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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 11 2024 17:38 GMT
#3181
On June 12 2024 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 02:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:
On June 12 2024 01:31 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways dmb treat me as blue macosta

Is vivax still your scum read,?

As in you both are calling each other scum?


Yes - and there's three theories I have

1. Mafia DMB saw the claim believed the claim told scum buddies of the claim - scum team thought Marv as more of a threat - Mafia DMB keeps posting about the claim in the thread

2. DMB is town

3. Mafia thought the claim was fake

Which makes the most sense?

There *HAS* to be scum between DMB/Sandroba.. im going to lose my hair if both are town

Has to be scum between dmb/sandro
Votes rayn

Hmmmm
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 17:59 GMT
#3182
On June 12 2024 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 02:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2024 02:04 scott31337 wrote:
On June 12 2024 01:31 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways dmb treat me as blue macosta

Is vivax still your scum read,?

As in you both are calling each other scum?


Yes - and there's three theories I have

1. Mafia DMB saw the claim believed the claim told scum buddies of the claim - scum team thought Marv as more of a threat - Mafia DMB keeps posting about the claim in the thread

2. DMB is town

3. Mafia thought the claim was fake

Which makes the most sense?

There *HAS* to be scum between DMB/Sandroba.. im going to lose my hair if both are town

Has to be scum between dmb/sandro
Votes rayn
you're better than that

my pov:

rayn is guaranteed
has to be scum between dmb/sandro


as for whoever noted the ZERO interactions between dmb/sandro.. like both are afk

lets check who they have talked to (either question to player; or quoted the player)

to be honest, im mostly surprised sandroba has not interacted with AZ this cycle.. doesnt feel legit so i double checked the filter and its true

sandroba
-> oats: d1 no, d2 yes
-> trfel: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> rsoultin: d1 yes
-> koshi: d2 yes
--> scott: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> dmb: d1 no, d2 no
-> slam: d1 no, d2 yes
-> marv: d1 yes
-> kelsi3r: d1 yes
-> mocsta: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> vivax: d1 yes, d2 no
-> az: d1 yes, d2 no


dmb
-> oats: d1 yes, d2 no
-> trfel: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> rsoultin: d1 yes
-> koshi: d2 yes
--> scott: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> sandroba: d1 no, d2 no
-> slam: d1 no, d2 no
-> marv: d1 yes
-> kelsi3r: d1 no
-> mocsta: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> vivax: d1 yes, d2 yes
-> az: d1 yes, d2 yes
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 11 2024 18:11 GMT
#3183
@mocsta: Not really sure why you say Sandro is in your town circle then a couple posts later you say there has to be mafia in Sandro/dmb
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 18:18 GMT
#3184
On June 12 2024 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
@mocsta: Not really sure why you say Sandro is in your town circle then a couple posts later you say there has to be mafia in Sandro/dmb

mate thats a good q

i dunno its 2am. i need to sleep

look. if majority was simpler.. sandro would be weakest townie / possibly null & maybe vivax null (as in.. maybe my relationship rea could be scum vivax lynching town dmb more than i weighted)

its just so hard when every townie has someone they refuse to work with

like me with rayn & you with sandro etc

maybe info >>> majority control


one assumption i hold is that mafia sandro returns from afk to avoid policy lynch / modkill.... i.e BARE minimum.

has he done that? yeah.. i wuould say he has
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 18:21 GMT
#3185
Oats. I'm really going to bed now or in good. To be wrecked for work tomorrow

My olive branch is that I will genuinely consider a sandroba vote even if rayn is on it

Why? Because it's not MYLO and it may help resolve town disconnect. I.e. I suspect you to be around MYLO and you may need this resolved dto work with AZ as an example (doubt he will be alive though)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
June 11 2024 19:17 GMT
#3186
On June 12 2024 00:53 Koshi wrote:
This voting pattern of sandroba + explanation proves he is mafia. But it is ok.

DMB is as well.

And if you lynch rayn I can live with it because I know most of you are townies.


Last line has a hint of bitterness in it.

Almost like the scumbutts outside of the game who read my posts and understand them but pretend not to
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 11 2024 19:20 GMT
#3187
On June 11 2024 23:43 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 23:20 sandroba wrote:
On June 11 2024 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 23:01 sandroba wrote:
On June 11 2024 13:43 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:00 Koshi wrote:
Sandro, Slam, Mocsta
(AZ instead of Mocsta but only because so many of you say it, they are not mafia together)

can you help me why sandro?
On June 10 2024 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am sorry guys i dont see it, aside from him being away...
why?
On June 10 2024 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he was really townie when he was in thread tbh
And then...
On June 10 2024 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax go with me on sandroba, mocsta, az, ok?
On June 10 2024 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:04 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:55 Trfel wrote:
Honestly my first impression is that Vivax and die_meatbaby are trying to distance from each other.

Could be that just one of them is mafia, or I guess maybe that neither is mafia, but I think both could also be mafia. I have reason to think they both (individually, separately) could be mafia, and very little reason to think otherwise.

