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On May 20 2008 21:44 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
infundibulum HAS to be california mountain snake:
looking at today's clues, noticehow he uses a swinging (spinning?) metal object to slice hollander's head off. Now look at infundibulum's picture. It's a guy whose hat has an blades spinning around. It sounds to me that he could very probably take his hat off and let the blade slice hollander's head. (plus, it fits they are sharp).
ooo I like this post ^_^
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On May 24 2008 02:20 randombum wrote:
Also killing ace but not killing me would not prove me mafia. It would have if you did not mention it, but now that you have mafia might let me live just so the town wastes a lynch on me. Ace would die because he has all the information and can lead the town far better than I can.
If the game gets close Mafia can't afford to be that stupid. They surely WOULD kill you if you are innocent.
ie I'm dead and now the only thing stopping them from surely getting an extra kill in (day lynch) is an innocent pardoner who might see a bandwagon forming and pardon the person.
Mafia would kill you without a second thought. They wouldn't take the chance.
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0cz3c is the top suspect right now.
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I've been away throwing parties all weekend, I'm back for a few hours.
I'm declaring a DOUBLE LYNCH.
Townies, listen to me. You all know I'm 100% innocent and that I know what I'm doing. I've taken a back seat in the past few days because some of my associates had to do their job and get things done. However, follow my lead because what is about to happen will save all of our asses.
First of all, my last bodyguard will surely die tonight. It is no surprise that Mafia have been having 100% good hit rates TOO many times. This said, this is THE most important vote of the game.
First of all this is my LAST double lynch. Second of all, I was hit last night but survived. That means the already want me dead asap.
LTT and SpiritofTheTuna MUST be lynched today. BOTH of them.
I'm damn near 100% sure both of these guys will turn RED.
Secondly, if randombum pardons either one of them he is 100% mafia.
After today's lynches I will reveal one of my associates findings and put out the entire MAFIA LIST.
Townies -everyone must vote!
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*bump
Townies also take note, 6 out of 7 of the Vets are still alive and none of them except ONE have EVER told me they've been hit - he ended up dying.
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yes Amber 
Happy Birthday btw!
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Once the game is over what we know of will be revealed. I don't know exactly how the first leak happened, but Decaf made an innocent mistake that led us to think he was mafia.
However, we do know what happened the second time.
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cool. Good job town
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yep Plexa was looking for Mr.Pink all game and got his vengeance
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Pay Close Attention
Good job on supporting the vote yesterday Townies., and even you Mafia that jumped on the vote train.
I've only got a limited amount of time so I'm about to reveal the first half of a crucial set of information.
During the latter half of the game, the entire list of roles that I had written down got transmitted and posted on the site. It was hidden in some old threads from last year. It was virtually impossible for those posts to be found.
Well, remember we all thought it was odd that 4 blues died in one night and that barely any vets got hit? (small correction from the other night, 2 other vets both got hit once each).
To find that list, you would have had to search through someone's post history or get really,really lucky. We doubt anyone had that much luck because the blues that got hit were all a mix of something: quiet, random, vocal, even some suspected publicly.
That said, this leads me to believe that Bockit is Mafia - he has the power as an admin to search through anyone's post history. He would undoubtedly be able to see edits to previous posts.
Even better, Bockit claimed to a Vet. The game is coming down to the wire and before long the entire list of roles will be revealed. That way we corner mafia because they can't kill all the vets, but if they keep killing townies they will out themselves eventually.
When Bockit turns red, the other 7 living Vets will be auto-blued and know who each other are via the publicized list.
With a kill power of 4, which will be down to it's minimum at 3 very soon Mafia will have a hard time killing all the vets AND townies. None of them will be able to role claim vet because the list will be public and they can't argue against it.
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Also at a possible 43 vs 8 mafia scenario don't worry guys - the town is still highly favored to win if I die.
randombum can't pardon anyone at this point because it would make no sense. All deaths at this point no matter who it is is good for the town. If he pardons anyone it won't look good on his part.
With 7( 2 at 2 life) vets, technically we have 40 + 15 + 4 or 59 hits of life left as a town. With a KP of 4 that means it would take almost 15 nights, or at best for the mafia 12 if we killed only townies every day to win the game.
Have faith guys, even with so many blues dead we had a bunch of crucial info + awesome townies that took the charge.
