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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:23 GMT
#3941
On June 13 2024 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:04 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 19:46 Koshi wrote:
Scott is back to tiptoptipperditop town after AZ gave fake reads to incriminate him.

I dontthink so entirely.

I however think youre right to think that about AZ.


What’s right about it?

I think that notion about scott incriminates you as much as him.


In what way?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:23 GMT
#3942
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.


That’s the whole reason it’s weird…
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:25 GMT
#3943
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...
I had a good night of sleep.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:26 GMT
#3944
I don’t feel like I’m incriminated at all by that point.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:27 GMT
#3945
On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:
On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.

I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.

I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually.
dude.. I'm crying here

Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba.

This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving.
Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more


I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward.

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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:27 GMT
#3946
On June 11 2024 18:52 AlphaZero wrote:
Honestly I’m not convinced Sandro is more town than Rayn .wither of them could be mafia. At least Rayn is here trying to play.

Why are we defending Sandro when he isn’t even here to defend himself.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:27 GMT
#3947
On June 11 2024 18:54 AlphaZero wrote:
I’m really disoriented since my only strong scum read was obv town to everyone. Everyone except trfel seems scummy but not enough to case. Mafia is playing well or town is playing poorly.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:28 GMT
#3948
On June 11 2024 20:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 20:10 Mocsta wrote:
On June 11 2024 20:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Anyway I think dmb is correct today.

So I’ll do that. Vote:dmb
the only reason I would do this over rayn is if sandroba continues to afk and hope that's a free town vote to attempt majority

Nothing further from me.till deadline


Doesn’t make sense cause if Sandro continues to Afk he is probably mafia.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:28 GMT
#3949
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.
I had a good night of sleep.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:29 GMT
#3950
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...


Fuck you and diving just to find something that suits your argument .

I’m not taking undue credit but I also, clearly was not convinced on Sandro either way.

I wanted another day to see it play out and acknowledged many times he could be mafia.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:29 GMT
#3951
AZ I dont think you are mafia. I am saying you cant use that argument because your play yesterday does not support it at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:30 GMT
#3952
On June 13 2024 21:29 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...


Fuck you and diving just to find something that suits your argument .

I’m not taking undue credit but I also, clearly was not convinced on Sandro either way.

I wanted another day to see it play out and acknowledged many times he could be mafia.

It's not hard to find these quotes. There are many of them.
I had a good night of sleep.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:31 GMT
#3953
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.


This analysis sucks
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:31 GMT
#3954
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...

Yes AZ, this.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:32 GMT
#3955
On June 13 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.


This analysis sucks

I disagree
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:33 GMT
#3956
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.

Maybe. It can also be for a teammate, esp when town is steering away feom that. To look like he's on par wirhthe townies in his analysis.

Like if scott is mafia there is no reason why sandroba couldnt do that as mafia. Noone wants to lynch scott anyways D2.
table for two on a tv tray
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:33 GMT
#3957
On June 13 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:29 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...


Fuck you and diving just to find something that suits your argument .

I’m not taking undue credit but I also, clearly was not convinced on Sandro either way.

I wanted another day to see it play out and acknowledged many times he could be mafia.

It's not hard to find these quotes. There are many of them.


But you ignored the others that take the other side In order to prove whatever point you wanted to make. Which is much worse than what you called me out for.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:34 GMT
#3958
Anyways just because mafia sandroba made a read X or Y, its not a reason to call anyone mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:35 GMT
#3959
On June 13 2024 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...

Yes AZ, this.


Fuck you too then.

To say I simply town read Sandro is bullshit and not the truth.

Just read those 5 quotes I posted. There is more from day one.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:35 GMT
#3960
On June 13 2024 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways just because mafia sandroba made a read X or Y, its not a reason to call anyone mafia.


That’s not the reason I am calling Scott mafia. The fuck? I just said it was weird.

Sometimes you guys are really smart and sometimes you are fucking idiots.
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