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On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count
die_meatbaby (4): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax
Not Voting (1): Mocsta
With 4 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
I think this is wrong.
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On June 15 2024 09:07 Vivax wrote:
Ah yes he voted dmb but if he gets lynched he wants vivax and scott…
He‘s shouting it from the rooftops that his vote isn‘t even on hos scumread right now
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I legitimately think vivax is more likely mafia than Scott.
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I have given my reasoning for why Mocsta is mafia and i don't really care that much anymore because i am talking to bunch of rocks, so i am just gonna see what is the best options of what is "available". Already spent too much time D2 talking about why obvious mafia is obvious mafia, and even that almost went to waste. If people wanna throw the game be my guest. I am not staying up until 5am every day just to get ignored asnd called stupid.
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On June 15 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2024 09:07 Vivax wrote:
Ah yes he voted dmb but if he gets lynched he wants vivax and scott… He‘s shouting it from the rooftops that his vote isn‘t even on hos scumread right now
It’s wrong, the vote count.
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On June 15 2024 09:09 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count
die_meatbaby (4): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax
Not Voting (1): Mocsta
With 4 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
I think this is wrong.
Which vote?
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On June 15 2024 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have given my reasoning for why Mocsta is mafia and i don't really care that much anymore because i am talking to bunch of rocks, so i am just gonna see what is the best options of what is "available". Already spent too much time D2 talking about why obvious mafia is obvious mafia, and even that almost went to waste. If people wanna throw the game be my guest. I am not staying up until 5am every day just to get ignored asnd called stupid.
No one is ignoring you or calling you stupid. I was on your wagon sheeping you and you just dropped it for dmb. And here we are.
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On June 15 2024 09:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2024 09:09 AlphaZero wrote:On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count
die_meatbaby (4): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax
Not Voting (1): Mocsta
With 4 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
I think this is wrong. Which vote?
Mine.
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On June 15 2024 09:11 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2024 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have given my reasoning for why Mocsta is mafia and i don't really care that much anymore because i am talking to bunch of rocks, so i am just gonna see what is the best options of what is "available". Already spent too much time D2 talking about why obvious mafia is obvious mafia, and even that almost went to waste. If people wanna throw the game be my guest. I am not staying up until 5am every day just to get ignored asnd called stupid. No one is ignoring you or calling you stupid. I was on your wagon sheeping you and you just dropped it for dmb. And here we are.
There was and there will not be support if there is no Koshi or Trfel.
I simply dont have time or energy to fight with them on obvious things.
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On June 15 2024 09:11 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2024 09:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2024 09:09 AlphaZero wrote:On June 15 2024 09:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count
die_meatbaby (4): Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Mocsta, Scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax
AlphaZero (3); Scott31337, Mocsta, Mocsta, Vivax, die_meatbaby, Vivax, Mocsta, Scott31337
Trfel (1): Alakaslam
Scott31337 (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Alakaslam
Mocsta (0): die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Alakaslam, Vivax
Not Voting (1): Mocsta
With 4 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
I think this is wrong. Which vote? Mine.
Got it. Edited.
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On June 15 2024 09:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2024 08:57 Trfel wrote:On June 15 2024 08:54 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2024 08:53 Trfel wrote:On June 15 2024 08:51 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2024 08:48 Trfel wrote:On June 15 2024 08:44 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2024 08:42 Trfel wrote:On June 15 2024 08:37 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2024 08:36 Trfel wrote:
[quote]What did I do this time? Say I want to lynch you? No you only look at surface level stuff. Or how compliant players are to your demands So if I were to translate from Vivax-speak, you're mad because I am ignoring your filter-length-town argument and am trying to gauge how much support there is for different lynches? When it's barely two hours until a deadline? I gave you the reasons for me scumreading az in discord Don‘t act like I didn‘t when you didn‘t give any evaluation on them. Uh, what? First, that has nothing to do with it, and second, I said that I looked into it and your reasons didn't make any sense? didn‘t make any sense *to you* see what I mean by entitlement How else am I supposed to evaluate something? "Okay well this makes no sense to me but lemme get my buddy over here to see if it makes sense to them" Like isn't that cheating? Most of scumhunting is best done by gut the limitation is that we aren‘t able to put gut into words Maybe that's how it works for you, but that's not how it works for me. You attacked my character, then attacked my reads, then lied about me not responding to your reasons to suspect AlphaZero, and now you're accusing me of not using my gut to find mafia? Where on earth are you going with this?!?!! What is the point? I have no idea what you're trying to say, it seems like you are making up reasons to attack me and whenever I address them, you're deflecting and coming from a different angle? But we aren't lynching Vivax? I don‘t follow scripts or play the game like you think I should so if you just block off my attempts to work together with you by saying silly things like I‘m scum because I don‘t talk to you immediately you leave me with no choice but to question you in many different manners Look, I don't have any "characterizations" or "expectations" for your play. I have been trying all day phase to work with you.
