EPTOn June 19 2024 18:10 AlphaZero wrote:
We both think you are mafia or Scott is if you flip green.
We both think you are mafia or Scott is if you flip green.
Ah its the "when rayn does i its scummy but we do it also"
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Ah its the "when rayn does i its scummy but we do it also" | ||
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Also Scott can you sum up your points why i am mafia? | ||
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No but for real i am busy until evening. From my pov i have done more solving in last couple of days than all of you together, i mught even "fuck you sll" you all but that epuld let you win so idk yet.. | ||
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Would you think, if scott or slam (without the check), is mafia, if they had my filter? Which of your points are rayn-specific and which are universal mafia tells? | ||
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So i decided to post in a way that i have been flamed for -- for thinking that type of posting comes from mafia, especially in the last game's obs QT. Notice that this is not saying i am playing intentionally bad, i just leave things that dont matter unsaid, and if i dont want to, or feel like to talk with someone i wont. This includes also stuff like no activity on weekends (also because i had no time past couple of weekends), only thing i didn't get to yet this game, is making arbitrary lists of no use, but i'll get to that next game. I dont really wanna talk about D1 or N1 because unless scott is mafia, everything is just a waste of space, and if scott is mafia then i am not mafia so who the fuck cares. I really had my most enjoyable times in this game D2-N2 talking with AZ, while a big lot of it was just him calling me mafia. But we DID have some nice conversations!! I again lost interest at some point when Trfel started calling me mafia with stuff like "you have not said anything smart", then i counter with "look Trfel, even if these things are wrong they are pretty damn smart -- backed up by other people, mainly AZ", and his response is "you havent said anything smart".... Maybe i am too old, but i dont really have any interest talking to rocks anymore, let alone convincing them. I don't understand where this thing is coming from, that i am trying to take so "scummy credit" from sandroba's lynch (mainly pushed by mocsta)? It is literally bullshit argument. The only thing i have ever said about that, is that i pushed sandroba when everyone was on vivax, while telling (AZ) that case on vivax is bad. Idk how i am "using my credit in different way than Koshi is". it doesnt even make any sense. Only way Koshi thought DMB is mafia is because he had a check, and i told Slam is 100% town. Just read the game, you can read it there, because Koshi thought Slam is mafia!! Then people (Koshi too!!!) start claiming that me, and me alone (apparently) was the reason DMB didn't get lynched D3. Sure, if you wanna call me mafia for not getting Koshi's soft claim, then yeah you can blame me. Here is the votecount at the time i voted though: On June 15 2024 09:19 Grackaroni wrote: Day Three Vote Count Vivax(3): AlphaZero, Trfel, raynpelikoneet AlphaZero (2); Scott31337 die_meatbaby (1): Koshi, Trfel (1): Alakaslam Scott31337 (1): Mocsta (0): Not Voting (1): Mocsta With 3 votes, Vivax is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in I clearly said i need to go, and i will not vote for vivax over DMB (before my vote here). AZ told me to go to sleep and not worry about it, which is the biggest reason i town read him, and that's the reason i voted for vivax over him. I do not think he would do that as mafia, rather than get me to vote for vivax to save himself. It was a nice play if he actually did it as mafia, but i don't think so, also as i said before my vote, all the scummy people were voting for AZ (mocsta, DMB, scott). I did not vote for vivax to save dmb, i voted vivax to save AZ, when the sentiment already turned into vivax vs AZ. I dont know why Koshi is blaming me for that, when basically everyone else is more to "blame".... I made a decision between my two town reads, AZ read more town. It's also a bit confusing that at least Koshi seemed to be thinking, that i managed to figure out he is a power role enough to roleblock him, but not enough to kill him?!?!? :D I mean like i made a mistake, the biggest mistake i made this game, to not realise Koshi is a parity cop with checks on DMB and Slam. Yeah i missed it. But like if i am mafia with