Just seems like the most plausible explanation is one (or even both) of them decided to try and clutter the thread to defend themselves/distract from the actual arguments against them.

i literally adviced them to do so, if you didnt catch that?
Why are you making this argument?
If you have to blame anyone, blame me for their "show"...

@raynpelikoneet, I disagree that sandroba's posting was great when he was here. It was.... okay at best imo? But I don't think there's anything special about it. That doesn't mean he has to be mafia, but a lack of interesting or insightful thoughts, combined with nonexistent activity/involvement, is a reasonable case.

i didn't say great. and i can't say he looks townie now when not posting. noone can.
If you think sandroba is mafia, go ahead. I am just talking about what i know when people were posting.
What?

Maybe I phrased it poorly. What I meant was, it seems like they are both mafia, and realized that they're associating too closely and "fought" to try and change that. I know that's unflipped association, but it was my first thought.*

If you really want to say that they did this due to your advice, I mean sure, I can lynch you after them

*Asterisk means: as I thought about it more, I still think that the argument makes sense if only one of them is mafia, baiting the other one into the argument but overall accomplishing the purpose of cluttering the thread and distracting from the actual arguments at hand.

Didn't you say sandroba's posting looked good or towny or something more positive? I forget the exact word. I wouldn't really attribute anything positive to it though, it felt solidly meh/null range. I was just bring it up since I think sandroba is very much worth considering, and you and marvellosity are the ones I think might benefit from reconsidering it.

I dont think they are both mafia.

I think sandroba is worth considering.
Also, can anyone possibly believe this?
On June 11 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 11 2024 05:39 Trfel wrote:
On June 11 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I should be on computer in somewhat 30mins.
Let it be known i already told AZ 6 hours ago i dont think case on vivax is strong. Vivax teaction to case wss also townie. I can write why the case is not hood an see how many people will still stick there.
Don't bother, I can't imagine Vivax getting lynched.

Is there any reason why I should think you are town?

I made the best case anyone has this game.
Can raynpelikoneet actually think that this:
On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.

That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.

Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"?????
Is the best case in the game?


I commented about this, but Trfel put it together nicely. Rayn goes from sandroba was really townie, to arguing with himself and putting me on scum list without any reason what so ever. Then after the weekend when I come back and I'm catching up and posting, he doubles down with contrieved reasons for finding me mafia. This is just random posting with an agenda, grasping at straws to keep up appearances. Rayn is mafia.

You think your posts when you came back were good? Like honestly truly should’ve made you townie?

I can't know for sure how my posts would be perceived by different folks, I can just see what people wrote about them and if the interpretation and commentary seems believable according to what I think I know about that player's thought process.

Okay sell me on rayn. Saying “he shouldn’t be doing that it’s bad” I don’t think is a good argument

Rayn has demonstrated 2 times with these incongruent reads, both around rsoul / koshi. First was when rsoul said she found me suspicious day 1. Rayn came into the thread and said this was "the best case so far" and that it made rsoul town. He then later asked rsoul what the case was about and also gave some contradicting meta on rsoul. At this point rayn by his own admission read me town. I contradicted the meta he posted, he agreed with my characterization and still stuck with his read. His read on rsoul was completely fabricated out of thin air, all the basis for it where fake.
And the latest one with koshi, starts with rayn opinion on my posts:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he was really townie when he was in thread tbh

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi i can't see it, can you help me see it?

Koshi nor anyone say anything about me between this post and this post:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax go with me on sandroba, mocsta, az, ok?

In between there is incongruent and seemly random commentary about koshi's posts:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck koshi is 100% town... for anyone who is wondering.


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 03:46 Koshi wrote:
If marv has me in his PoE this game will be solved anyway. We will see if he lynches either sandroba or mocsta with me. Exciting times ahead.

The question is. Should I get lynched this game?

very good post.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 03:55 Koshi wrote:
On June 10 2024 03:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Marv is enjoying himself too much to be mafia imo.

Yes. Exciting because I think I am not super terrible and think sandroba and mocsta really have a good shot at being mafia and I actually have a lot of townreads.

very terrible post.-


Rayn progression shows no rational line of thought whatsoever, it's like night and day from the previous game where anyone who read his posts could clearly see where he was coming from.


The first part of this, I’m not really sure why Rayn would change his read on rsoul based on what you said because rsoul wasn’t doing what you described at that point anyway. I couldn’t find a quote where rayn said that rsouls case on you was the best case in the game while also saying you were very townie.

The second one, koshi does post this between the two posts you pointed out
On June 10 2024 07:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
anyone here?

No I am going to bed.
I dont like sandroba because there is 0 emotion in his play. Very analytical posts, no "wrong or cheap" stuff to figure out the game.

I dont know. It almost looks too stereotypical one sided to be mafia. Like... why would you play mafia like that.

