Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 2

On June 08 2024 19:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Couple of thoughts after Mocsta interactions

- it seems to me like he is drawing conclusions and then making really terrible justifications for them rather than acting with a curious and open mind to determine alignments

- it seems to me he is cautious and almost apologetic when pushing me, despite being his 2nd? Largest scum read. Tracks as mafia lynching town, not as town who thinks they have got a lead on mafia.

- his reasoning and justifications are awful and nonsensical.

the problem I am having is I do t know why he would play like this as either alignment.

- option 1 he is tying himself up into knots because he is pushing mafia agenda

-option 2 he is town and he legitimately thinks these things.

I view option 1 more likely through my lens of how the game should be played, and what is reasonable to expect from town and mafia.

It seems trfel thinks the other option would be more likely.

I’d just like to get some more thoughts itt about this.

On June 09 2024 15:03 Koshi wrote:
So marv:
1) does not call mocsta mafia in that echange and let's him go.
2) agrees with AZ mocsta is likely mafia.

On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:

So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?!

On June 08 2024 04:07 Trfel wrote:
Having second thoughts about marvellosity. I think I do actually want to pursue this after all.So marvellosity agreed with me that Kelsi3r's logic didn't make sense, but then still includes Kelsi3r in the "town" category because Mocsta said he was being obtuse and that's a town trait?

Reading through marvellosity's filter, I do still like that he acknowledged my point on Kelsi3r, and I like his line of questioning to Mocsta about his read change on me (Trfel). But he hasn't done really anything else of substance? It looks like his top suspects are scott31337 and Mocsta, and other than putting scott31337 at the bottom of his list post, he hasn't even mentioned him.

Just feels uncharacteristically disjointed. I don't get the impression that he is looking for mafia, and I don't get the impression that he cares enough about his (few) thoughts to remember them later.

On June 08 2024 21:00 Mocsta wrote:
last post before date night.. life with kids gotta priortise! rsoultin must understand surely!

i have accepted your interpretation, although disagree in particular about a closed mind. i reckon you are confirmation biased here, i mean, yes i have been firm on you up to past couple pages, yet, at least in my mind have been open about discussing points. disagreeing about a conclusion is not the same as close minded because without anything new introduced, why would the outcome change?

i can understand my push on you is unusual. im pretty sure i would find it weird too. i'm very certain my pushes on you are all in response to people, again, i think thats significant. we made
'peace' yesterday and i wasn't intentionally trying to break it. im very certain oats was pushing for my az reasoning so i said fuck it

wont know until flips mate. although yes, im not an analytical player at the best of times so im ok with you stating this. doesnt make me mafia though unless its being used to push mafia agenda,, now this, i dont see you substantiate and again you would need flips to support.

i suppose one thing i ON'T like here in option 1 is.. you dont call me mafia.. you say im pushing mafia agenda

ironicaly i didnt realise this when i wrote about mafia agenda above btw.. i still think the purpose of this post aligns with town piecing together puzzles so its not a negative for me. i think it more points out subconsciously you know option 2 is true, and just dont want to admit it outloud.. its ok mate. i went through the same with you

for the record im equally active as mafia and town. i have *never* been called up for 'moc-logic' as mafia, again, i cant expect you to acknowledge or recognise that.. i guess the only thing i can ask here is.. what is my tone saying across these posts to you and marv. internally i feel mentally the same responding start of day and now, so hopefully you see that too

On June 09 2024 16:17 Koshi wrote:

Funny how sand wasnt able to convince you he is town so you decided to do it yourself before making this list post.

On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.

Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that.

On June 07 2024 12:45 Trfel wrote:
It would be easier if you would stop pretending to be mafia

Why tell me to go find mafia when you can (presumably) do it yourself?