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On June 09 2024 01:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 01:50 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 01:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 00:55 Vivax wrote: Everytime I filter the flying dutchwoman it's like I'm reading her having a conversation with herself. Monologuing herself out of having to push something in perpetuum. Rsoul? Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. Youre town so thats good It‘d be of help to me if you could be a bit more decisive on the scott vs kelsier debate Wtf are you even talking about?
Could you briefly put into words what you think of the two. And why Kelsier is the better choice when he isn‘t trying to hide his awfulness.
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On June 09 2024 01:52 rsoultin wrote: i literally voted kelsier because i don't think scott's mafia and i think kelsier's the next best chance to flip scum after sandy idk what debate you think i'm not weighing in on? did i miss some case talking about the same people again that significantly changes the landscape of the game or you just haven't read my posts?
That‘s fine as answer. I just don‘t get the sandro bit but we‘ll see how that evolves.
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On June 08 2024 08:06 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 04:31 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 08 2024 03:24 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote:On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town. So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?! Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town. you stole my story who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott? i'm bored of the scott conversation I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean what are you talking about regarding me? You said you liked rsoul read on me, then asked her what is the case against me. Explain I "like her read" (lets put it this way -- because i do not necessarily agree with it) on you because in my experience rsoultin hates lying and taking a stance like that (which is not completely unreasonable), points towards her being town. I mean i can go further into this if you want to, but i just dont think she would accuse town!sandroba as mafia!rsoultin (even less if youre both mafia) like that. Basically i don't agree with her, that what you said and did makes you mafia, but i think it makes her town. @Alakaslam, it looks like you are posting as you catch up, but just in case that isn't true, here is the post you said you wanted to see. I also bring this up to make a point about Kelsi3r. Raynpelikoneet does a very nice job of explaining how he can think someone is town due a read he doesn't agree with. My point though, is, see how it requires a meaningful explanation? Like without the explanation, it doesn't make sense. I can kinda understand Kelsi3r townreading AlphaZero for his scott31337 post, but I really can't understand townreading rsoultin for being interested in AlphaZero's scott31337 post. If he had an explanation that made it make sense I'd consider it, but he doesn't, his explanation is pretty weak imo, and not at all insightful. It's not that what Kelsi3r did is inherently scummy, it's that the way he went about it doesn't make sense. well said mofo - hat is my sentiment precisely . Rayn rsoultin read is also different as it's a meta read based on direct experience. Also I interpreted marv read me as townie lol!
Well said mofo lmfao what is this reply. Is that what mate autocorrects to in Australia these days.
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Maybe we just man up and lynch rayn here
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On June 09 2024 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Sexist
It's not sexist when he's a femboy
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For all we know copcake could be Rey mysterio wearing a wig
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Here's to hope the capacity to recognize obvious nonsense still exists while Oats tries to play something else than mafia.
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I realize marv could take that as offensive but I wouldn‘t bring such a joke towards marv, just rayn cause I presume he‘d laugh it off.
Gonna put Oats on ignore now I realize he‘s just here to be a fun killer and manipulate me with shit like that.
God that infuriates me.
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On June 09 2024 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m the fun killer???
Yeah you start bringing sexism into the game because I use the English language I am used to. Man up is common.
And you do so selectively. You don‘t complain about anyone being called a mofo either.
You‘re some dude who thinks he should infitrate games to sabotage a single person evidently. Regardless of his alignment.
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On June 09 2024 03:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 03:39 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m the fun killer??? Yeah you start bringing sexism into the game because I use the English language I am used to. Man up is common. And you do so selectively. You don‘t complain about anyone being called a mofo either. You‘re some dude who thinks he should infitrate games to sabotage a single person evidently. Regardless of his alignment. woosh
Yeah woosh thanks for ruining the mood. Now I can't even go on with the rayn prodding because you just had to go out and dig around in your box of -isms.
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On June 09 2024 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote: That sounds like a you problem
No that sounds like you can't distinguish between jokes in good and jokes in bad faith. I don't see yours as being made in good faith.
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On June 09 2024 04:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 03:33 Vivax wrote: I realize marv could take that as offensive but I wouldn‘t bring such a joke towards marv, just rayn cause I presume he‘d laugh it off.
Gonna put Oats on ignore now I realize he‘s just here to be a fun killer and manipulate me with shit like that.
God that infuriates me. I’m okay, promise :p
I'm glad about that. I get PTSD when I'm alone with Oats just casually dropping those remarks though.
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I literally go red and start fuming it's like I'm allergic to bull
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I might switch to Kelsier later. Purely because I'd still take the mafia who's trying over the town who isn't. But I haven't made my mind up about it and would like some more time.
