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French_Toast you misunderstood me again, I meant "general" as in: people who don't read / don't get it / don't PM.
I didn't mean general as "French_Toast's posts in general". You take everything personal 
edit: the followup part of my post that you quoted can be misunderstood, too, and I think you took it on yourself: it's directed at Shallow[bay] to try to get him get his act together.
Well that's too much posting from me again: I'm off to sleep.
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On March 21 2008 20:24 Pangolin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 20:12 Naib wrote:Well, you can't just "do that" even though we got way less spam this time  (wait until next clues are out though, I'm sure that'll mean +20 pages under 5 hours  ). Even though the Town has very few things to do atm, the Mafia needs a lot of time to organize (20 people in a PM madness can be pretty time-consuming  ) So let's just wait and pray for our lives  How is it that you are so familiar with the troubles of being a mobster? Were you mafia last game or something?
I didn't play last game, but just imagine it! (or read what Empy wrote about the first game)
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On March 22 2008 20:40 araav wrote:
...(edited out 'cause it's irrelevant)
and if a paramedic happened to save me, thanks and please pm me, you must be sure i am a townie if i was saved.
will try to contribute later
You would know if a paramedic was protecting you should you have incurred a hit as it is stated in the game rules. You could have been protected by a paramedic but not get hit, if you didn't get a PM about it. (correct me if I'm wrong here please, but I'm positive that I'm right)
I didn't read through the clue interpretations (I skipped them on purpose so I can post my own ideas), I have an even stronger suspicion about Ghar than I had the day before, therefore I'll vote for him (pretty soon).
I guess it's kinda obvious, but I'll toss this in here anyway: it's because the "being sorrounded" quotes. 2 of the very same kind, imo, can't be a coincidence.
Edit: Bolded Ghar's name and added reason
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After reading up on the clues and the various interpretations, my thoughts are:
I think Lostyourskills, L, and Hittegods are very suspicious too, but imo, we're on the wrong track with Ninja4ever.
I would post a longer explanation if I had the time (feel free to troll me with "BANDWAGONER OMG!" for it).
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On March 22 2008 23:47 JeeJee wrote:ah yes it could be you too, good catch.  also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia
You misunderstood me. You don't get a notice if you're being watched, only if you are watched, targetted by an attack and saved!
Quoting the rules now to make it even more clear:
"Paramedic
(...)
A clue will not be left behind if he is saved, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic and the person saved know if they were targeted and saved."
I guess that also means, that for example, if 2 paramedics are protecting X, and X gets hit by 2 mafia, he won't get a notice "Hey you were hit by 2 mafia, but 2 medics saved your ass" but only "you were hit and saved". Both medics would get a PM like this in this case: "X, that you protected, was hit, but he's still alive." This way, both medics would know that the person they watched for is saved, but they wouldn't know that more than 1 medic was watching him, nor they would know if there were more than 1 mafia hits.
That's my interpretation, and I'm fairly sure it's correct.
If Chuiu or anyone more experienced finds a flaw in my explanation, feel free to point it out.
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@ JeeJee
Sorry, I didn't intend to answer that part of your post, I think I misunderstood you a bit, thinking that you didn't "get" that whole "when-you-get-a-PM" thing. Sorry for that.
As for your explanation, yes, that's one side of the argument - but maybe he just wants someone to share information with? Like, a smaller work-group that Ace is putting together. Maybe I'm just naive
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Heh, I totally forgot that MSPaint that links to Ghar, yet I still voted from him as the first one I think? Ironic.
Poor Mynock was not only killed - seriously, that's a damn execution!
Ace is 99% innocent because of: 1, the detective-plan. It was (hopefully) accepted by at least 1 detective to check him out, and if he's not legit ("What is Ace's original role?" question ) then speak up and sacrifice oneself. 2, his mentioned ongoing PM convo with Mynock, predicting Mynock would be dead and being sad about not being able to organize paramedic defence. Although this could be a clever feint, it's unlikely, especially combined with reason #1.
I'd say we lynch Ghar - he pretty much disappeared from the thread anyway after his first few attempts at self-defense vs the Day 1 clue, I'd say he'd be the most certain hit. Ace knows a few more, but imo it's better that he saves his information - and if he's sure, and if he has any Jack / Vigilante that reported in, he can send them to do the killing. (if we need it - maybe we can save their power for later, and just go on by lynching day by day. Should we kill all the likely mafia canditates, we might run out of targets for the next lynch. That's a point to consider, even though more clues will surely pop up.)
