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On March 30 2008 11:24 0cz3c wrote:I'm wondering why Ninja4Ever has not been put as suspicious, yet. At this point, I see two obvious clues pointing at him. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925¤tpage=48#958Shadowdrgn makes clear that in the first Day post, one of the mafia came out of nowhere, begging the similarity of a ninja. That may not seem captivating by itself, but in the Day 3 post, a clue pointing to Ninja comes again. "He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead." From the "thrown some at him," I'm really suspecting a ninja star, or blade, or whatever those things are. That's THE only object I can come up with that would slice his head clean off by being thrown. I don't know if he's innocent or now, or if Ace knows whether he's innocent or not, but these clues seem, apart from the bum clues with Sidewinder, to be the strongest we have. They were mentioned before, and I think they ought be revisited. The original mafia pertaining to Ninja4ever was + Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.
NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.
- Knives = weapon of choice
- Leaves his victims to die slowly
(- Not present in opening night)
The accuracy with the knives tipped us off to think of ninjas
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.
He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.
With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.
He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
- Comes from nowhere (dark -> light)
(- Possibly connected to a smiley face)
- Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1)
This is the mafia that appears from the shadows (and likes shotguns  )
+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.
He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)
and this is the most recent example of ninja-esque behavior. The fact that he bowed is a clue imo.
There are three similar characters in this way, the closest being California Mountain Snake (bowing doesn't add up) and Cottonmouth (knives > stars why?)
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Ok, here is my list of suspicious people.
Wizard as possibly California Mountain Snake
+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.
He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)
The connection here is between the wizards hat and the hat he took off as he bowed. If the hat becomes a theme wizard should be a suspect
Amber[LighT] as Copperhead
+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims
From the connection between Carmel and Copperhead (im not great on accents though =/)
str as Taipan Snake
+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.
They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device
Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
No units = no power, no batteries = no power. The single point here is thematic and relates. Rather strong feeling about this one.
MTF as Enigma
+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"
The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
This is rather nice "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." hello Enigma's persona! rather sure about this clue too
Queasy as Sidewinder
+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.
Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.
Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.
In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)
The recurring sickness relates to Queasy more than any other person in this game.
suresh0t as Mr Orange
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.
Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
- Cuts phonelines
Garage connection, tools connection, there is a strong connection between these clues and this picture from his profile.
MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer
+ Show Spoiler +Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)
(Snake charmer might be Mandalor, possibly not given the mandalorian reference). His picture is of a sword, rather blatant clue - but so was tomissthemark. Also his quote advocates change which connects to another mafia member
Also, i have my eye on Clazziquai (band reference), Sonuvbob (profile references, drop of activity), aZnvaLiaNce (asian connection + profile info), MoRe_mInErAls (god picture), Lysithea (quote)(nice profile pic, i love it ^^!), 0cz3c (latin quote, dealing with immortality), ahara_ (asian connection), Naib (picture and quote), BuGzlToOnl (breaking the code), Zeks (quote), rpf (quote). Those people have something there which can be attributed to one or more mafia but im not certain enough about the clues to say anything conclusive yet
+ Show Spoiler +while the clue links are rather tenuous, remember in mafia 1 how streched the clues were? one facet about each player was taken and inspired the clues.. this is what i've done here; taken one clue from people and matched it to a recurring theme in a mafia. This is what makes me so confident in my accusations
if i die tonight, you know im on to something
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On March 30 2008 13:07 Plexa wrote:Ok, here is my list of suspicious people. Wizard as possibly California Mountain Snake + Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.
He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) The connection here is between the wizards hat and the hat he took off as he bowed. If the hat becomes a theme wizard should be a suspect Amber[LighT] as Copperhead + Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Has an accent (possibly southern USA) - Likes to torment/taunt his victims From the connection between Carmel and Copperhead (im not great on accents though =/) str as Taipan Snake + Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.
They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device
Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently - (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake) - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics No units = no power, no batteries = no power. The single point here is thematic and relates. Rather strong feeling about this one. MTF as Enigma + Show Spoiler [Enigma] +Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"
The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right This is rather nice "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." hello Enigma's persona! rather sure about this clue too Queasy as Sidewinder + Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.
Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.
Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.
In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. - Sickly appearance -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) The recurring sickness relates to Queasy more than any other person in this game. suresh0t as Mr Orange + Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.
Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. - Cuts phonelines Garage connection, tools connection, there is a strong connection between these clues and this picture from his profile. MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer + Show Spoiler +Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) (Snake charmer might be Mandalor, possibly not given the mandalorian reference). His picture is of a sword, rather blatant clue - but so was tomissthemark. Also his quote advocates change which connects to another mafia member Also, i have my eye on Clazziquai (band reference), Sonuvbob (profile references, drop of activity), aZnvaLiaNce (asian connection + profile info), MoRe_mInErAls (god picture), Lysithea (quote)(nice profile pic, i love it ^^!), 0cz3c (latin quote, dealing with immortality), ahara_ (asian connection), Naib (picture and quote), BuGzlToOnl (breaking the code), Zeks (quote), rpf (quote). Those people have something there which can be attributed to one or more mafia but im not certain enough about the clues to say anything conclusive yet + Show Spoiler +while the clue links are rather tenuous, remember in mafia 1 how streched the clues were? one facet about each player was taken and inspired the clues.. this is what i've done here; taken one clue from people and matched it to a recurring theme in a mafia. This is what makes me so confident in my accusations
if i die tonight, you know im on to something
I won't say who but most of them are on my mafia's list
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i have a rather stronger feeling towards energy than str, as his nick refers to energy and is from australia = taipan snake
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On that list i still feel str is mafia like you point out...its why i vote him.
besides this im not very sure.
Queasy, MidnightGladius, Bugzltoonl all seem good as well
and yes like nightmare say energies too. i use 2nd vote on him for the laast day.
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Plexa, I'll tell you my role if you tell me what is happening in the morning. I won't tell anyone! Promise!
PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ^_^ <3...<4...<5 (look I went to less then 5! You have to tell me now)
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On March 30 2008 13:16 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i have a rather stronger feeling towards energy than str, as his nick refers to energy and is from australia = taipan snake Energies was my original suspect for Taipan but its too obvious
There's just too many clues pertaining to him and taipan and thats NOT chuiu's style let me make some lists up
+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.
They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device
Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
Energies;
Australian = connects to Taipan Snake as taipan is a highly venomous snake from australia
Energy = recurring theme in taipans character (but only electrical energy)
Its too obvious to be true imo (look at ghar for example and shadowdrgn, we had comparable amounts of evidence pointing to them as we do to energies and we were wrong - this is because chuiu doesn't write clues in this style)
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Need to figure out who Mandalor was, that way we can analyse Chuiu's clue styles.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen rpf make any posts or even vote? I'm wonder whether he is completely inactive or just keeping cover, if he is just inactive, I'm wondering why he hasn't been replaced. Otherwise I'm sure there are a lot of people completely inactive, he is just one name that stands out for me.
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There's no way we can really say what Chuiu's "style" is. The best way to go about this is to let Ace and the DTs figure it out, although my faith in them was a little bit shaken after the last night's lynching.
And wtf, one DT didn't use his powers? What a nublet.
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ah finally i'm a suspect ish...i was getting bored of doing nothing but trying to interpret clues, now i'll get to play defense?
well no i don't play defense, you all think what you want about the clues...
As for Mr. Orange if all you got to go on is tools, and the fact that it was Mr. Pink who used the skull like a "hammer" as I'm thinking where the connection is, is quite loose. But, to each his own. Camilto, I think I've been your only suspect this entire time, did i rape your sister or something in a past life? :-)
good hunting town, hopefully the voting clarifies some stuff, but i don't see that shedding any light for a few more days. It was a rough day of lynches but if we stick to the plan I think we'll get back on track. Here's hoping the Mafia miss the blues this night cycle <3. Time for bed
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On March 30 2008 13:07 Plexa wrote:MTF as Enigma + Show Spoiler [Enigma] +Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"
The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right This is rather nice "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." hello Enigma's persona! rather sure about this clue too
You know you're a narcissistic bastard when you enjoy being analyzed for a forum game. :B
*points to self*
The only people I have any real suspicion of are bumatlarge and Queasy, both on seemingly the same set of clues. But, last game the clues that we (or at least I) thought were all interconnected were not; there would be clues for multiple people while just one mafia persona was being referenced.
