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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 20 2008 18:41 GMT
#1721
Okay, i guess i should say this:

A lot of people are saying that lynching a bodyguard is a good thing, as if its no big deal.

Wrong.

These are the possible results:
We know that all bodyguards are townies.
We don't know who the Mayor and Pardoner are.

If Mayor = Towny and Pardoner = Towny
1 Towny + .25 towny + .25 towny = 1.5 townies
If Mayor = Scum and Pardoner = Towny (or if Mayor = Towny and Pardoner = Scum)
1 Towny + 0 towny + .25 towny = 1.25 townies
If both M + P are scum:
1 Towny = 1 Towny

On average, killing a bodyguard is like killing 1.25 townies.

I still haven't seen any good reasoning aside from Tracil and Live2Win at this point that would imply my guilt. This is why I withdrew my vote, because I really don't think that despite my evidence, it failed to provoke any thinking and just started a bandwagon. Just like I am.

Well, if I die, it will serve a lesson to those bandwagoners to maybe think of what they're doing rather than simply voting because so-and-so said so.

Nemy is an exception because I pissed him off. If I die nemy I will forgive you you have a good reason.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 20 2008 18:45 GMT
#1722
On February 21 2008 03:40 ZBiR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2008 03:12 Caller wrote:

Caller United States. February 20 2008 09:58. Posts 215
C) Either the mayor or the pardoner is mafiaso.
Now, you may ask why this is the case. Well, I would suggest doing a little thinking :D


I don't undarstand this part of your reasoning - what has pardoner to do with whole situation? But yeah, this kinda looks like suggesting you're a bodyguard, I must have missed it because of this pardoner thing



i would think that the pardoner is protected by the bodyguards. Thus, he/she would be more cautious about people whom claim to be BGs than other people, especially when it comes to voting for them.

Amber[Light], here are the reason's I'm voting for you:

A) A dim light is apparent in the evening (moonlight) i.e. day 1 and day 2 killings. Also, in the theater, it emits a dim light. Why not Southlight? Southlight would probably have a clue involving a constellation. At least that's my thinking.
2) You are not only trying to take what seems to be a direct clue (and we all know what direct clues have done for us) but you are trying to convince others that it is a masterstroke.
3) You have the talking pattern that other people who were killed at night have. You pop in every now and then and say something, then leave. Yet for some reason, unlike your camaraden, you're still alive. That leads me to think that either you are VERY lucky or that you are scum.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-20 18:52:33
February 20 2008 18:50 GMT
#1724
On February 21 2008 03:49 ZBiR wrote:
okay, but did you claim to be a BG before that post from 9.58? cause I don't think so, hence my suspicions


why on earth would i do that, that's asking for getting my throat slit. telling everybody that you're a blue will cause the townies to get suspicious and the mafia to execute you mercilessly rather than some poor green.

edit: the only reason i would do that is to avoid wasting one of the town's precious lynches.

here's my thinking right now:
steve is mayor.
he wants as many body shields as possible.
therefore, he wouldn't want to do a double lynch because he would lose a bodyguard for no appreciable gain.
however: if i am no longer in danger of being lynched, he would more likely do a double lynch.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 20 2008 19:03 GMT
#1726
On February 21 2008 03:59 ZBiR wrote:
Omg, this wasn't my point to literally answer that question, I wanted you to say why you suspected either Steve or Tracil, despite the fact that Tracil doesn't know you're a bodyguard (because you already said that you didn't reveal that earlier).

Show nested quote +
On February 21 2008 03:45 Caller wrote:
i would think that the pardoner is protected by the bodyguards. Thus, he/she would be more cautious about people whom claim to be BGs than other people, especially when it comes to voting for them.



Assuming that I am a BG:
Steve has clearly stated that his goal is to remain alive. So mafia or not, I know that he would be on my side.
Tracil needs the protection of bodyguards if he is a towny. If he is not a towny then he, being the intelligent person that he is, would also want to protect me if he suspected i was a BG.

I don't suspect either one of them at the moment. I was saying that was a possiblity.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 20 2008 19:05 GMT
#1727


Tracil had no idea if you're a BG or not, so he didn't have any reason to spare you, still you throw a shadow of suspicion at him, like he didn't kill you (as mafia) as he knew.


Of course he wouldn't, UNLESS steve is mafia as is tracil, or if steve told tracil who the guards are. I dunno. It was only one of several possibilities that I had out there.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 20 2008 23:15 GMT
#1747
Although I would love not to get lynched right now, I think that people should at least explain their reasoning before doing something rash like voting arbitrarily.

I withdraw my vote from Amber[Light] and will abstain for now.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 21 2008 00:42 GMT
#1766
On February 21 2008 09:41 nemY wrote:
FakeSteve and Caller are mafioso buds covering each other's butts. I change my votes for them!


