• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:30
CEST 19:30
KST 02:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach0[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach StarCraft Human 'N' AI League BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Total Annihilation Zero Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13217 users

Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 198

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 196 197 198 199 200 280 Next
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:23 GMT
#3941
On June 13 2024 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:04 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 19:46 Koshi wrote:
Scott is back to tiptoptipperditop town after AZ gave fake reads to incriminate him.

I dontthink so entirely.

I however think youre right to think that about AZ.


What’s right about it?

I think that notion about scott incriminates you as much as him.


In what way?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:23 GMT
#3942
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.


That’s the whole reason it’s weird…
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:25 GMT
#3943
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...
I had a good night of sleep.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:26 GMT
#3944
I don’t feel like I’m incriminated at all by that point.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:27 GMT
#3945
On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:
On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.

I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.

I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually.
dude.. I'm crying here

Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba.

This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving.
Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more


I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:27 GMT
#3946
On June 11 2024 18:52 AlphaZero wrote:
Honestly I’m not convinced Sandro is more town than Rayn .wither of them could be mafia. At least Rayn is here trying to play.

Why are we defending Sandro when he isn’t even here to defend himself.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:27 GMT
#3947
On June 11 2024 18:54 AlphaZero wrote:
I’m really disoriented since my only strong scum read was obv town to everyone. Everyone except trfel seems scummy but not enough to case. Mafia is playing well or town is playing poorly.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:28 GMT
#3948
On June 11 2024 20:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 20:10 Mocsta wrote:
On June 11 2024 20:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Anyway I think dmb is correct today.

So I’ll do that. Vote:dmb
the only reason I would do this over rayn is if sandroba continues to afk and hope that's a free town vote to attempt majority

Nothing further from me.till deadline


Doesn’t make sense cause if Sandro continues to Afk he is probably mafia.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:28 GMT
#3949
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.
I had a good night of sleep.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:29 GMT
#3950
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...


Fuck you and diving just to find something that suits your argument .

I’m not taking undue credit but I also, clearly was not convinced on Sandro either way.

I wanted another day to see it play out and acknowledged many times he could be mafia.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:29 GMT
#3951
AZ I dont think you are mafia. I am saying you cant use that argument because your play yesterday does not support it at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:30 GMT
#3952
On June 13 2024 21:29 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...


Fuck you and diving just to find something that suits your argument .

I’m not taking undue credit but I also, clearly was not convinced on Sandro either way.

I wanted another day to see it play out and acknowledged many times he could be mafia.

It's not hard to find these quotes. There are many of them.
I had a good night of sleep.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:31 GMT
#3953
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.


This analysis sucks
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:31 GMT
#3954
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...

Yes AZ, this.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 12:32 GMT
#3955
On June 13 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.


This analysis sucks

I disagree
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:33 GMT
#3956
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.

Maybe. It can also be for a teammate, esp when town is steering away feom that. To look like he's on par wirhthe townies in his analysis.

Like if scott is mafia there is no reason why sandroba couldnt do that as mafia. Noone wants to lynch scott anyways D2.
table for two on a tv tray
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:33 GMT
#3957
On June 13 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:29 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...


Fuck you and diving just to find something that suits your argument .

I’m not taking undue credit but I also, clearly was not convinced on Sandro either way.

I wanted another day to see it play out and acknowledged many times he could be mafia.

It's not hard to find these quotes. There are many of them.


But you ignored the others that take the other side In order to prove whatever point you wanted to make. Which is much worse than what you called me out for.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:34 GMT
#3958
Anyways just because mafia sandroba made a read X or Y, its not a reason to call anyone mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:35 GMT
#3959
On June 13 2024 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...

Yes AZ, this.


Fuck you too then.

To say I simply town read Sandro is bullshit and not the truth.

Just read those 5 quotes I posted. There is more from day one.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 12:35 GMT
#3960
On June 13 2024 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways just because mafia sandroba made a read X or Y, its not a reason to call anyone mafia.


That’s not the reason I am calling Scott mafia. The fuck? I just said it was weird.

Sometimes you guys are really smart and sometimes you are fucking idiots.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Prev 1 196 197 198 199 200 280 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Yamato Cup
15:00
#8
killerbeecast3
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzStarbuck 205
BRAT_OK 64
IndyStarCraft 59
Codebar 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36846
Shuttle 1135
Rush 135
Mini 117
firebathero 114
Dewaltoss 104
actioN 86
Mong 72
Hyun 57
Trap 34
[ Show more ]
Bale 24
Sexy 24
HiyA 18
Dota 2
qojqva3453
Counter-Strike
fl0m3933
Fnx 1058
edward53
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox230
Mew2King37
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu514
MindelVK17
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi2025
B2W.Neo1060
Beastyqt753
KnowMe140
ArmadaUGS136
QueenE99
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV1453
Other Games
gamesdonequick764
BasetradeTV256
StarCraft 2
angryscii 36
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 67
• Reevou 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV862
Other Games
• Shiphtur301
Upcoming Events
BSL Open Qualifier
1h 30m
BSL Open Qualifier
1h 30m
OSC
5h 30m
Replay Cast
6h 30m
Afreeca Starleague
16h 30m
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
17h 30m
Monday Night Weeklies
22h 30m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 16h
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Online Event
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.