DMB, i make the deduction that Koshi is a power role (knowing DMB is mafia), and then i do not kill him?? I think it's a very absurd claim to say i am smart enough to figure out PR, but dumb enough not to kill them (nobody would have cared about DMB without full claim from Koshi lol). Sure him flipping PC would do the same thing, but you remove confirmed town from the game instead of what... Trfel, who just fucked up the DMB lynch all by himself? Also if i know that, why do i whiteknight Slam at that point? Talking about that, Koshi also said i am mafia because i "bluehunted Slam". I never bluehunted Slam. I knew Slam is not blue when he ragequitted, the only reason i asked if he was blue is because if he claimed blue he would be mafia. It is just as simple as that, and Slam knows that as well. If Slam was blue he would have claimed instead of asking for replacement. If he says this is not true, then he is probably godfather or just really fucking stupid... I also see people calling me mafia for "not voting the confirmed mafia". Well first of all that confirmed mafia is mostly confirmed because of me (as i whiteknighted Slam -- EVEN TO AZ!!!). Secondly, if we have one mislynch, who the fuck cares if i vote anyone in the three people containing two mafia? Why possibly would i do that as mafia? Mafia is all about posturing, why do i "un-pose"? It's a fucking stupid argument, apparently even AZ took that... idk what to think of that, i dont think he is mafia but if he is mafia he is mafia definitely for that. I had my reasons for "trying" that, scott passed. It doesnt mean he is town but it definitely doesnt make him mafia, which it could if he was not smart. That's why i did the things i did. Lynch me if you lynch me, i am not mafia. --------------------------------------------------- Now for why Mocsta is mafia though: I could get into all shit what other people did but it's unfair, so i just stick with Mocsta. On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote: Why does everyone keep posting combos We don't have the flips for association keep this in mind at first. and this: On June 10 2024 13:05 Mocsta wrote: Is Sandroba at risk of inactivity modkill? Last post greater than 48hrs ago. and this: On June 10 2024 18:31 Mocsta wrote: Rayn keeps getting pushed by my subconscious Can't articulate. Just keep getting vision he is the key to this game And then it is where Mocsta starts 100% following Trfel. First case on Vivax, no doubt, perfect case, gogo! Then he has some interaction with sandroba. What's weird about that interaction is that [b]he has no intention in asking anything about Vivax, who is he voting for atm]/b], but rather about AZ and scott who noone is interested in. And then it starts, warming up on rayn wagon. Now this is the biggest mistake he made. On we go and: Super big defense on sandroba starting from his this post in his talk with Oats. | ||
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Fro Mocsta's perspective: 1) sandroba isn't doing anything at all (based on convo with Oats) 2) rayn isn't doing anything but pushing sandroba --> rayn is mafia.... First of all this is very fucking convoluted decision in the first place, but i kind of think a townie could make that. What i don't think townie can do however, is this: On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote: dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more that's all he has? this is 100% mafia agenda knowing sandrobas alignment. Furthermore: On June 11 2024 22:14 Mocsta wrote: I can't vote Sandro because of rayn being on the train r Okay.. but then, when the thread sentiment shifts, and Trfel votes for sandroba (real kicker): On June 11 2024 23:34 Mocsta wrote: I think the best way to unite town is to have 2 wagons to gauge buy in and then merge into one wagon (somehow...) I will join my town reads if it leads to majority My town reads are Trfel Oats Sandroba Az Vivax And I'm willing to work with scott This doesnt even go with what he last said, and then the story changes again: On June 12 2024 02:59 Mocsta wrote: you're better than that my pov: rayn is guaranteed has to be scum between dmb/sandro as for whoever noted the ZERO interactions between dmb/sandro.. like both are afk lets check who they have talked to (either question to player; or quoted the player) to be honest, im mostly surprised sandroba has not interacted with AZ this cycle.. doesnt feel legit so i double checked the filter and its true sandroba -> oats: d1 no, d2 yes -> trfel: d1 yes, d2 yes -> rsoultin: d1 yes -> koshi: d2 