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On June 21 2024 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also made a case on sandroba that nailed mafia, you had really hard time believing it. He was obviously being bussed that day. I mean how can you even say that because you didnt believe the case at all????????????????
Because dmb was bussing. So obviously mafia were bussing.
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Whatever I don’t want to argue with you cause I think you are mafia and it’s not fun for me.
If you are town I will reevaluate the case on Mocsta.
I’m not changing my vote unless something dramatic changes.
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On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:14 AlphaZero wrote: What happened to the read based on me telling you to go to sleep. That made me lock town 24 hours ago? it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase?
If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb.
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You not just doing the smart play and lynching the red check is fucking fatal. I can never think you are town after that. Maybe I am bad. So be it.
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I know you are an l e to explain away a lot of stuff.
But for good players they get caught on one or two small reasons.
That was my reason for you.
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On June 21 2024 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:14 AlphaZero wrote: What happened to the read based on me telling you to go to sleep. That made me lock town 24 hours ago? it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. really, is my play with dmb that we are gonna lynch slam???? without knowing koshi is actually the parity cop, evidenced by night kill. really that's your point?
Fuck off Rayn he said he wa parity cop before he flipped.
Then you get a nice lylo where we can’t confirm 100 percent which check is mafia and which is town.
That is mafia agenda
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On June 21 2024 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:28 AlphaZero wrote: You not just doing the smart play and lynching the red check is fucking fatal. I can never think you are town after that. Maybe I am bad. So be it. This i can understand from town pov. Unfortunately it didn't came out earlier, for you.
Unlike you I literally do not give a fuck if I am lynched here. Cause I think the game is solved.
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On June 21 2024 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:It's okay DP. I will die, then you will die. We were both bad or i was good. 
Yep well then we were both bad.
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On June 21 2024 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:14 AlphaZero wrote: What happened to the read based on me telling you to go to sleep. That made me lock town 24 hours ago? it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. really, is my play with dmb that we are gonna lynch slam???? without knowing koshi is actually the parity cop, evidenced by night kill. really that's your point? Fuck off Rayn he said he wa parity cop before he flipped. Then you get a nice lylo where we can’t confirm 100 percent which check is mafia and which is town. That is mafia agenda He said he was parity cop on the day we lynched dmb, and i put my vote on mocsta. what are you trying to argue? that people would go with me over claimed cop? or what?
I’m explaining why not lynching red check dmb was mafia agenda. Which you should know already
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On June 21 2024 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:28 AlphaZero wrote: You not just doing the smart play and lynching the red check is fucking fatal. I can never think you are town after that. Maybe I am bad. So be it. This i can understand from town pov. Unfortunately it didn't came out earlier, for you. Unlike you I literally do not give a fuck if I am lynched here. Cause I think the game is solved. ah using the argument you called me mafia for. 
You do care if you are lynched.
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On June 21 2024 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:34 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. really, is my play with dmb that we are gonna lynch slam???? without knowing koshi is actually the parity cop, evidenced by night kill. really that's your point? Fuck off Rayn he said he wa parity cop before he flipped. Then you get a nice lylo where we can’t confirm 100 percent which check is mafia and which is town. That is mafia agenda He said he was parity cop on the day we lynched dmb, and i put my vote on mocsta. what are you trying to argue? that people would go with me over claimed cop? or what? I’m explaining why not lynching red check dmb was mafia agenda. Which you should know already why exactly was it mafia agenda? explain, because i have not seen that. note that dmb was not even red check.
No I already explained the fact you don’t get it is damning.
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I’m out .
Just dump your reads with simple reasoning if you are town.
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On June 21 2024 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:14 AlphaZero wrote: What happened to the read based on me telling you to go to sleep. That made me lock town 24 hours ago? it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. No DP, this is all bad shit. If i get Mocsta lynched and he flips town, then the red check DMB is gonna get lynched 100% of the time next day, and then rayn is gonna get lynched 1000000% next day... Everyone knows this, we dont get "nice lylo", we are fucked because i voted against a cop check i allowed lol :D You may not wanna talk with me, fine. So your vote is wasted. Maybe the best thing is to vote for you. Not really looking good for you.
why not lynch slam? you can argue your way out of anything.
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On June 21 2024 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:52 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:14 AlphaZero wrote: What happened to the read based on me telling you to go to sleep. That made me lock town 24 hours ago? it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. No DP, this is all bad shit. If i get Mocsta lynched and he flips town, then the red check DMB is gonna get lynched 100% of the time next day, and then rayn is gonna get lynched 1000000% next day... Everyone knows this, we dont get "nice lylo", we are fucked because i voted against a cop check i allowed lol :D You may not wanna talk with me, fine. So your vote is wasted. Maybe the best thing is to vote for you. Not really looking good for you. why not lynch slam? you can argue your way out of anything. really, your argument is that i did that shit to lynch slam???????????
No i think you did it because there were angles to win this phase. Mafia always want to rush this shit.
And if you are trying to convince me of something, incorrectly calling me mafia is not it. FWIW.
Your "lock mocsta read" was piss in the wind apparently.
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On June 21 2024 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Jesus fuck these DP reasnoings keep getting worse and worse. 
