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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 19 2008 11:22 GMT
#4911
On April 19 2008 19:09 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2008 18:54 Scorch wrote:
On April 19 2008 18:16 MTF wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

8-CDRdude
19-ulszz
27-nemY(2)
34-RtS)Night[Mare(2)
48-qrs(2)
51-araav(2)
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2)
85-ahrara_(2)


One of those eight is mafia, and Ulszz/nemY are the only ones we have connected clues with.


I do have another suspect among these, RtS)Night[Mare.
On April 19 2008 02:55 Scorch wrote:
Not a supervillain, but my own take on Mr. Pink
+ Show Spoiler +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" (wisdom, cool-headed planning) commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia (unemotional remark). As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot (gruesome, macabre), the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

Suck my nuts
ok i'ove beem drinking; smoking
be back in a few days
fuck ywhy has been plexa been asking who's mafia? cuz ace gone? i said i was mad hater ir sine hit. seee you sunday or monday :D!

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head (same again). OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter (gained a "level-up" from Mynock's pain?). Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live (energy leeched out of him?).

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (Mr. Pink wants to beat him to death slowly for additional pain, instead of shooting him dead quickly. Mr.Brown obeys because Mr.Pink is considered wise and cold-minded.) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

From this, I extract two major themes: bloodlust/violence/sadism and thoughtfulness/wisdom/considerateness. Bind this to RtS)Night[Mare's profile text:
"Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable."
Nightmare gains wisdom/strength by pain (of his victims?). This fits perfectly with Mr.Pink's brutality and sadism, and it also explains Mr.Pink's smartness and good thinking. If you want to take the "supervillain or being with superhuman powers" route, a "Nightmare" or "Incubus" is also a demon, which drains energy from its victim and would probably be a strong fighter.


I'd say ulszz > NightMare > nemY.


Hmm.

But, of those three, only nemY is on the Mandalor list. This boosts his chance of being the Mafia among them greatly, as Mandalor list is 1/4 odds of hitting a Mafia, Showtime! list at 1/8. In other words, outside of the Showtime! list, Ulszz or Nightmare would have to be one of four Mafia left in seventy-seven people vs nemY being one of ten Mafia left in forty people.

Statistically alone, strength lies in nemY's case being Mafia, and I feel most strongly that his clues match up.

Er, nevermind. Nightmare is on the Mandalor list. That strengthens his case opposed to Ulszz for me, but of the two I still feel nemY is the prime choice.

nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 19 2008 11:36 GMT
#4914
MTF fuck you

i'ma be gone this weekend but if i die suspet bugzltonnlz and L w/e
i'm drunk
peace
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 20 2008 23:09 GMT
#4953
I'm going to stop trying to defend myself here and in any future rounds. I'll work on clue analysis instead, but first need to catchup on the game and its facts
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 22 2008 03:42 GMT
#5005
On April 22 2008 09:14 MTF wrote:
Mafia probably haven't sent in their kills yet.


Inactive mafia FTL?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 22 2008 03:57 GMT
#5007
#1 seems really gay

#2 seems unlikely, cuz uhh no offense but neither seemed that intelligent ;P

#3 is possible
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 23 2008 07:26 GMT
#5036
Ok, Copperhead's a nerd for sure. That should make some of this easier...
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 25 2008 01:33 GMT
#5085
Sweet
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 25 2008 06:51 GMT
#5094
This sucks. Ppl gonna try n lynch me =/
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 25 2008 07:50 GMT
#5101
This is all I got so far as possible suspects. Bare in mind, I tried to completely disregard everything MTF and Plexa have brought up as far as information/suspects, because I find it good to take a fresh look at things. That being said, I still have doubts for the one possible suspect, because there are a few things that don't quite fit.


Fanatacist as Joe
Pros
-has thumbs up pic in his profile
-From wiki:
Fanaticism is an emotion of being filled with excessive, uncritical zeal, particularly for an extreme religious or political cause, or with an obsessive enthusiasm for a pastime or hobby.
According to philosopher George Santayana, "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim"[1]; according to Winston Churchill, "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject". Very strict standards and little tolerance.

The difference between a fan and a fanatic is that while both have an overwhelming liking or interest in a given subject, behaviour of a fanatic will be viewed as violating prevailing social norms, while that of a fan will not violate those norms (although is usually considered unusual).[2]
A fanatic differs from a crank in that the latter term is typically associated with a position or opinion which is so far from the norm as to appear ludicrous and/or provably wrong, while the subject of the fanatic's obsession may well be "normal", with only the scale of involvement being abnormally disproportionate.

-Compare that to the things Joe says and does

"Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!"

"Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

-and

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind

Joe has been incredibly supportive of his cause (of course the mafia would be right?), but to the point where he is picking up the slack of his teammates to complete the missions.

Cons

-I could find nothing from his "Public Profile" that really ties him into the game
-He might already be cleared by "X" list... (damn near impossible to search for the lists etc... hopefully someone can help me out here)

Lynching Patterns
-Day 2 Mandalor
-Day 3 bumatlarge, Ghar (2)
-Day 4 Abstain
-Day 5 Missed Vote as evident by....
On April 12 2008 23:23 fanatacist wrote:
Oops.