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I saw rpf vote, he's just lurking quietly.
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On March 30 2008 13:34 Energies wrote:
Need to figure out who Mandalor was, that way we can analyse Chuiu's clue styles.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen rpf make any posts or even vote? I'm wonder whether he is completely inactive or just keeping cover, if he is just inactive, I'm wondering why he hasn't been replaced. Otherwise I'm sure there are a lot of people completely inactive, he is just one name that stands out for me. Thats currently my task, will report back once i've done some research on what the fuck mandalors are
Possibilities;
- Mr White
- Black Mamba
- King Brown Snake
- Mr Blue
- The Wolf
- Cottonmouth
- Mr Blonde
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The fact that the town's "strong" convictions have all failed should be a pointed hint to re-consider how we evaluate clues. Granted, there are a LOT of players, which creates overlap and ambiguities, especially when most of the clues refer to non-specific things.
A lot of people in the U.S. have sentiments for change, and swords are a common motif in many members' profiles. The fact that you're using degrees or levels of relation (and that many other facets of Snake Charmer have nothing to do with me) makes for rather flimsy evidence. If Energies is too obvious to be a power-cutter, I don't see why my name and a picture of a sword should connect me to a rampant slasher.
I think we should be looking in other directions for our next lynch. Going by subjective views based on ambiguous evidence won't get us anywhere.
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On March 30 2008 11:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2008 09:47 qrs wrote:
*Jaw drops*. If Ghar was a townie, I'm done with clue interpretation. Looks like you're done interpreting clues.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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On March 30 2008 13:35 Empyrean wrote:
There's no way we can really say what Chuiu's "style" is. The best way to go about this is to let Ace and the DTs figure it out, although my faith in them was a little bit shaken after the last night's lynching.
And wtf, one DT didn't use his powers? What a nublet.
Remember guys, we already can analyze Chuiu's clue styles. Chuiu posted a full clue list at the end of the previous game, and the vast majority were written by him rather than Dapperdan.
Link here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=155#3091
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On March 30 2008 14:14 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2008 13:35 Empyrean wrote:
There's no way we can really say what Chuiu's "style" is. The best way to go about this is to let Ace and the DTs figure it out, although my faith in them was a little bit shaken after the last night's lynching.
And wtf, one DT didn't use his powers? What a nublet. Remember guys, we already can analyze Chuiu's clue styles. Chuiu posted a full clue list at the end of the previous game, and the vast majority were written by him rather than Dapperdan. Link here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=155#3091 Actually, allow me to elaborate further;
Let's take Quesadilla. He was the strongman from the last mafia game, but where does this link come from? His name is representative of a food (maxican) and there are no obvious quotes linking to that. However THIS picture says 'real men proxy', the connection? Real Men -> buff and tough -> link; how abstract is that?!
Let's take Fen. In order to get the connection you needed to wikipedia "Fen" and you'll see that it was a quagmire -> mud -> boots and that was the main clue.
Let's take Empyrean. The connection was in his name looked up, which referred to position and god which was his single recurring clue throughout
etc
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Let's take a look at some clues which people thought pointed at me but actually didn't:
"As if ceremoniously, one of the mafia bowed with an arm extended"
"Before the man could finish him off he looked up at him and said "you will have to answer for this to god""
Both of them were "obvious".
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On March 30 2008 13:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I saw rpf vote, he's just lurking quietly.
In that case, I see him as a very strong candidate for Mafia, since I don't think I have seen a single post by him in this thread.
Any vigilantes feel like blind killing tonight?
I'll be honest, I just don't like the guy.
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I'm a suspect. 
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EPT