Do they really though?
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On June 21 2024 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:52 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. No DP, this is all bad shit. If i get Mocsta lynched and he flips town, then the red check DMB is gonna get lynched 100% of the time next day, and then rayn is gonna get lynched 1000000% next day... Everyone knows this, we dont get "nice lylo", we are fucked because i voted against a cop check i allowed lol :D You may not wanna talk with me, fine. So your vote is wasted. Maybe the best thing is to vote for you. Not really looking good for you. why not lynch slam? you can argue your way out of anything. really, your argument is that i did that shit to lynch slam??????????? No i think you did it because there were angles to win this phase. Mafia always want to rush this shit. And if you are trying to convince me of something, incorrectly calling me mafia is not it. FWIW. Your "lock mocsta read" was piss in the wind apparently. same goes to you bud. yeah i had "lock mocsta read". i dont anymore. is that scummy for you?
Yes cause you wanted to vote him over a red check last phase.
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Feel free to try and lynch me. I really don't care at this point. the game isn't fun or engaging when i just have to argue with you in circles.
You are trying to win the argument, not solve. therefore, you are mafia.
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On June 21 2024 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:52 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:18 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] it disappeared when you started saying stupid shit when it started to matter. Maybe it’s confirmation bias but what I see is: Fail to get traction on Mocsta wagon. Town read Scott and then try and scum read Scott’s top scum read all game to form another counter wagon . Despite fucking wanting to lynch Mocsta over a red check last phase. Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. No DP, this is all bad shit. If i get Mocsta lynched and he flips town, then the red check DMB is gonna get lynched 100% of the time next day, and then rayn is gonna get lynched 1000000% next day... Everyone knows this, we dont get "nice lylo", we are fucked because i voted against a cop check i allowed lol :D You may not wanna talk with me, fine. So your vote is wasted. Maybe the best thing is to vote for you. Not really looking good for you. why not lynch slam? you can argue your way out of anything. really, your argument is that i did that shit to lynch slam??????????? No i think you did it because there were angles to win this phase. Mafia always want to rush this shit. And if you are trying to convince me of something, incorrectly calling me mafia is not it. FWIW. Your "lock mocsta read" was piss in the wind apparently. how am i rushing this shit?
You admitting you are mafia hey?
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On June 21 2024 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 08:59 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:52 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:27 AlphaZero wrote:On June 21 2024 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2024 08:19 AlphaZero wrote: [quote]
Explain this from a town point of view. it is very simple. I scum read Mocsta. You post stupid shit, you dont try to explain why i am wrong on my read, you dont try to get me anywhere, you just tell me i am mafia over and over again for no reason. You agree with Mocsta on everything, even the stuff that should make you scumread him even a little bit. But no, it is just rayn is mafia because what.. Koshi said so and no smart stuff... Sure there is no smart stuff when you have to lynch me and you dont wanna make enemies. Why are you bringing up Mocsta over red check last phase? I think even Mocsta can understand that (since he is not using it against me). Why are you using all the stupid shit against me? All the stuff i have already answered. What is my mafia motivation to lynch Mocsta over DMB last phase? If Mocsta is town then you get a nice lylo with a parity cop check between slam and dmb. No DP, this is all bad shit. If i get Mocsta lynched and he flips town, then the red check DMB is gonna get lynched 100% of the time next day, and then rayn is gonna get lynched 1000000% next day... Everyone knows this, we dont get "nice lylo", we are fucked because i voted against a cop check i allowed lol :D You may not wanna talk with me, fine. So your vote is wasted. Maybe the best thing is to vote for you. Not really looking good for you. why not lynch slam? you can argue your way out of anything. really, your argument is that i did that shit to lynch slam??????????? No i think you did it because there were angles to win this phase. Mafia always want to rush this shit. And if you are trying to convince me of something, incorrectly calling me mafia is not it. FWIW. Your "lock mocsta read" was piss in the wind apparently. same goes to you bud. yeah i had "lock mocsta read". i dont anymore. is that scummy for you? Yes cause you wanted to vote him over a red check last phase. point it to me like i was five. if it somehow miraculously happened that we lynched mocsta over dmb, how would it change the course of the game?
then its 2-3 we have two people who could be mafia Slam and DMB
we have me and scott and who have called each other mafia all game
there are chances that we decide to lynch slam over dmb, there are chances that I try to lynch scott, or scott tries to lynch me,
and all you need is for one townie to fuck up at the end.
So yeah, seems fairly mafia aligned to me.
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On June 21 2024 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2024 09:01 AlphaZero wrote: Feel free to try and lynch me. I really don't care at this point. the game isn't fun or engaging when i just have to argue with you in circles.
You are trying to win the argument, not solve. therefore, you are mafia.
and now i am gonna say AtE. fuck you for saying that shit when i have gone through your arguments on me being mafia, and then your response is that i am just mafia for the same arguments again and not telling why my response is bad.
I am very deliberately avoiding getting into an argument of semantics with you because.
1.) i don't think that alters if you are mafia or not if you win an argument on semantics
2.) its a huge time sink and frankly not that enjoyable.
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