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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-04 11:15:00
June 04 2008 11:02 GMT
#6001
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
June 04 2008 13:47 GMT
#6002
Video no longer available?

And I'm sorry, I missed the proof (or even conjecture, unless you count the accusation that somehow me being staffed mid-game made me the only person possible to have found that list) that I was mafia. And I'm pretty sure my voting pattern matches that of any of the inactive townies/veterans. I implied to Ace in my original role-revealing pm that I was kind of disappointed in my role and couldn't see myself being of much help, and after finding out that I couldn't do anything to influence the game anyway I kind of became disheartened (explaining my no votes as I cbb keeping up with the thread).

It's actually a shock to see randombum turn up red, I hadn't picked up anything like that from what I had read of his posts in the thread. Yes I voted for randombum, I think I was one of the first few? I think we should be looking at the back of the randombum voting train that has people that we are sure are mafia (And on the mandalor list, which is what, 50% chance of mafia hits atm?) before we start hitting out at random townies (And vets it seems..).
Their are four errors in this sentance.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
June 04 2008 14:00 GMT
#6003
The conjecture is that the spinning disc in your profile is California Mountain Snake's metal disc. Also, it's a little suspicious that L came back from the grave to defend you when you were accused of finding the list.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
June 04 2008 14:13 GMT
#6004
Oh I thought people dismissed the spinning disc a while back. Again, I don't really see the strength connection and iirc others felt the same way.

As for L.. that's a fair call. Looking back at that time

On May 27 2008 09:06 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
just why would you reveal that info right now?
Because I dont' want anyone thinking that mafia cheated this game. We've had the entire irc hacker incident, multiple instances of townies pming info around after being dead. Mafia's tried its best to keep playing by the rules, and I don't want anyone thinking we've bent the rules and broken into PMs or cheated to find the list.

Mandalor was searching for threads with his name in it, and he got the entire list. The IRC incident was another fluke that we'll explain after the game. There's a few other things, but when we write up what happened on our side you'll see what i'm talking about.

Show nested quote +
Besides, L basically revealed it already (posting while dead, I might add, but whatever.)


None of the living members can up and reveal themselves to explain that we aren't cheating, so that forces one of the dead ones to act as a representative.


It looks like he was doing it out of a sense of honour. I dunno.. I can't explain that and I guess that puts me in a 'bad light' but looking at the list Ace posted (through unsoundlogic it seems) I'm not even confirmed mafia, can we at least kill confirmed before we hit up suspected? If clues come up strongly linking me to mafia then sure, kill me, as I know this isn't possible I'm happy to make that call as I know it's not gonna happen.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 04 2008 14:36 GMT
#6005
On June 04 2008 07:00 unsoundlogic wrote:
Oh shit actually i did get answers

_____
1. Town people not on the list were those who did not send their role into Ace at the start of the game. We can however deduce, as all blues are accounted for, that those not on the lists are either Mafia or Town.

2. Everyone on the list of mafia are confirmed mafia. In the case of Jtan/Nemy, there is a contradiction between the two players and therefore one is mafia and the other is innocent.

Masterofchaos:
__________
3. All "confirmed" roles are roles confirmed by detective lists, numbers tallying, etc. If they have a # by their name, they are that role.



Who's telling you this? Someone who is dead already?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
June 04 2008 15:13 GMT
#6006
On June 04 2008 23:13 Bockit wrote: I'm not even confirmed mafia, can we at least kill confirmed before we hit up suspected?


lol
confirmed = dead
unsoundlogic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States391 Posts
June 04 2008 21:19 GMT
#6007
Nah still alive.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 05 2008 02:01 GMT
#6008
I don't really have an argument as to why I shouldn't be suspected, but I'm not Mafia. I don't even understand why I'm being suspected to be honest, and I don't know why I'm Mafia on unsoundlogic's list. If there are clues that you think point to me, please tell me, but I'm 100% innocent.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 05 2008 02:02 GMT
#6009

On June 04 2008 07:00 unsoundlogic wrote:

2. Everyone on the list of mafia are confirmed mafia. In the case of Jtan/Nemy, there is a contradiction between the two players and therefore one is mafia and the other is innocent.