yes --> scott: d1 yes, d2 yes -> dmb: d1 no, d2 no -> slam: d1 no, d2 yes -> marv: d1 yes -> kelsi3r: d1 yes -> mocsta: d1 yes, d2 yes -> vivax: d1 yes, d2 no -> az: d1 yes, d2 no dmb -> oats: d1 yes, d2 no -> trfel: d1 yes, d2 yes -> rsoultin: d1 yes -> koshi: d2 yes --> scott: d1 yes, d2 yes -> sandroba: d1 no, d2 no -> slam: d1 no, d2 no -> marv: d1 yes -> kelsi3r: d1 no -> mocsta: d1 yes, d2 yes -> vivax: d1 yes, d2 yes -> az: d1 yes, d2 yes notice this post. "rayn is guaranteed mafia, there has to be mafia within sandroba and dmb". It's a no contest, when he reads sandroba as town..... me and dmb are mafia. where is the argument on that? why point out a stupid connection that he said he is not ding in the first place???? why leave ME, his biggest scumread out, of the chart that is supposed to POINT OUT WHO I AM MAFIA WITH?????????? | ||
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On June 10 2024 12:29 Mocsta wrote: Why does everyone keep posting combos We don't have the flips for association | ||
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On June 12 2024 02:07 Mocsta wrote: There *HAS* to be scum between DMB/Sandroba.. im going to lose my hair if both are town [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:22 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:14 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Does that mean then you think DMB is town, if mafia "has chosen" to lynch sandroba?[/QUOTE]I don't think it's set in stone. There was much better push pull lynch resistance today, although majority from my town reads. Maybe I have the game flipped upside down. I can cop that on the chin. But maybe I am reading the game by Poe well too In that case was dmb a legit counter wagon?.. I don't believe so. Dmb wagon never picked up and never got buy in to pick up so I don' believe the game go to the point of truly testing this. Mafia controlled this vote and sandroba is a mislynch. That's my take. The only small BS reality I could tinfoil entertain is sandroba was legit modkill and scum wanted bus cred [/QUOTE] Thane why do you even say "one of DMB/sandroba is mafia", because in your world sandroba is NOT MAFIA!!![/QUOTE]I don't say that. I have 4 reasons for sandroba to be town and the primary was trust in az.. sandroba is in my town Poe , and stealing. From your book, the caveat is at the bottom of my poe Lots of skim reading by you continuously Why everyone else ignores, Idk[/QUOTE] Literally you said that when you put him in town list. [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:59 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:50 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:44 Oatsmaster wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 10:39 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam die_meatbaby (3): Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Vivax (0): Koshi (0): scott31337 (0): [/QUOTE]in my world.view sandroba is more likely to flip town and the by votes I need to look into slam and what led him to +1 sandroba[/QUOTE] Why are you not coloring Sandro green[/QUOTE]Cos he's not lock He's not null but I won't go to death with him like I would with you [/QUOTE] But you colored rayn and koshi red with the assumption that Sandro is green[/QUOTE]ermmm. If I understand right You believe I associate Rayn/koshi as scum be ause they are voting snadroba? If so..that's not the case They are red to me because of approach to d2. Sandroba is part of that because of their votes, but it's more than that too..contributions to culture, inauthentic takes, no big dick energy etc [/QUOTE] Then during N2 Mocsta's p16 of filter is just... fucking disgusting... Just to throw everything away as soon as an opportunity reaches him. Koshi town, rayn town, Vivax mafia. Just to drop that the next day. | ||
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If so..that's not the case They are red to me because of approach to d2. | ||
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As mafia it makes sense, because he wants to be in good moods with the people like Trfel who have influence (and Koshi as later). It is so ¨transparent it almost makes me laugh... because like look at the fucking filter of his??? | ||
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"rayn is always mafia, sandroba could be mafia with rayn. never voting anyone but rayn" sandroba flips mafia --> "ohhh maybe rayn is town" D2 Mocsta tried really hard going against town, rayn and koshi. period. | ||
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