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HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 11 2008 15:18 GMT
#4241
On April 12 2008 00:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I think the mafia member is imderek...

Hamlet quote, Sword fight in Hamlet. I don't believe he's posted much...but has been voting. The story of Hamlet revolves around change, treachery, murder.
"We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership"

still Eddie isnt Imderek and its Eddie who says that if i recall correctly
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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 11 2008 15:28 GMT
#4242
On April 11 2008 14:55 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 14:47 fusionsdf wrote:
Ace, what are the odds araav is mafia?


very slim

What are the odds hot shot is mafia?

He only smiles in the dark...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 11 2008 15:40 GMT
#4243
Why are we not going after General Stan? Fusion all but read his role pm...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 11 2008 15:42 GMT
#4244
Just because names are used doesn't mean they all point to the same person...just the fact that swords were used could point to him (or others). What do you need? A "To be, or Not to be" in one of the day posts...?

As Fusion said, is it confirmed that they every clue in that persons name section points directly to the name used?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 16:28:34
April 11 2008 15:50 GMT
#4245
On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".
Traits
- Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ
- Perhaps a team player (supportive)
- Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue)

Update on who can be Joe, at first I tho he was Zeks for the *with great power, comes great responsabilities*
But I found another thing
DTDominion : Dominion : Control or the exercise of control (put in bold what could be related to him)
Well for me Joe is either Zeks or DTDominion
EDIT : we can also add Grandim to the suspect list
Grand : Of a solemn, stately, or splendid nature. (could be related to this caractere
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HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 18:18:37
April 11 2008 16:13 GMT
#4246
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

We have to find someone who's Causing horror and repugnance; frightful and shocking
rofl, i manage to find nothing on this except : So no fek (picture lol)
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 11 2008 19:33 GMT
#4247
Check list of people that barely post

so no fek - voted Day 1 but nothing else
fen - never voted or PM'd
Dr.Dragoon - voted everyday but never PM'd me his role
ieatkids5 - voted everyday except Day 1
Wizard - never voted but sent me a role PM
Puosu - voted Days 3 and 4
ulszz - voted Day 3 for Showtime! + no role PM
Alethios - voted everyday
infinity21 - never voted + no role PM
ZBiR - voted everyday except Day 4
SiZ.FaNtAsY - voted Day 2 + no role PM
Vharox - never voted or role PM
Unforgiven_ve - voted everyday except day 3
fgsvsd - done nothing at all
KF91 - everything except vote Day 1
str - never voted
smurfingchobo - missed Day 1 and Day 2
Kuja900 - missed Day 2, 4 and no role PM
GranDim - voted everyday
Artanis[Xp] - voted everyday except Day 4
LoStYouRSkiLLS - only voted Day 1 and nothing else
Lysithea - did everything
fanatacist - did everything
SoleSteeler - did everything
KorvspaD - only sent me a role PM, never voted
GeneralStan - voted everyday except day 4
Ziel - didnt vote days 2 and 4, no role PM
Supah - only abstained on Day 3, no role PM
jtan - did nothing
BWdero - done everything
AcrossFiveJulys - after Day 1 never voted again
butidigress - did everything
Jimtudor - did everything
spoinka - never voted after day 1
unsoundlogic - didnt vote Day 1
decafchicken - did everything
DamageControL - never did anything
omfghi2u2 - never did anything
RowdierBob - only voted Day 1, nothing else
AmorVincitOmnia - never did anything
wysp - abstained every day and didn't vote day 4
BuGzlToOnl - voted on days 2 and 4 (nemy both times) + no role PM
GrayArea - voted Day 1 and abstained every day after, no role PM
crazie-penguin - voted Day 1 and abstained every day after
DTDominion - never did anything
zeks - voted everyday except Day 4
useLess - did everything except vote Day 3 (when he REALLY should have) and didn't send role PM
G.s)NarutO - voted Day 1 and Day 4, no role PM
Evilmonkey - voted everyday except day 1
Klive5ive - did everything
KH1031 - did everything
rpf - did everything

Analysis of this list

First: 2 birds with one stone

The first issue is useless. When EvilMonkey is lynched if he turns out to be green then useless is the #1 suspect. He didn't vote when we asked him to and was active every other time. The only thing saving him is that the list had 1 mafia member again. That would mean that Opz would have to be Mafia by default as he's the only new name in the list still alive. But then that implicates both of them since 1 Mafia would have just replaced another. If EM turns out green, both of them are Mafia. I'm going to double check my info one more time to make sure this holds up.

Second: in-actives/low laying scum

People that are inactive on that list fall under the category of doing nothing or voting early/rarely and then leaving. Some people abstained all days but that shows activity so they are only listed here if I don't have a role PM from them.These people are:

so no fek
fen
wizard
ulszz
infinity21
SiZ.FaNtAsY
vharox
fgsvsd
str
kuja900
lostyourskills
korspaD
Ziel
Supah
jtan
AcrossFiveJulys
damagecontrol
omfghi2u2
Rowdierbob
AmorVincitOmnia
BuGzlToOnl
GrayArea
DTdominion


Almost everyone on this list is pretty much useless to the town. They are either inactive or lying low Mafioso. By now these players would surely have done something and I'm asking the town to focus on this list and cross reference them with any other lists and clue analysis we have. They are all good for lynching since none of them contribute so it doesn't matter if they are innocent or not. Once again, these players are either inactive or Mafia.



Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 20:15:14
April 11 2008 19:50 GMT
#4248
well from the last list : i found something on dtdominion, Rowdierbob, so no fek + str could easly be related to a mafioso

Im not sure if evilMonkey is mafia
My top suspect atm are LTT and L : reason they both are defending L (with suresh0t defending him aswell)
LTT could be Mr.Orange about all the screaming clues + L about the 12 clues
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smurfingchobo
Profile Joined April 2004
833 Posts
April 11 2008 20:05 GMT
#4249
I actually voted in Day 2, but it wasn't credited due to me editing my post instead of making a new one. I wasn't actively reading at the start when people were voting for Mayor and stuff so I didn't get to vote. I've made only a few posts, I admit, but it's only because I don't really have anything to say. Also, when I do find something that intrigues me, I find someone already posted about it.

I'll try to be more active from now on but with Plexa interpreting the clues so amazingly, I don't really know how much I'd be able to contribute (besides voting).
Teach me PvZ~
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 22:00:08
April 11 2008 21:55 GMT
#4250
Going with Plexa's analysis on this one.
Moonlight Shadow
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
April 11 2008 22:12 GMT
#4251
wow I don't check this thread on for about one day and look at all that's happened. But judging from the voting thread, I'm assuming Ace has commanded everyone to vote Siefu and Evilmonkey?
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 12 2008 00:13 GMT
#4252
On April 11 2008 17:15 Scorch wrote:
!!! IMPORTANT !!!
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2008 17:04 Scorch wrote:
On April 07 2008 15:16 MidnightGladius wrote:
Cross-referencing some lists:
+ Show Spoiler +

Confirmed Innocent: incorrect list forged by mafia!

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler


Ghar - 7(now 5) (1 Mafia)
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
ShadowDrgn
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
Evilmonkey.


Ace - 7(now 5) (1 Mafia)
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~ <-- not necessarily innocent any more
Evilmonkey.


Here, the following coincide in the two lists:

imDerek
Evilmonkey
Alventenie


Whereas these occur once:

Chezinu
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
fusionsdf


Of these, the following can easily be count-checked:

fusionsdf (only one voting for Ace)
Chezinu (only one voting for Ninja4ever)
---
aZnvaLiaNce voted for TranceStorm with 13 others, so that's a dead end for now.


Abstentions:

imDerek
Evilmonkey
Alventenie
useLess


Do with this what you will.


I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie

is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf

are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.

It's nice of you to consider my conclusions and all, but this is not correct any more! I thought I had already made it clear that my list was based on the list of "confirmed" innocents, which turned out to be fake. We can thus ignore the list of innocents, which adds ~OpZ~ to the picture.

It is therefore now:

(Exactly one out of imDerek | Evilmonkey | Alventenie)

OR

(Exactly one out of Chezinu | fusionsdf | ~OpZ~) AND (Exactly one out of useLess | aZnvaLiaNce)



I had already said I was no longer confirmed innocent a while ago...despite being innocent...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 12 2008 00:21 GMT
#4253
On April 12 2008 04:33 Ace wrote:

First: 2 birds with one stone

The first issue is useless. When EvilMonkey is lynched if he turns out to be green then useless is the #1 suspect. He didn't vote when we asked him to and was active every other time. The only thing saving him is that the list had 1 mafia member again. That would mean that Opz would have to be Mafia by default as he's the only new name in the list still alive. But then that implicates both of them since 1 Mafia would have just replaced another. If EM turns out green, both of them are Mafia. I'm going to double check my info one more time to make sure this holds up.




Oi...Don't vote me before Useless...I'm seriously townie....o_o....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Hollander
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway13 Posts
April 12 2008 00:51 GMT
#4254
Sure are a lot of blues dieing...
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 12 2008 01:22 GMT
#4255
Isn't rpf banned Ace? (on the list of people who never post)
sAviOr...
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Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 12 2008 01:24 GMT
#4256
Ok since Ace isnt helping the town, Im starting to believe he's mafia, he manage to kill a medic (wurm), now he's about to make a vigi kill on a jack but he isnt saying his name, and I could easly relate his name to a mafioso.

Im gonna put 2 names here of who Im about 99% sure they are innocent
-SonuvBob (first to accuse Queasy)
-Aznvaliance (first to accuse d.arkive)
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 12 2008 01:39 GMT
#4257
....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor.
sAviOr...
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
April 12 2008 01:48 GMT
#4258
On April 12 2008 10:39 Camlito wrote:
....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor.

Im 100% sure Ace is innocent but, I dont get why he's not cooperating with 100% confirmed townie
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 12 2008 01:55 GMT
#4259
On April 12 2008 10:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 10:39 Camlito wrote:
....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor.

Im 100% sure Ace is innocent but, I dont get why he's not cooperating with 100% confirmed townie


That make sense, but he may of talked to people who have been right already (Like plexa) and decided a while ago.

I have a good feeling about tonight, and if we see 2 red + Correct vigi hits...
sAviOr...
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-12 02:03:17
April 12 2008 02:00 GMT
#4260
On April 12 2008 10:55 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 10:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 12 2008 10:39 Camlito wrote:
....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor.

Im 100% sure Ace is innocent but, I dont get why he's not cooperating with 100% confirmed townie


That make sense, but he may of talked to people who have been right already (Like plexa) and decided a while ago.

I have a good feeling about tonight, and if we see 2 red + Correct vigi hits...

I dont think that we will have 2 reds tonight, Evilmonkey's death is like transtorm death = hoping he's the mafia in the list but i have to say that I had found a weak clue against him. Now that clue I had against evilmonkey, switched to LTT.
and for Siefu theres 3 potential mafioso being his caractere. Why is he lynched tonight? because even Ace was suspecting him of being mafioso.
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