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I changed my vote from Ghar to Mandalor only on Ace's request, to be sure.
Ghar, you're going down next time >.<
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On March 24 2008 07:47 ZBiR wrote: Yeah, I vote for them being dismembered by four polar bears!
Who all yell "Waaah, fresh meat!!" right? 
Anyway, I think I know where Ace lied to lure Mandalor into his trap, of course I won't reveal that in public (Ace would have done that if he wanted to, it would work vs us if we just told the Mafia about the method).
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On March 24 2008 08:29 Ace wrote: Also, after today's vote we'll see who didn't vote at all and bump them up in the suspect list.
I'm pretty sure Chuiu bumps those out of the game faster than we'd bump them on the suspect list 
My #1 is Ghar. For the MSPaint, and the 2 "being sorrounded" like references (yeah, just kinda quoting myself from earlier).
I don't suspect Pink or French, I'd say they're just stirring cr*p immaturely.
I find Showtime!' behaviour a bit erratic, but I have to look up his posts once again before I accuse him of anything. That, I will do in the morning because I'm dead tired now.
P.s.: Happy Easter Holidays Mandalor!
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I still think that the clues interpreted vs Ninja4ever are wrong leads pointing to other people
(in other words: hey, I am not suspicious of you! )
P.s.: Nice lynching Ace, way to go!
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On March 24 2008 20:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2008 20:32 Ninja4ever. wrote:On March 24 2008 20:12 Naib wrote:I still think that the clues interpreted vs Ninja4ever are wrong leads pointing to other people (in other words: hey, I am not suspicious of you!  ) P.s.: Nice lynching Ace, way to go! Cool, at least one person trust me  Lets analyze your position shall we? If you were going to be mafia you would be cottonmouth + Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.
NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Traits- Knives = weapon of choice - Leaves his victims to die slowly (- Not present in opening night) Now lets examine you.. Your ID Ninja4ever implies that you are a stealthy weapons master, and that you are well a ninja. Your sig is a Ghandi quote, interesting paradox really. On top of that you have said v-e-r-y little and nothing important at that. Basically the only connection between you and Cottonmouth is your id. However, Ninja's tend to work alone - so working in a group doesn't fit with the id. However the precision of the knives does suggest ninja like precision. Your persona also does not match that of Cottonmouth. With nothing else to go on, i'd say that the conclusion is inclusive at best. And an estimated probability of Mafia to be 10%... There isn't enough evidence to suggest anything after one night - and im sure there are better candidates out there.
He was also connected to the clue jumping from the roof, surprising the victim striking from the shadows (lights were out). I'd say that clue would definitely point to Ninja4ever as very vague at best, but could be connected to someone else easier.
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Someone kill Showtime, please
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On March 26 2008 06:35 qrs wrote:
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Ahrara, the logic behind Ace's plan is very simple: simply a way to narrow down who the Mafia are. It only works if people follow it. Why would you abstain? There aren't enough detectives to check everyone individually (...)
That's why he said he'll vote for a random person, so the detective can check the group along with him (if he votes with a small herd, a detective checking that out [unlimited ability: "How many of the people that voted for X are mafia?" question] could easily validate his trustworthyness to Ace)
Please, guys, this is like the 3rd time a question like this comes up. At least try to remember what each member of the game can do (especially detectives, everyone seems to forget their abilities)
Edit #2: screwed up quoting, that was the reason for my edit
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We're still rooting for you, Chuiu.
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a, and c,
Then proceed with lynching both.
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Well, this is getting out of hand...I'm not taking part in this any longer under these circumstances...
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On March 29 2008 00:37 Ace wrote:
I've also just realized I might know how dinmsab got killed.
I was about to ask that. I mean he didn't say anything in the thread (did he even post? I surely missed it), so my first impression seeing him die AND being a detective had me puzzled - I guess your group's security was compromised? Well, I'm glad you know how to deal with it...because as things are now with everyone flaming one another, I sure as hell don't keep up to date with this thread anymore...
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On March 29 2008 01:43 Ace wrote: Well this much is certain, Ghar is about to be dropped off the suspect list. Whether he is Mafia or not right now isn't a concern.
Bumatlarge is suspect #2, and wurm is suspect #1.
Just to clarify, you want us to vote for suspect #1 OR #2 according to your list (NOT both) and then do whatever we want with our second vote, right?
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