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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22216 Posts
June 12 2024 02:52 GMT
#3401
On June 12 2024 11:49 Trfel wrote:
Koshi is very likey town imo due to rsoultin's desire to lynch sandroba day 1.


You mean he‘s outed scum. That was obvious tmi
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22216 Posts
June 12 2024 02:56 GMT
#3402
(troll post)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2024 03:00 GMT
#3403
Mafia pls kill trfel I don’t wanna die
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 12 2024 03:04 GMT
#3404
On June 12 2024 11:49 Trfel wrote:
Koshi is very likey town imo due to rsoultin's desire to lynch sandroba day 1.
yeah good point

On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero, Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Trfel, AlphaZero, sandroba
Vivax (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (0): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax


iirc rayn did not appear to deviate from a sandroba lynch which is probably a strong town indicator too. will need to fact check that of course.. information-wise, if it was 1 of rayn/az.. az has been most detrimental.. reads are scott and sandroba.. i cant believe where this is taking me.. rayns been quite humble so far about all of this if it comes to fruition.. maybe we all mature


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 12 2024 03:04 GMT
#3405
On June 12 2024 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia pls kill trfel I don’t wanna die
its ok. i can prot you this time

you earnt it
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 12 2024 03:16 GMT
#3406
On June 12 2024 11:45 Trfel wrote:
I think die_meatbaby is mafia though


Write up a case.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 12 2024 03:19 GMT
#3407
I think I want to lynch AZ tomorrow
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22216 Posts
June 12 2024 03:57 GMT
#3408
On June 12 2024 12:04 Mocsta wrote: maybe we all mature


Can‘t get mature here tbh it‘s like the matrix but run by rich folks who use government as a front.
Well that‘s probably true everywhere but I prefer when the rich dudes don‘t try to play you using sick relatives (probably)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22216 Posts
June 12 2024 04:21 GMT
#3409
+ Show Spoiler +
It‘s like I was a government in 2008 I bailed out someone who‘d turn me insane over the years and used me for money.

Then the entire place became nuts and I got evicted twice and both times for laughable reasons considering what was allowed for people who weren‘t me.

And now Austrian right wing ? No thanks, I‘d rather watch you self destruct again from somewhere else.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 12 2024 04:55 GMT
#3410
AZ <--> Sandroba is pretty bad

there is a constant push-pull of: "yes sandroba is scummy, and shoudlnt be here after N1.. BUT.. i want to vote someone else"
its actually really really shocked me how long this has been running for.

in fact: AZ scum, DMB town
PULL Starts as a townish read
On June 08 2024 07:46 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 07:45 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:39 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 08 2024 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Oats and Sandro are top town.

Trfel is really worrying me. On the surface is very pro town, but also playing in a clearly different way to his prior games. I don’t really like his scum reads at all. I don’t level as if he is being that proactive in getting kelsier lynched, even though he apparently strongly suspects him.

And I find his reasoning for his scumreads much weaker than his other posts. I agree with a lot of his analysis but not when it comes to finding mafia…

I think his Smurf hunting made more sense logically than his scum reads which bothers me.

I wouldn’t lynch today, but if there is an active mafia hiding it’s this guy.

Scott just looks bad to me, completely forgettable, aside from his question that has already been analysed I couldn’t tell you why exactly. His scum hunting just comes across as manufactured,

Won’t lynch Marv today.

Rso has felt town by vibe.

Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him

Rayn is being Rayn. Pretty much null.

Mocsta: looked better disengaging than when he was trying to do stuff. Don’t know what that means.

Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null.

Rest need to post more or post more meaningful stuff.
I guess I dunno what more I can do with Kelsi3r, people aren't super interested in lynching him, it is what it is. I mean I could definitely be wrong. But if he is mafia and gets through this it's not due to my lack of trying. I guess if he is town and doesn't change anything and survives that's also not due to my lack of trying But you get my point.

