread to figure it out.
Then look at my blog!!!


/more shameless self promotion
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 16:59 GMT
#1510
On March 21 2008 00:39 Lysithea wrote:
Oh I forgot to ask, have someone googled/wikied about persons profiles etc and compiled it in a neat file or something? Just wondering cause I know I'll be too lazy to do it but it would become very handy later on.

On second thought, if someone has, they're probably waiting for Ace to be cleared towny to then funnel the information through him to avoid being killed.

For now, nevermind me.
Yeah, Araav did it. It should be in my blog, the first link in the "Lists" section.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 17:11:08
March 20 2008 17:00 GMT
#1511
Also if anyone wants to check out the clue interpretations/suspicions that have already been posted, I got them right here

Edit: fixed broken links

Sonuvbob's list of people he thinks are mafia+his reasoning
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=57#1132
Shallow[bay]'s list of all the people that the code names can relate to
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=31#602
Reason people think Ghar could be mafia.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=20#391
IMO some pretty good interpretations by xDark.Carnivalx
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=23#456
More interpretations of what the code names could mean by Meta.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=20#392
Clues from ShadowDrgn, these deal more with the dialog/action of the day post rather than the code names.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=48#958
Sureshot posting some of his thoughts in a blog
http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68254
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 17:10 GMT
#1513
Oh lol, yeah that'd take alot of work...

araav? You got any special program that might be able to do that? ^_^
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 18:15 GMT
#1524
So if we're just plain green townies you still want us to confirm with you?
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 18:56 GMT
#1551
On March 21 2008 03:49 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 03:42 qrs wrote:


IOW, let's just save some time and agree that no PM = claim to be a towny.


this idea makes no sense. No PM also means Mafia members just never have to worry about contacting me, and then they also know that not every townie has PM'd me so it's easier for them to just lay low and not get caught lying.

If everyone has to PM me, eventually I'll catch some role clashes and some lies.


I have to agree. Even though it's doubtful that the mafia could screw up something so simple, there's still the small chance they'll screw up and we'll be able to weed them out. A small chance of catching mafia is better than no chance.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 19:23 GMT
#1558
On March 21 2008 04:15 Lysithea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 04:09 Ace wrote:
I don't think you get it:

If everyone sent me a PM saying their townie - GREAT.

Now when all the blues PM me I know they all match up and are 100% confirmed.

So now I knock 34 names off the suspect list, incorporate them into the network and all suspects are also on the "vanilla townie" list.

A PM that tells me "hi I'm townie" holds a lot of weight.



That assumes no inactivees tho doesnt it? Say for example that mafia takes a chance on a blue role that happens to be inactive, before the 3day rule sets in they could've gotten alot of information. Also, that all people actually pm you... which I doubt will happen just because of lack of interest following this thread thoroughly. The only sure way to have the secure group... secure... is to systematically confirm their roles through various means... no?

Or am I totally misunderstanding something here?
That is possible, but considering the amount of risk in trying to guess a role that happens to be inactive is too great it seems doubtful that they'd try it.

Then again the amount of information they could get by getting into this network is probably worth more than one mafia's life so...ok I'm not really sure how to feel about this right now.
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