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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
 And I'm sorry, I missed the proof (or even conjecture, unless you count the accusation that somehow me being staffed mid-game made me the only person possible to have found that list) that I was mafia. And I'm pretty sure my voting pattern matches that of any of the inactive townies/veterans. I implied to Ace in my original role-revealing pm that I was kind of disappointed in my role and couldn't see myself being of much help, and after finding out that I couldn't do anything to influence the game anyway I kind of became disheartened (explaining my no votes as I cbb keeping up with the thread). It's actually a shock to see randombum turn up red, I hadn't picked up anything like that from what I had read of his posts in the thread. Yes I voted for randombum, I think I was one of the first few? I think we should be looking at the back of the randombum voting train that has people that we are sure are mafia (And on the mandalor list, which is what, 50% chance of mafia hits atm?) before we start hitting out at random townies (And vets it seems..). | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
As for L.. that's a fair call. Looking back at that time On May 27 2008 09:06 L wrote: Because I dont' want anyone thinking that mafia cheated this game. We've had the entire irc hacker incident, multiple instances of townies pming info around after being dead. Mafia's tried its best to keep playing by the rules, and I don't want anyone thinking we've bent the rules and broken into PMs or cheated to find the list. Mandalor was searching for threads with his name in it, and he got the entire list. The IRC incident was another fluke that we'll explain after the game. There's a few other things, but when we write up what happened on our side you'll see what i'm talking about. None of the living members can up and reveal themselves to explain that we aren't cheating, so that forces one of the dead ones to act as a representative. It looks like he was doing it out of a sense of honour. I dunno.. I can't explain that and I guess that puts me in a 'bad light' but looking at the list Ace posted (through unsoundlogic it seems) I'm not even confirmed mafia, can we at least kill confirmed before we hit up suspected? If clues come up strongly linking me to mafia then sure, kill me, as I know this isn't possible I'm happy to make that call as I know it's not gonna happen. | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On June 04 2008 07:00 unsoundlogic wrote: Oh shit actually i did get answers _____ 1. Town people not on the list were those who did not send their role into Ace at the start of the game. We can however deduce, as all blues are accounted for, that those not on the lists are either Mafia or Town. 2. Everyone on the list of mafia are confirmed mafia. In the case of Jtan/Nemy, there is a contradiction between the two players and therefore one is mafia and the other is innocent. Masterofchaos: __________ 3. All "confirmed" roles are roles confirmed by detective lists, numbers tallying, etc. If they have a # by their name, they are that role. Who's telling you this? Someone who is dead already? | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On June 04 2008 23:13 Bockit wrote: I'm not even confirmed mafia, can we at least kill confirmed before we hit up suspected? lol confirmed = dead  | ||
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unsoundlogic
United States391 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On June 04 2008 07:00 unsoundlogic wrote: 2. Everyone on the list of mafia are confirmed mafia. In the case of Jtan/Nemy, there is a contradiction between the two players and therefore one is mafia and the other is innocent. Then you'd better lynch me first, because I'm "confirmed mafia" and I'm a townie; It'll show you how unreliable that fucking list is. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
pd: thanks! | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On May 16 2008 10:34 clazziquai wrote: Let's lynch nemY I'm 9000% sure he is mafia | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
I checked his posting history in this thread and it shouldn't be too hard to show as he consistantly have been active in suspecting and trashtalking people who later turns out to be innocent and also defending a few now confirmed mafias. There are also clues towards him. And also I don't see how he managed to escape the ulzz/nightmare/nemY thing, ulzz got lynched turned innocent and then the thing was dropped. The thing with nemY and clazziquai is interesting though. nemY started to make strong suggestions to lynching clazz, but only after clazz was pretty much confirmed mafia, so this has to be a smart play to try and clear nemY's name. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
And when bockit turns red it clears infundibulum as CMS which makes it even liklier that nemY is the mafia on the showtime list | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
-Can we trust unsoundlogic's list of potential mafia targets? Obviously a 50/50 chance of hitting a mafia target sounds good, plus you'd eliminate the Showtime! list if I did indeed flip red. Sure Bockit and even 0cz3z make sense, they've been legit suspects; hell i'll go as far to say as myself and jtan have been/are suspects, but [b]ShaLLoW[baY]? That's way out of left field to me. The source is pretty accurate on much of the information, but who exactly is the source? And how can they predict mafia down to the 17th mafia? -It really makes no sense in trying to lynch anybody from the Showtime! list at this point considering the two possibilties 1) You hit mafia, kill a mafia and we're down to 6 remaining! Alright way to go town! Unfortunately you've also sentenced 7 other town members to their graves as they'd make perfect mafia fodder and 6 of them are (I've seen all of them but CDRdude post recently) fairly active townies. 2) You hit townie (me I'm assuming). Congrats you have narrowed the list down to 1/7 and wasted a lynch. Good job! I question whether or not jtan is a townie or mafia, but really can't reach any conclusion about it. For starters I question the list, and want to know what [i]exactly]/i] it is that has ppl strung up on whether or not myself or jtan is mafia. Regardless I ask myself what would I do if I was a townie/mafia and it came up to being a ME vs X situation. If I was a townie would I try really hard to vindicate myself? Yeah probably, but I haven't really been doing that. I've been trying to clarify the list itself, because really... it doesn't contain a whole lot of new information and is presented in a somewhat confusing manner. I guess that's the other thing a townie could do in a "ME vs X" situation. I suppose there are more alternatives like "ignore it all together", or "dismiss it as BS"... I dunno. If I were mafia I think my only real option is to try to clear my name and buy myself some more time to do some more killings and make the town waste a lynch. I suppose I could also call the list crap, but I don't think I'd try to refine and clarify the list. That would be helping the town rather than trying to get in the way of it. Of course people can argue that I had this planned out from the start and this is all some clever guise I'm doing, but w/e... guess I just wasted these past 45 minutes typing this shit up lol | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
(aside from him being on the Mandalor List) | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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