Is your "won't lynch marvellosity" thing a town read thing or a waiting thing?


It’s a “bad idea to try and lynch Marv day one thing” when he is playing the game and seems to be enjoying things.
Fair, I understand that view. Not sure if I agree but I at least get it.

I would definitely be very sad to lynch him, like I said, he's the funniest player so far. That's a pretty big motivator.
People seem to have strong opinions on sandroba and Vivax and I'm just not seeing it right now. (same with Oatsmaster but that's on me for being bad so I expect this, it doesn't worry me yet)

Can anyone post or point me to a reasonable explanation of reading sandroba or Vivax?


Sandros catchup posting resonated with me. He seemed to be just comfortable putting things out there.

Vivax im not sure anyone should how anyone could call him town right now.

He looked ok initially. Recently pretty meh.

PUSH 12hrs later flips read...
On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.

Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.

Rso is right about that.

PUSH - ~3days ago to Marv on N1.. Defends Sandroba
On June 09 2024 17:36 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 17:26 marvellosity wrote:
Not hugely confident on the oats read, but I think if this was his 95th mafia game in a row he’d be less…

Maybe just less.


The reason I’m reconsidering oats is that it’s all surface level. Like he is probing and poking stuff. But really he ended up on the really shitty kelsier lynch and didn’t do anything with the poking and prodding.

I started to get worried it’s performative. Because to me at least it lead to a very underwhelming.

Maybe I’m being pocketed but I think Mocsta looked very town latter part of the phase.

I think the people who didn’t really consider Scott and who just defaulted to kelsier are worth looking at.

As is sandroba to be honest. I know that you probably don’t like to hear that as you have this kind of ‘good player’ mutual respect thing going on.

But he is someone who is a priority shot day one in previous games.

Something has changed here.

PUSH D2 Start.. locks into dmb, does not engage with other F Tier reads
On June 10 2024 10:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,

PULL 24hrs later... active defense of F-tier sandroba
On June 11 2024 16:35 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba/DMB/+1

Can we all agree on this? Before we look for the third?


IM not sure on Sandro.

I think DMB is likely.

PULL 2hrs later.. more active defense of F-tier sandroba.. further, Rayn was listed as "C-tier" read, where is the effort to discern what this weak case means for Rayn?
On June 11 2024 18:40 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 11 2024 18:03 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.

That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.

Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"?????
Hey raynpelikoneet, can we talk about this for a little? I don't want to upset you and once again I am sorry that I did so, but if you are town I would very much like to understand where you are coming from.

Specifically the third paragraph, would you be able to explain where that is coming from?

Here are the things sandroba said on rsoultin during D1:
On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote:
The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out?

On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile

Now after that Koshi enter the game in place of rsoultin, and sandroba's take on that D2 is:
On June 11 2024 00:21 sandroba wrote:
On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.

Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that.


Okay this actually makes me feel a lot better, since I think rsoul is to me much harder to pin down as mafia than Koshi. For Koshi if he is this bad he is mafia and this view makes him mafia 100%. There is absolutely no way Koshi comes in with fresh eyes, reads the same thread as me and comes to this conclusion.

I understand if sandroba thinks Koshi is mafia.
Why does he have to justify it with something rsoultin did?

Similar to the Oats thing in his catch up, that's all out of place, this doesn't make any sense.
If sandroba thinks Koshi is mafia, why write anything about rsoultin, if he thought rsoultin is null?

It's like, "because i think this person does now look scummy, suddenly their other posts that are null became scummy as well". If you get what i mean?


This case is really weak.

PUSH-PULL5min later... flips F-tier Sandro read
On June 11 2024 18:45 AlphaZero wrote:
Lif anything sandros post on koshi being 100% mafia like that is an argument for him being town.

I haven’t seen any good reasons that make Sandro mafia except he is worse than prior games.

Now this is true. But I also saw him almost get mislynched for similar reasoning previously.