Then you'd better lynch me first, because I'm "confirmed mafia" and I'm a townie; It'll show you how unreliable that fucking list is.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 05 2008 02:02 GMT
#6010
And yes Alethios, it is a vicious rake fucking which would lead to their death.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
June 05 2008 02:53 GMT
#6011
After bockit is lynched, i can see that infundibulum is cleared of suspicon, and form the showtime list, Nemy most definetively will turn mafia, if so, Jtan is confirmed townie
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 05 2008 03:07 GMT
#6012
You're either a dumbass, or mafia yourself. Regardless... happy birthday tommorow!
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
June 05 2008 03:14 GMT
#6013
yay
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
June 05 2008 03:17 GMT
#6014
haha. There is still one mafia from the showtime list, and the top suspects were you me and infundibulum. I was tied to mr pink; you're now tied with mr blonde and infundibulum has ties with california mountain snake. If you can mention any clue worth tieing to any of such list, please post it

pd: thanks!
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 05 2008 05:41 GMT
#6015
Dispute this then.


On May 16 2008 10:34 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.


Let's lynch nemY I'm 9000% sure he is mafia




On May 25 2008 01:40 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2008 01:24 Camlito wrote:


Ok going through profiles, the only mirror i see is nemY


NEMY I KNEW IT

jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
June 05 2008 06:08 GMT
#6016
well assuming that list is correct, at least I am 100% sure nemY is mafia.

I checked his posting history in this thread and it shouldn't be too hard to show as he consistantly have been active in suspecting and trashtalking people who later turns out to be innocent and also defending a few now confirmed mafias. There are also clues towards him. And also I don't see how he managed to escape the ulzz/nightmare/nemY thing, ulzz got lynched turned innocent and then the thing was dropped.

The thing with nemY and clazziquai is interesting though. nemY started to make strong suggestions to lynching clazz, but only after clazz was pretty much confirmed mafia, so this has to be a smart play to try and clear nemY's name.
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
June 05 2008 07:29 GMT
#6017
but I still think we should go for bockit first, the metal disc clue is very strong, and according to ace he lied about being a vet.

And when bockit turns red it clears infundibulum as CMS which makes it even liklier that nemY is the mafia on the showtime list
Enter a Uh
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 05 2008 07:44 GMT
#6018
I've tried to come up with a way to argue everything against me, but there's no way to logically prove my innocence. A few things I'd like to mention...

-Can we trust unsoundlogic's list of potential mafia targets? Obviously a 50/50 chance of hitting a mafia target sounds good, plus you'd eliminate the Showtime! list if I did indeed flip red. Sure Bockit and even 0cz3z make sense, they've been legit suspects; hell i'll go as far to say as myself and jtan have been/are suspects, but [b]ShaLLoW[baY]? That's way out of left field to me. The source is pretty accurate on much of the information, but who exactly is the source? And how can they predict mafia down to the 17th mafia?

-It really makes no sense in trying to lynch anybody from the Showtime! list at this point considering the two possibilties
1) You hit mafia, kill a mafia and we're down to 6 remaining! Alright way to go town! Unfortunately you've also sentenced 7 other town members to their graves as they'd make perfect mafia fodder and 6 of them are (I've seen all of them but CDRdude post recently) fairly active townies.

2) You hit townie (me I'm assuming). Congrats you have narrowed the list down to 1/7 and wasted a lynch. Good job!

I question whether or not jtan is a townie or mafia, but really can't reach any conclusion about it. For starters I question the list, and want to know what [i]exactly]/i] it is that has ppl strung up on whether or not myself or jtan is mafia. Regardless I ask myself what would I do if I was a townie/mafia and it came up to being a ME vs X situation. If I was a townie would I try really hard to vindicate myself? Yeah probably, but I haven't really been doing that. I've been trying to clarify the list itself, because really... it doesn't contain a whole lot of new information and is presented in a somewhat confusing manner. I guess that's the other thing a townie could do in a "ME vs X" situation. I suppose there are more alternatives like "ignore it all together", or "dismiss it as BS"... I dunno. If I were mafia I think my only real option is to try to clear my name and buy myself some more time to do some more killings and make the town waste a lynch. I suppose I could also call the list crap, but I don't think I'd try to refine and clarify the list. That would be helping the town rather than trying to get in the way of it. Of course people can argue that I had this planned out from the start and this is all some clever guise I'm doing, but w/e... guess I just wasted these past 45 minutes typing this shit up lol


nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 05 2008 07:48 GMT
#6019
Regardless if we follow the list and lynch ShaLLoW[baY] and he does by some miracle turn red then please do lynch me, cuz I fail to see how that fucker connects with any of the remaining mafia suspects

(aside from him being on the Mandalor List)
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 05 2008 07:50 GMT
#6020
But seriously unsoundlogic tell me before you fucking die, what is it that makes me and jtan so eerily similar that your associate is not sure whether it's him or me as mafia? Lol
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