-Day 6 No Vote
-Day 7 L, Ulszz (2)

-Conclusion

I can't really determine if he's a concrete suspect al la Plexa, MTF and the now deceased fusionsdf, but I still think it's good to throw something new out there. Criticisms are welcome.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 26 2008 15:51 GMT
#5130
According to fusion's Trancestorm list, unsoundlogic can't be mafia, because L is confirmed mafia and there's only one mafia noted in that list.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 26 2008 16:08 GMT
#5132
Can someone put up a list of dead mafia aliases or at least what we expect are the dead mafia aliases?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 27 2008 00:46 GMT
#5139
To be fair L put up a good fight.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 27 2008 10:51 GMT
#5160

Name has about zero links, you could stretch it something terrible and make the connection to enemY but cmon, thats just rediculous..


Actually that's what my name is ROFL
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 28 2008 23:16 GMT
#5171
I kinda wanna know who's dead.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 29 2008 19:34 GMT
#5193
no

do it now!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 30 2008 04:16 GMT
#5203
On April 30 2008 13:10 MTF wrote:
I don't really have time for clue analysis right now, but I'll update lists:

Lists:

Mandalor List: - 3 killed tonight.
+ Show Spoiler +

01-ShaLLoW[baY]
02-SoMuchBetter
03-Eti307
06-clazziquai
11-ieatkids5
17-randombum { Pardoner }
21-Alethios
27-nemY
28-ZBiR
31-Energies
34-RtS)Night[Mare
36-Unforgiven_ve
39-Romance_us
42-SonuvBob
43-NatsuTerran
48-qrs
50-Artanis[Xp]
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM
56-Camlito
58-Lysithea
59-fanatacist
60-SoleSteeler
67-0cz3c
71-GeneralStan
78-BWdero
82-Ninja4ever.
85-ahrara_
87-Pangolin
89-butidigress
91-Scorch
92-Jimtudor
97-suresh0t
103-SpiritoftheTuna


Total: 33 people, 9 Mafia.



Showtime! List: - 0 killed tonight.
+ Show Spoiler +


8-CDRdude
27-nemY(2)
34-RtS)Night[Mare(2)
48-qrs(2)
51-araav(2)
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2)
85-ahrara_(2)

Total: 7 people, 1 Mafia.



People Not On Mandalor List: - 2 killed tonight.
+ Show Spoiler +

HotZhot
Dr.Dragoon
CDRdude
So no fek
Fen
Wizard
imDerek
Puosu
infinity21
Alventenie
SiZ.Fantasy
Amber[Light]
Vharox
fgsvsd
KF91
MasterOfChaos
LTT
str
Kuja900
araav
More_Minerals
LostYourSkills
Heros)Pink
Korvspad
Bockit
Ziel
Hollander
Supah
jtan
Spoinka
DamageControl
omfghi2u2
RowdierBob
AmorVincitOmnia
Wysp
Bugzltoonl
DTDominion
rpf

Total: 38 people, 3 or 4 (depending on the Showtime! list results) mafia.



Don't understand why they didn't take all of their kills from the Non-Mandalor list - it makes no logical sense, but I'm not gonna complain.


They took two off Plexa's list of innocents

On April 25 2008 21:51 Plexa wrote:
i think i found something potentially game breaking o.O but we'll see how it goes...

but it does say that the following are innocent;
Pangolin
Naib
BWdero
SoleSteeler
Last Romantic
Ahrara
0cz7c
which has two suspects i was sure were mafia =/

nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 30 2008 04:23 GMT
#5204
Well, I don't think fanatacist is mafia anymore. Instead I'd rather go back to what Plexa said earlier about Joe and cars (can't find who it is now anymore xD).

This was something I sent to MTF and Plexa a few days ago in regards to possible suspects. Unfortunately neither appeared in last night's killings:

Here's a few people I'm looking at as possible suspects. Your thoughts/criticisms are appreciated. I'll publish it after the Night Post (provided I don't die... which I think is unlikely as long as my name is up as a possible suspect)

iNfuNdiBuLuM as King Mountain Snake

http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/3452.gif?1162781570

-His murder weapon? Look at the clues...

"The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake."

"As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead."

"Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in."

-notice his public profile, it simply says "Sup". That corresponds well to the initial time he spoke when he introduced himself.
-Unfortunately I find it hard to tie in his quote "Cheese in the grater is greater cheese." to anything mafia related. It's a play on words (forget the proper term) and initially made me suspect him as Mr.Blond ("Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock.") which leads me to my next suspect

Wysp as Mr. Blond

-It seems like Mr. Blond only really attacks/kills (with weapons) when his target attacks him or he flees

"He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot."

"Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks."

"They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground."

-compare this to Wysp's quote "an overdeveloped sense of self preservation"
-Unfortunately it's hard to tie Wysp in with his speed/quickness that he appears to display. Even if you take his name as "Wisp".. it's a stretch to relate to quickness. Safe to say though, ninja's don't generally use guns to dispose of their enemies.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 04 2008 07:26 GMT
#5268
wasn't ieatkids5 mafia last game?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 04 2008 07:47 GMT
#5270
oh :D this thread needs more activity!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 04 2008 22:52 GMT
#5280
On May 05 2008 00:21 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 16:47 nemY wrote:
oh :D this thread needs more activity!


you silly mafia!
chuiu got the list?...maybe inactivite from mafias is a elaborate plan to overpower the townies vote thanks to inactivite

nemY plz confirm this


I talked to the mafia and you know what they said?


+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2008 04:30 **********_ve wrote: I'm ghey and take it in the bootyhole.
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