I’d be more comfortable waiting it out another phase and flipping dmb.


But I realise I don’t have the influence or time to get it done.

PUSH 7in later - Sandroba is less town Rayn.. i.e. at best: null, at worst:scum
On June 11 2024 18:52 AlphaZero wrote:
Honestly I’m not convinced Sandro is more town than Rayn .wither of them could be mafia. At least Rayn is here trying to play.

Why are we defending Sandro when he isn’t even here to defend himself.

PULL1hr laterlets ignore all the sandroba push-pull and jump onto DMB, with no interaction or read progression
On June 11 2024 20:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Anyway I think dmb is correct today.

So I’ll do that. Vote:dmb
PUSH
PUSH-PULL
On June 11 2024 20:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 20:10 Mocsta wrote:
On June 11 2024 20:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Anyway I think dmb is correct today.

So I’ll do that. Vote:dmb
the only reason I would do this over rayn is if sandroba continues to afk and hope that's a free town vote to attempt majority

Nothing further from me.till deadline


]Doesn’t make sense cause if Sandro continues to Afk he is probably mafia.

Later Sandroba returns (i.e. isnt afk), AZ returns... yet no interaction, and vote together after all this.

AZ scum, DMB town
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 12 2024 04:56 GMT
#3411
I might have 16pages of shit, bad townie. ream me at the end.

regardless.. this is a damn good case
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 12 2024 05:05 GMT
#3412
Updated

On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero, Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Trfel, AlphaZero, sandroba
Vivax (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (0): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax


I spend the entire D2 saying i wont vote with Rayn my top scum read.. yet AZ votes with Sandroba to lynch DMB.. crazy


Rayn then PoE to certain town, theres just no benefit at all to bus Sandroba like this.

On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero, Vivax, AlphaZero, sandroba
raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Trfel, AlphaZero, sandroba
Vivax (0): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (0): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax



Applying this to D1 lynch

On June 09 2024 10:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One

Kelsi3r (7): Mocsta, scott31337, Trfel, rsoultin, Oatsmaster, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, rsoultin
scott31337 (5): sandroba, marvellosity, AlphaZero, Vivax, Vivax, Mocsta
sandroba (0): rsoultin
raynpelikoneet (0): Oatsmaster
Vivax (0): Oatsmaster, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): Vivax
Trfel (0): [green]scott31337

Not Voting (1): Kelsi3r

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2024 06:32 GMT
#3413
I suggest we sing kumbaja together during the night. There was too much arguing during the day.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22216 Posts
June 12 2024 07:05 GMT
#3414
On June 12 2024 15:32 Koshi wrote:
I suggest we sing kumbaja together during the night. There was too much arguing during the day.


Been trying to sleep for 6 hours fml
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22216 Posts
June 12 2024 07:12 GMT
#3415
Both mafias on sandro I‘d bet.
This isn‘t high effort mafia we‘re facing.

Mb Az/dmb/Oats cuz he dropped off

Slam looking good imo
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2024 07:22 GMT
#3416
On June 12 2024 15:32 Koshi wrote:
I suggest we sing kumbaja together during the night. There was too much arguing during the day.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2024 07:24 GMT
#3417
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2024 07:27 GMT
#3418
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2024 07:34 GMT
#3419
On June 12 2024 16:27 Alakaslam wrote:
https://youtu.be/W-hrBhA4XkM?si=PMu__Xbp1zirOUeh

+ Show Spoiler +
zomg the comments on this I am dying with tears of mirth

I need to put that link in a qr code

Get a couple fastenal hooks, cover them with little Halloween candles

Print the qr on a little ornate slip, hang the fasteners on the stall door at the restroom in Penske's shop

Wait until I hear gregorian chants from a phone in the bathroom stall and the resulting blasphemy mirth

Sometimes I am way too evil
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 12 2024 07:44 GMT
#3420
Nice lynch. I haven’t caught up at all. I’ll try and read through soon

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