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On June 07 2024 12:50 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 12:45 Trfel wrote:On June 07 2024 12:44 scott31337 wrote:On June 07 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote: The real question here is if we are lynching scott31337 today or waiting until tomorrow? Go find the real mafia. Unless you already know who they are  It would be easier if you would stop pretending to be mafia  Why tell me to go find mafia when you can (presumably) do it yourself? Scumslip See you already know I'm "pretending" to be mafia. I already know I'm town. Do you see me driving discussion? I've been looking since 10pm.
Was this scumslip thing serious?
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On June 08 2024 04:00 Kelsi3r wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 03:09 Trfel wrote:Worst List Post of All TimeTownMaybe Townrsoultin + Show Spoiler +It's very easy to follow her thought process. raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +Raynpelikoneet is generally helpful, but in this game, he's shown original/unique thought, as opposed to just "normal" lines of reasoning. Mocsta + Show Spoiler +This is a dangerous read since I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding what Mocsta is getting at sometimes and I don't have the focus to try and wade through it and actually figure it out, but I still like how Mocsta is very willing to go against the thread sentiment. Mafia can imitate this but I think it's much less likely. UnknownOatsmaster + Show Spoiler +Oatsmaster's posting has trended towards my expectations for him, as described here. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that means with regards to Oatsmaster's alignment. Congratulations on wasting your time reading this  scott31337 + Show Spoiler +Made you look  die_meatbaby sandroba marvellosity + Show Spoiler +I dunno. Really like his posting style, funniest person in the game by far. But I don't actually like this thoughts all that much, which makes me sad  Specifically the post on rsoultin that raynpelikoneet just quoted, I was going to say the same thing. It's very easy to point fingers and say "that person hasn't done anything yet!" when the person in question was only present for the first four and a half pages of the game, when there isn't that much to be done. It's hard for me to understand how marvellosity (of all people) could completely miss this. Feels like taking a cheap shot to discredit someone and make yourself look better. Vivax + Show Spoiler +He hasn't really made much of an impression to me yet, to be honest. AlphaZero + Show Spoiler +Not sure. Opening posts seem quite reasonable, but I have a much harder time following the thinking after. Maybe MafiaAlakaslam + Show Spoiler +On June 08 2024 02:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 22:47 Alakaslam wrote: Hijole how did I forget this
My work, my work! Don't post too much!
I shall return
When I come back, I expect to see much vote alakaslam based on this... but I can do no different! Uh, maybe I'm falling into the Chezinu trap with Alakaslam, but I actually think this is suspicious? Like, forgetting about the game or going to work or not posting isn't suspicious at all. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also, Alakaslam is one of those people who likes to post as mafia, so him not posting isn't a mafia indicator IMO regardless. What is suspicious is the self awareness. Specifically I am looking at a few games ago, it was a Grackaroni game where he invited everyone to the Discord server and Alakaslam was one of the first three people to join. So when three people joined, he thought that was the mafia Discord server and that he was mafia with them, and he said something like "I can't play for a few hours so go ahead and bus me for a while" which IMO doesn't make much sense, who pushes someone for being away for a few hours? But it shows that Alakaslam is exceptionally self-aware/self-conscious as mafia, particularly about activity levels. Unfortunately I can't say that Alakaslam isn't like this as town. I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has this mindset as town, but it's still possible. Regardless though I think it's worth keeping in mind. Kelsi3r + Show Spoiler +I admit that I struggled a bit to understand Kelsi3r and Mocsta's discussion but my initial point still stands. On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 16:44 Kelsi3r wrote: I enjoyed Alpha Zero pointing out that scott had basically answered his own question and giving it a red flag. I love shit like that. What does it say about scott? I don't know But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage.
Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over.
That's an ok starting point. Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious. If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place. And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however? New top suspect, I think. MafiaIdk, am I being too stubborn? I legitimately think that Kelsi3r is a valid suspect, and he hasn't done anything to give me pause yet. cant hate the amount of effort you put into this
This implies that he thought he should have had a reason to hate Trfel in the first place but Trfel is voting him so meh. Maybe other reasons than alignment.
It's like reading through someone slightly cooked.
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On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote: Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.
Put out someone or maybe even a few you're willing to lynch instead otherwise this isn't productive.
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On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote: I think vivax is easily mafia here though, he’s playing super scared to make posts and has resorted to posting inane townreads probably first good post from you, keep up! 
There's something comical in here I haven't quite decided what.
Maybe add Oats voting him now but iirc Oats was one of my 'inane townreads'.
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