For the thread, here's some of the (extremely limited) discussion in our whisperer Discord channel. Paraphrased ofc because it has to be.
Trfel: Vivax, why is AlphaZero mafia?
Vivax: no reason he is town, lets other people affect his reads, holier-than-thou tone, changed his sandroba read exactly when rsoultin scumread him and not before
Trfel: can't find the sandroba read change in question. Not sure why changing his reads based on what other people say is scummy.
Vivax: search my filter for these words, you'll found it
Trfel: I found it, but this read change was after rsoultin said AlphaZero was probably town
Vivax: doesn't matter, AlphaZero had sandroba as his top town read, then rsoultin called AlphaZero mafia, then AlphaZero backed off on his townread on sandroba. Basically the fact that rsoultin scumread AlphaZero made AlphaZero change his read on sandroba.
Trfel: I don't think that's what happened
no further responses from Vivax on this subject
First, Vivax's account of the timing of these things happening was straight up wrong. Second, why would rsoultin slightly suspecting AlphaZero, and then eventually saying that AlphaZero is probably town, make AlphaZero change his read on sandroba even after rsoultin said AlphaZero is probably town?
And then, Vivax lied and said I didn't respond about his reasoning, when I literally did, I looked up all the quotes he mentioned and it didn't make any sense to me, so I told him this?
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On June 15 2024 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have given my reasoning for why Mocsta is mafia and i don't really care that much anymore because i am talking to bunch of rocks, so i am just gonna see what is the best options of what is "available". Already spent too much time D2 talking about why obvious mafia is obvious mafia, and even that almost went to waste. If people wanna throw the game be my guest. I am not staying up until 5am every day just to get ignored asnd called stupid.
I have not called you stupid - I apologize if others do. It's not how I play this.
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I’m voting vivax. Trfel I Think this is correct.
##vote: vivax
Rayn you can lynch me over vivax if you want .
But you would be wrong .
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Anyways i have around 25-30mins. It's already over 3am and i am supposed to start traveling at 10am so i really need to sleep soon.
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@Trfel whats your opinion about everyone here is changing vote? Which vote swapping doesn’t make sense do you. Looks someone more scummy here?
This drives me fucking crazy here.
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On June 15 2024 09:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i have around 25-30mins. It's already over 3am and i am supposed to start traveling at 10am so i really need to sleep soon.
Go to sleep bud. It’s just a game in the end. I think vivax is mafia though. His meta fits perfectly.
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Okay.
##unvote
##vote vivax
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On June 15 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Trfel whats your opinion about everyone here is changing vote? Which vote swapping doesn’t make sense do you. Looks someone more scummy here?
This drives me fucking crazy here.
I only have one question for you.
Am I town ?
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On June 15 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Trfel whats your opinion about everyone here is changing vote? Which vote swapping doesn’t make sense do you. Looks someone more scummy here?
This drives me fucking crazy here. I think it's hard to tell. I will evaluate it later when I have more time. I think if I tried to make a judgement now it'd be very half-baked and more likely wrong than right.
That said:
If you are town, like you say you are, people are moving off of you and looking for other lynches. Why would mafia be incentivized to do this? It's more likely that town started changing things and now everyone's going crazy (both town and mafia), but it's the fact that town started making a fuss that started it all.
Figuring out which individual things are town vs mafia is difficult when it's a rush like this.
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I told Trfel to look at my filter size to figure me out and he shrugged it off.
Funny that it always worked
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EPT