I’m not really sure why you omitted that but I think this is pretty convincing from koshi and could easily explain why rayn flipped onto you.
No gg, No skill.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 11 2024 19:37 GMT
#3188
Hmm, I honestly missed this koshi post on my catch-up, that does make this rayn evolution seem less random than what I was seeing. I have to re-read rayn now. It might be the case that the first interaction tainted my perspective and I ignored things I shouldn't have.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 11 2024 19:40 GMT
#3189
Would this perspective by koshi be enough to move him from very townie to showing up in his lynch list though. Might be confirmation bias again, but could point to them working together.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 11 2024 19:43 GMT
#3190
On June 08 2024 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Can we lynch sandy?

Interested in hearung more aboytthis.

On June 08 2024 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well at least i found one true town in rsoultin.
Best read so dar.


Erm, rayn - were you talking about your own read of rsoul and not rsoul's read of me at this point?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 11 2024 19:46 GMT
#3191
I think he might have been... and all my assumptions are just idiotic
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 19:46 GMT
#3192
On June 12 2024 03:21 Mocsta wrote:
Oats. I'm really going to bed now or in good. To be wrecked for work tomorrow

My olive branch is that I will genuinely consider a sandroba vote even if rayn is on it

Why? Because it's not MYLO and it may help resolve town disconnect. I.e. I suspect you to be around MYLO and you may need this resolved dto work with AZ as an example (doubt he will be alive though)

#love
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 19:47 GMT
#3193
On June 12 2024 04:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 00:53 Koshi wrote:
This voting pattern of sandroba + explanation proves he is mafia. But it is ok.

DMB is as well.

And if you lynch rayn I can live with it because I know most of you are townies.


Last line has a hint of bitterness in it.

Almost like the scumbutts outside of the game who read my posts and understand them but pretend not to

It's because I would dislike that lol
I had a good night of sleep.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 11 2024 19:51 GMT
#3194
Well that has no bearing on dmb though, trfel's case on her is still the strongest in the thread. Koshi / rsoul even rayn might still be scum, but it would be due to sheer luck if I stumbled on the right answer
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 11 2024 19:54 GMT
#3195
On June 12 2024 04:51 sandroba wrote:
Well that has no bearing on dmb though, trfel's case on her is still the strongest in the thread. Koshi / rsoul even rayn might still be scum, but it would be due to sheer luck if I stumbled on the right answer
Well I'd appreciate it you stumbled up on it all the same
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2024 20:16 GMT
#3196
On June 12 2024 04:43 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 08 2024 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Can we lynch sandy?

Interested in hearung more aboytthis.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well at least i found one true town in rsoultin.
Best read so dar.


Erm, rayn - were you talking about your own read of rsoul and not rsoul's read of me at this point?

Of course i am talking about my read on her...
Did you wven actually read my filter? I very clearly said her case on you is bad later.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2024 20:18 GMT
#3197
Mocsta seems to be gearing up for sandroba mafia lynch.
There really is no other explanation for his pre-flip actions here.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 20:50 GMT
#3198
On June 12 2024 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta seems to be gearing up for sandroba mafia lynch.
There really is no other explanation for his pre-flip actions here.

Isnt it too obvious? He has been antsy all day after the sandroba wagon.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
June 11 2024 21:05 GMT
#3199
On June 12 2024 04:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2024 04:17 Vivax wrote:
On June 12 2024 00:53 Koshi wrote:
This voting pattern of sandroba + explanation proves he is mafia. But it is ok.

DMB is as well.

And if you lynch rayn I can live with it because I know most of you are townies.


Last line has a hint of bitterness in it.

Almost like the scumbutts outside of the game who read my posts and understand them but pretend not to

It's because I would dislike that lol


To me it sounded more like ‚sucks I‘m not one of those‘.

It‘s a thought I often have when I see normal people so I recognize it easily
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 11 2024 21:09 GMT
#3200
On June 11 2024 05:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Fuck it.

I'm not throwing but just lynch me out or replace whatever town prefers.

I got blindsided and was just tempted to post the word "post" a few hundred times to spite someone I wanted to visit this summer and couldn't quite suddenly due to organizational and financial restrictions.

That's shitty, and not usually what this game does with my psyche. I am usually emotional and sometimes toxic but usually not more so than some hell photos or evil rants that people (I hope) know are not entirely serious. (I don't hate Biden or trump for example as they aren't responsible for the US housing crisis.)

Fuck it. I am not going to let my government's corruption and environmentalist bullshit combined with my own poor scheduling ruin my reputation with what online friends I could make here.

/Replace

Sorry Grackaroni

Sorry town

Sorry mafia

Aaaaand screw this,

I wanted to avoid being a tantrum throwing bitch- so I bitched and threw a tantrum.


Very sagacious behavior.




Koshi you didn't offend me (sandroba did a little ) you just frustrated me enough (because I was stressed already by shit that you had no bearing on) to want to do petty malicious bullshit and I caught myself. I wanted to spam out my filter to 20 pages and end it with "still sr me koshi?" And went "no I will not allow myself to keep doing this toxic bullshit" and then went and did a toxic bullshit.

I will try to read recent stuff ':-S
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