...lol

we've already gone over this.

if i die somehow and flip up as mafia
that implicates him as being mafia also = stupid
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 21 2008 03:14 GMT
#1776
On February 21 2008 12:11 Live2Win wrote:
So now it looks like I'm 90% about to be lynched. So I'll play my final card.

I am L I am a paramedic

Keeping this information no longer benefits me. It will be revealed anyways, and hopefully once my innocence is revealed, my previous accusations will be considered heavily.

Also, I pubically request the pardoner, Tracil to pardon me. There's no point in PMing him, as he is against all PMs regarding the game.

Some of you may see this as a desparate attemp by a mafia to stay alive. But this would be the same whether I was a townie or townie. If I die then that's it for me. I can do no more. Thus, I'm spilling everything I know for the town to use. Hopefully the town will use my previous posts and information to direct their attentions to someone else, someone who is hopefully a mafia.

Others may wonder why I would risk a piece of information that guarantees death by the mafia, if not by the town. Again, because if I die then that's it. Even if this move keeps me alive for only an extra day, it will let me help the town. Another possibility is that another paramedic may keep me alive for the awhile, if they believe I'm innocent.

There, I'm now naked in front of you all. I hide nothing.


i figured as much...

although i wouldnt pubically request anybody to do anything. that'd be kinda sketchy.

My only question for you is, why did u keep calling on medics to save you?
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-21 19:11:57
February 21 2008 19:09 GMT
#1822
Doing the math, now apparently I have more votes than anyone else. shit lol

edit: live2win now only has 4 votes to my 5, tracil has 4 votes. interesting..........
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 21 2008 22:07 GMT
#1837
BANDWAGONBANDWAGONBANDWAGONBANDWAGON

evven though im in this game i think this entire voting process is lols
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 21 2008 22:49 GMT
#1852
[B]
if you hate fucking retards vote to lynch tracil and we can get on with the game without his overbearing, annoying presence

FakeSteve, you have an overbearing, annoying presence. Even if Tracil is a mafia, at least we can put up with him because he doesn't swear at us, accuse us without reason, and insult us.
(in the game) and leave us alone.[/QUOTE]

actually i think that its hilarious, so im not sure if thats that good of a reason to kill people.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 21 2008 23:24 GMT
#1875
hmmmmmmmmm:
lynching
fakesteve:
chicken` -Suspect
Romance_us -Suspect
Aepplet-Suspect
Live2Win -Suspect
Empyrean-Suspect
Vharox-not a suspect
ZBiR-not a suspect
Southlight-suspect
Other people-not suspects

Mayor election
FakeSteve 14
Puosu-dead
Caller-almost dead
KF91
SiZ.FaNtAsY-dead
GeneralStan-banned FakeSteve 14
Puosu
Caller
KF91
SiZ.FaNtAsY
GeneralStan
wurm
randombum
Hypnosis
Wizard
NotSorry
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 22 2008 02:09 GMT
#1921
I vote yes for extension and double lynch:

Think about it people:

we've jumped from me, to live2win, to fakesteve. All this over a short span of time. What might be revealed next?

also it is tempting to execute the top two honchos. Who wants anarchy!!!!
...no. just kidding

I think that we should use our double lynches whenever possible, ESPECIALLY if we're going to lynch the mayor.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 22 2008 02:31 GMT
#1926
On February 22 2008 11:29 NotSorry wrote:
I change my vote to nemY anyone who likes creepy emo goth 12yr olds has to be mafia.

41 years
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 22 2008 05:12 GMT
#1958
I will abstain with both of my votes until persuaded otherwise.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 22 2008 05:49 GMT
#1969
one could make the argument that he knew accusations against them would fall flat, so he tried to playfully indict his own mafia teammates.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 23 2008 02:58 GMT
#2018
I think... I will vote for NotSorry and Tracil

Now, my vote is not for tracil because I think he is mafiaso. Its more of a vote against lynching fakesteve. We NEED the extra lynch people.
Tracil can pardon himself (i think) so he has nothing to worry about. Unless he is planning on pardoning fakesteve thus, or if there are two people that are lynchable, i probably wont change votes. If he does those things, I probably will abstain with that vote.

Live2Win, my eye is still on you
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 23 2008 23:29 GMT
#2165
Guys im pretty sure its GG

consider it: we have until day 6 to kill at least two mafiaso.
thats... three days
we have three lynches therefore

i doubt the mafia would have 0 candidates for mayor-at least one had to be mayor

the only major candidate left is...Tracil.

therefore Tracil is likely mafiaso
he has 4 pardons for 3 lynches
therefore
were buttfucked
and we cant kill him cuz 3 bodyguards are still alive
so unless our vigilantes killed all our bodyguards and tracil
were boned
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 26 2008 00:32 GMT
#2325
I vote for Tracil, he's the last surviving mayoral candidate. Plus if we do vote mafia he could just pardon anyways.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 27 2008 03:21 GMT
#2386
interesting.

I change my vote to Miss the mark
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