Remember, lynch according to the Mandalor list first. Look at Plexa's old posts and get those names first.
But before everything, Bockit is the next to be lynched.
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On May 27 2008 08:38 L wrote:
Mandalor found the list by searching through threads that has his name it in. There was no abuse of TL.net powers, or edit reading.
either way you're dead, just let my post sit there for now
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I'm interested in knowing:
just why would you reveal that info right now?
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When I asked "why would you reveal that info" I was talking to qrs, L.
Also I've never claimed that you cheated, in fact searching post histories I thought was valid?
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qrs how did you find out about that list anyway?
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L never knew about any blues. Medics only got assignments, no inside info.
Well interesting thing is if Mandalor searched threads for his name ROOOOOOOOOOOFL.
Go ahead, do a search for "Mandalor". True dedication.
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Breaking News!
Before we lynch Bockit townies, lynch randombum. This has been a long time in the works and a lot of people have contributed over time, so here is the overall analysis.
Clues.
I can't remember who it was that brought it up SO long ago, but someone said that a "bum like" clue appeared in a Day post. It pointed to both bumatlarge and randombum but we all dropped it. Well bumatlarge turned out to be INNOCENT. Added to that, look at these clue interpretations that ALL point to randombum.
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. (this is a random event)
Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground (again an unexpected, random event) Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.
he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work (interesting choice of words?) for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.
Mr. Black approached the last target for the night, GrayArea. He found him taking out the trash before going to bed that night and ambushed him as he headed back. Throwing some foul smelling bones from the trash at GrayArea he got his attention. (why wash e hanging around the trash for?) GrayArea saw what was left of the dinner he caught on the ground and no sooner did he notice Mr. Black than was he already being attacked by him. Mr. Black drove a knife through GrayArea's arm and it sent him flinching back. He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back. GrayArea convulsed from the attack and fell to the ground. GrayArea had no escape at this point and Mr. Black finished him off by stabbing him through the heart from the back to finish him.
Mr. Black wasn't out to find someone to kill he was just looking for a bar still open (oh i wonder why? perhaps he's a homeless drunk?) when he came across MoRe_mInErAls. Seeing no one around he thought to himself what an easy kill this would be so he took the opportunity and began to sneak up on MoRe_mInErAls. MoRe_mInErAls was standing outside an unmarked building as if guarding it when he noticed an eerie aroma wafting about. (this guy likes trash remember?) Right when he was about to investigate Mr. Black was behind him and choking him with a piece of rope. MoRe_mInErAls struggled and gasped for air, he tried hitting Mr. Black but only succeeding in knocking them both to the ground. He struggled another moment until finally MoRe_mInErAls died from suffocation.
Look at this piece again
when he came across MoRe_mInErAls. Seeing no one around he thought to himself what an easy kill this would be so he took the opportunity and began to sneak up on MoRe_mInErAls. MoRe_mInErAls was standing outside an unmarked building as if guarding it when he noticed an eerie aroma wafting about.
More_Minerals was my bodyguard. But as Pardoner, randombum was ALSO being guarded by MM. Notice Mr.Black came up behind him and strangled him. Obviously catching MM off-guard from the one place MM wouldn't suspect - inside the very building he was guarding.
Night drew on Liquidia and the town was filled with confidence. Day after day they were pinning down those with criminal intent. But that didn't mean the mafia weren't through. Their first victim this night was Energies. The mafia thought he posed a threat to them so he was number one on their list. Mr. Black crept into his room when he was sleeping trying his best not to wake Energies but an overwhelming stench wafted in with him and crinkled his nose. (stop eating garbage ffs) Energies sat up abruptly and looked around the room spotting Mr. Black. He reached for the gun at his bedside and fired off two rounds at Mr. Black but he had retreated into the hallway and began planning a new course of action. Energies chased after Mr. Black as fast he could into the hallway but didn't expect him to be right in front of him, (random!!) he hesitated and Mr. Black was able to disarm him. Mr. Black kicked him back and grabbed the weapon off the floor, before Energies could get up he had two bullet holes in his chest. (what a thief!!)
Notes about Mr.Black
- He never brings a weapon to the scene
- Always steals people's weapons
- Smells and hangs out by trash
- Is random
- caught More_Minerals, a bodyguard off-guard while he was guarding an unmarked building
Behavior and Alliances
Probably the second most damning thing against randombum is his behavior this game. If you would please remember back in March when this game started what were the 2 major reasons people supported randombum?
