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On June 08 2024 10:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:21 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 10:15 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:06 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 10:04 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:02 rsoultin wrote:
okay, who i'm not lynching today:
scott, oats, truffle, mocsta, marv
my weakest townreads of those is scott but i get where he's coming from on too many things and i don't like too many people pushing him
everything else is negotiable. i think i'd prefer to lynch into sandy, kelsier and viva
rayn and az i'm not comfy with but don't want to lynch cause i don't trust i'm not just being overly paranoid with them
slam and dmb i don't particularly care about though i'm inclined to sheep marv's sheeping rayn on the slam read why don´t you care about me  cause you haven't posted enough for me to get any sort of read on? i'll let you know if and when that changes why do you think you are paranoid about az? I have this problem with rayn that in every fucking game that we are playing I am reading him wrong. He is mafia I think he is town and the other way around. So it´s really very hard for me to make a opinion on him and i am Paranoid as hell as soon as I think i found his aligment. He is a strong town player but sadly also a strong mafia player. I am scared to make a read on him especially when it´s this early in the game lol same regarding rayn well az reminds me of another player whose scum game consists of buddying top townies (and by this i mean the 'good players' the community here generally listens to) and crawling so far up their asses he goes under the radar. idk that this is the same player but the interchange with marv is giving me those vibes. tbc marv is good, but i guess i mean the people who have the most pull if people are reading them town now i don't know that az's the same person or not so that's not reason enough to scumread him at all. but his view of the game also isn't aligning with mine on several fronts so those two things together earns him the rayn tier of i don't fucking know. i'm hoping if he's town that'll become clear in further discussion lol >< im ok with rayn at this point, mainly because the direction he is leading conversations seem to have aligned with my own points of curiosity. on the other hand i have noticed he appears to be lurking a fair bit (i.e. post increase times with when upper tier players are around). that in itself is not scummy at this point in the game although should be monitored each day as it will increasingly become scummy if activity and direction of conversation diminishes. az, i havent changed my mind on, just view it as desctructive to pursue this cycle.
this is interesting. i know he already said he'd have spotty activity this weekend but it continues to give me good feels about you
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On June 08 2024 10:55 rsoultin wrote:
tbf this is largely how i make reads on people, discussing the entire game with others in thread rather than just focusing on today's lynch? but point taken. don't want to make the thread completely unreadable I think it depends on how much time there is until the lynch, imo when it gets closer to the lynch it's helpful to focus a bit. Night 1 I'd be more than happy to talk about anything and everything.
On June 08 2024 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way. I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though? I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him. It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.
Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen. Pls feel free to explain What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets. Make your stance on alphazeros alignment please the waffle is tiresome I don't have much to discuss about AlphaZero. I kinda think they are town but it's a weak read. I generally don't like to talk about townreads, especially not weak ones. How have I been waffling on AlphaZero, of all people, since I haven't said anything about them?
On June 08 2024 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way. I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though? I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him. It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.
Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen. Pls feel free to explain What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets. Why are you conflicted about me? You’ve said this a couple times but haven’t expanded with posts or reasoning The issue is that your playstyle, seemingly regardless of alignment, seems scummy to me. This makes it hard to figure out if you are town or mafia, because you always seem scummy. I'm trying to work on it but unfortunately I can't magically get better.
Honestly I don't know. You're going to have to live with that, I am not going to make something up.
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I should add, it's different if you have something to discuss about AlphaZero. I'm happy to discuss them if you have legit reasons. I just don't think this is the right time for nebulous, ungrounded paranoia. And I don't have any legit reasons.
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On June 08 2024 11:05 Trfel wrote:
I should add, it's different if you have something to discuss about AlphaZero. I'm happy to discuss them if you have legit reasons. I just don't think this is the right time for nebulous, ungrounded paranoia. And I don't have any legit reasons.
this is a nitpick, genuinely sorry.. what did you mean by "they" in your previous post
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Somehow I hold the belief that if I asked Oats his name in a normal situation I‘d hear him say ‚Hi, I‘m Oafsmaftqh‘ based on his performance in this game.
He has this passive aggressiveness about him and then we have AZ trying to fire him up in very obvious manipulation attempts that are almost comical in their obviousness but the best part is that they seem to work.
Maybe he even believes that he doesn‘t live in a fascist oligarchy and that a red man brings him presents at christmas.
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On June 08 2024 11:02 Trfel wrote:
I don't have much to discuss about AlphaZero. I kinda think [b]they]/b] are town but it's a weak read.
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On June 08 2024 11:12 Vivax wrote:
Somehow I hold the belief that if I asked Oats his name in a normal situation I‘d hear him say ‚Hi, I‘m Oafsmaftqh‘ based on his performance in this game.
He has this passive aggressiveness about him and then we have AZ trying to fire him up in very obvious manipulation attempts that are almost comical in their obviousness but the best part is that they seem to work.
Maybe he even believes that he doesn‘t live in a fascist oligarchy and that a red man brings him presents at christmas.
where are you at on the people who didn't vote to lynch you?
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On June 08 2024 11:02 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:55 rsoultin wrote:
tbf this is largely how i make reads on people, discussing the entire game with others in thread rather than just focusing on today's lynch? but point taken. don't want to make the thread completely unreadable I think it depends on how much time there is until the lynch, imo when it gets closer to the lynch it's helpful to focus a bit. Night 1 I'd be more than happy to talk about anything and everything.
Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way. I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though? I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him. It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.
Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen. Pls feel free to explain What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets. Make your stance on alphazeros alignment please the waffle is tiresome I don't have much to discuss about AlphaZero. I kinda think they are town but it's a weak read. I generally don't like to talk about townreads, especially not weak ones. How have I been waffling on AlphaZero, of all people, since I haven't said anything about them?
Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 10:51 Trfel wrote:My main worry with Kelsi3r is that I worry I just bullied him out of the thread. Which wasn't my intention at all, but I could see the possibility of him taking it that way. I don't really think any other lynch makes sense right now though? I'm conflicted/unsure about Oatsmaster, a lot of people think he is town though. I'm hesitant to lynch scott31337. I think die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, sandroba, marvellosity, and Vivax would benefit from more time. Mocsta too, but I think it's a little easier to read him. It's a combination of Kelsi3r looking really suspicious and no one else looking like a sensible lynch target. Lynching scott31337 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world I guesssss but it would be very far from ideal imo.
On June 08 2024 10:45 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote:
Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1.
Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen. Pls feel free to explain What part do you want me to explain? People haven't talked about suspecting AlphaZero very much so far. Most of what people have shared is that they are inclined to think they are town, tbh. So I think it's pretty ambitious to expect people's minds to change that dramatically, that quickly. Like, it takes time for discussion to happen and for people to share ideas. Also, it's typical to lynch a less active/involved player on Day 1, it's not a rule, it's just much more common. AlphaZero doesn't fit that mold. Those things combined make me think that realistically, AlphaZero is extremely unlikely to be lynched today, so with the deadline coming up, I'd rather start to focus on people who are more realistic targets. Why are you conflicted about me? You’ve said this a couple times but haven’t expanded with posts or reasoning The issue is that your playstyle, seemingly regardless of alignment, seems scummy to me. This makes it hard to figure out if you are town or mafia, because you always seem scummy. I'm trying to work on it but unfortunately I can't magically get better. Honestly I don't know. You're going to have to live with that, I am not going to make something up.
You literally keep saying “oh maybe we shouldn’t discuss alphazero because he’s not a lynch target today” which doesn’t make sense if you even think he’s slightly town??
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On June 07 2024 14:09 Trfel wrote:
I think the whisperer mechanic favors skill most of all. It can be powerful or negligible for either alignment, honestly it just depends on how effectively it is used. It's possibly a little easier for town to get value from it, though.
Has it been confirmed that AlphaZero is indeed a smurf? Or is our community so dead that we can't possibly have just gotten a new player?
My sources say he‘s a pimp in south korea. He also pimps electronically.
My sources are the voices in my head I don‘t have any tbh but it‘s better than calling them wild guesses.
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Gender neutral he/him, trying to respect the smurf-ness. At least in the US they made they acceptable as singular a while back.
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The issue is that your playstyle, seemingly regardless of alignment, seems scummy to me. This makes it hard to figure out if you are town or mafia, because you always seem scummy. I'm trying to work on it but unfortunately I can't magically get better.
Literally no reasons here why I’m scummy. You can do better than that
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On June 08 2024 11:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 11:12 Vivax wrote:
Somehow I hold the belief that if I asked Oats his name in a normal situation I‘d hear him say ‚Hi, I‘m Oafsmaftqh‘ based on his performance in this game.
He has this passive aggressiveness about him and then we have AZ trying to fire him up in very obvious manipulation attempts that are almost comical in their obviousness but the best part is that they seem to work.
Maybe he even believes that he doesn‘t live in a fascist oligarchy and that a red man brings him presents at christmas. where are you at on the people who didn't vote to lynch you?
I don‘t know yet I‘m currently reviewing this game and submitting my posts to an ethics commission to be approved.
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On June 08 2024 09:42 Trfel wrote:
AlphaZero, have you played much with scott31337?
No
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is there anything that can be made of the lack of mason claim?
to me: i assume scum received whisper and did not use
- main reason being, either mason that is town i believe should have claimed to close out loop with scott situation. by now, there is sufficient reactions / discussion in place that this would be beneficial to town. i have to assume all town would recognise that.
does this point out anything about the scum team?
perhaps that upper tier / mechanic focused player is part of it?
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@Oatsmaster, can you read in context? I was talking to people who are suspicious of AlphaZero, hence my posts.
Yes I could say reasons why you could be mafia but how is that productive if I don't know if it makes you mafia? Like why would I do that?
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On June 08 2024 11:29 Mocsta wrote:
is there anything that can be made of the lack of mason claim?
to me: i assume scum received whisper and did not use
- main reason being, either mason that is town i believe should have claimed to close out loop with scott situation. by now, there is sufficient reactions / discussion in place that this would be beneficial to town. i have to assume all town would recognise that.
does this point out anything about the scum team?
perhaps that upper tier / mechanic focused player is part of it?
oh i didn't catch that this was at the start of each day...good point. i don't see any reason to keep it quiet either. doesn't mean there aren't any but i don't see it
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On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 20:05 Kelsi3r wrote:On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote:
How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3rFor being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate
Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo.
Town points if you see what I see.
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it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative
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On June 08 2024 11:34 Trfel wrote:
@Oatsmaster, can you read in context? I was talking to people who are suspicious of AlphaZero, hence my posts.
Yes I could say reasons why you could be mafia but how is that productive if I don't know if it makes you mafia? Like why would I do that?
? Why are you stopping discussion of someone you don’t have a solid read on then?
Because we can determine if those reasons are good enough? Are you seriously asking why it’s good to explain a read?
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On June 08 2024 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
it being scum who got it seems a reasonable assumption but inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many assumptions/points of failure? like you could just as easily argue that weak scum players might not want the sort of scrutiny that could come from sitting in a mason qt with a townie who knows for sure it's not alignment indicative
Not really sure why you don’t think that’s a strong indicator one of the scum players isn’t confident
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