1.) He was good at figuring out clues from the first game
2.) He was highly active via the mass PM before the game started
He promised to be very active. However, randombum has been pretty much gone the entire game. He hasn't even led us to any mafia members and he is supposed to be active. However, there is one more disturbing piece of information:
The Empyrean debacle.
Everyone look at the beginning of this game starting around page 18, and then look at the Day 1(Mayor) votes.
Remember who has been confirmed Mafia so far. We know Emp turned out innocent but look at the voting patterns and the reasons listed and make the connections. REMEMBER when we all said trusting Emp was bad and that we'd like to have RB as Pardoner right? Keep that in mind. And now look at how some suspected mafia and confirmed mafia voted:
BWdero
I vote for randombum
Reasoning: I like that he pm'd me. (I do realise it was a mass pm, but still)
And, as CDRdude pointed out, all his votes were spot on last game. Combine that with mayor voting power, and we have a mafiakiller on our hands.
qrs
I have to admit that the thought crossed my mind to run myself, but after seeing the explosion of posts on the first day--forget it. If the pace stays even close to this, I'll never be able to keep up. For that reason, I vote for randombum. He says that he'll have the time to spend on this game, and he proved it by sending out over 100 PMs.
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PS-Obviously, had I run, my campaign would not have been about me (who knows me?) but about my platform. So I may as well say what it would have been: these are the things I think are important for a mayor:
The Mayor by QRS
-Don't use double lynches unless we have a solid idea about who to use them on. In the last Mafia game, the town followed Tracil's rule of using double lynches every day (until they lynched the mayor) and they were both wasted. There is a limited supply, so we should use them wisely.
-Delegate. This game is so huge it will be very hard for one person to keep track of everything. Assign several people to keep track of people's profile quotes and any other evidence on them. Better, ask everyone to keep track of, say, the two people above them on the list of participants. That makes things more manageable.
(OK, it wasn't a huge platform. )
Ninja4ever
I vote for randombum !
========== Start thinking about the plan to get Randombum elected Pardoner about now
Shallow[bay]
i vote for randombum
PM's are an excellent method of votegetting
crazie=penguin
I withdraw my vote from Empyrean and give it to randombum as I've been swayed by recent posts in this blog and the Day 1 Thread and Ace seems to already have enough votes.
L
I vote for randombum on the basis that his candidacy was pre-game and the fact that he isn't Emp.
LTT
I change my vote to randombum as Bob needs a miracle and based on the current information I think it would be wise to avoid electing Emp.
unforgiven_ve
i vote for randombum i think he's trusthwhorty enough cause he was campaining PRE-game
wtf guys?
empyrean voted for Ace...and Ace voted for randonbum
someone running for mayor should/whould ABSTAIN or vote for someone whit no chance...this is just stupid/fishy i dont like what im seeing
Ocz3c
I honestly don't know who to think is mafia and who isn't, especially this early in the game.
Under these conditions, I should abstain...
But I guess the only person who actually asked for a vote from me was Randombum (and through a PM), and that was before the actual game began.
Ace has just wayyy too many votes, and that adds a lot of suspicions...
I vote for Randombum.
BlindAlbino
Changing my vote from Ace to Randombum, seems Ace/empyrean are in this together from recent posts
clazziqui
I change my vote from Ace to now randombum for mayor
Why?
I really do think Ace will be a good mayor. However, his plan is going into effect regardless of his position in the election. But his presentation of the plan was a powerful move that mafia could have used to secure the election and snipe the mayor position. randombum being the least likely person to be mafia due to his pre-game campaign would get the best of both worlds.
Queasy
I changed my vote to Ace on the pure notion that I just didn't want Empyrean in office. Since it looks like Empyrean is safely out of the running, I wish to change my vote from Ace to Randombum.
Look at the voting patterns especially toward the end and who voted for Randombum and the reasons (even though it was clear that Emp lost the race). It's important because I only got the Mayor vote by TWO votes. Mafia possibly were hoping enough people switched at the last minute to get randombum into office as Mayor.
Mandalor list
Keep in mind everything you have just read. Now look at the reduced Mandalor list:
shallow
zbir
ocz3c
romance_us
lysithea
randombum
jimtudor
bwdero
we are sure that 4 of these guys are Mafia.
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