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On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward?
Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn.
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On June 11 2024 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's very stupid way of thinking Vivax.
Maybe I‘ll indulge you and vote sandro.
If that means you‘ll brighten up it might be worth it.
But if he doesn‘t flip scum you‘d definitely be on the table for me.
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Az. Did you read my rayn post #3028?
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On June 11 2024 18:40 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Hey raynpelikoneet, can we talk about this for a little? I don't want to upset you and once again I am sorry that I did so, but if you are town I would very much like to understand where you are coming from. Specifically the third paragraph, would you be able to explain where that is coming from? Here are the things sandroba said on rsoultin during D1: On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote:
The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out?
On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote:
Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile
Now after that Koshi enter the game in place of rsoultin, and sandroba's take on that D2 is: On June 11 2024 00:21 sandroba wrote:On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.
Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that. Okay this actually makes me feel a lot better, since I think rsoul is to me much harder to pin down as mafia than Koshi. For Koshi if he is this bad he is mafia and this view makes him mafia 100%. There is absolutely no way Koshi comes in with fresh eyes, reads the same thread as me and comes to this conclusion. I understand if sandroba thinks Koshi is mafia. Why does he have to justify it with something rsoultin did? Similar to the Oats thing in his catch up, that's all out of place, this doesn't make any sense. If sandroba thinks Koshi is mafia, why write anything about rsoultin, if he thought rsoultin is null? It's like, "because i think this person does now look scummy, suddenly their other posts that are null became scummy as well". If you get what i mean? This case is really weak.
That's relative.
Do you think sandroba posts rayn talks about are "insightful" posts? And I think that what rayn points out here, is why you answer that question with not really.
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On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol
I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively
Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return
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Lif anything sandros post on koshi being 100% mafia like that is an argument for him being town.
I haven’t seen any good reasons that make Sandro mafia except he is worse than prior games.
Now this is true. But I also saw him almost get mislynched for similar reasoning previously.
I’d be more comfortable waiting it out another phase and flipping dmb.
But I realise I don’t have the influence or time to get it done.
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Yeah I get I'm pulling an oats
Sorry oats you were right to be that head strong
I actually give up
Trfel breaking up has fucked the very little chance to secure a town majority
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On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return
covering your bases already?
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Honestly I’m not convinced Sandro is more town than Rayn .wither of them could be mafia. At least Rayn is here trying to play.
Why are we defending Sandro when he isn’t even here to defend himself.
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I’m really disoriented since my only strong scum read was obv town to everyone. Everyone except trfel seems scummy but not enough to case. Mafia is playing well or town is playing poorly.
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On June 11 2024 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return covering your bases already? you must have sold a lot of copies of 'rayns how to play: town - dodge and reframe mastery'
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I think dmb is the right lynch though.
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On June 11 2024 18:52 AlphaZero wrote:
Honestly I’m not convinced Sandro is more town than Rayn .wither of them could be mafia. At least Rayn is here trying to play.
Why are we defending Sandro when he isn’t even here to defend himself. Dude. You're an even bigger disappointment now
Pull your fuckong finger out
Day1 shit on everyone for policy lynch and now you do the same
I'm one vote it's staying in rayn
Do as you decide
P.s. I do like you as a player this is legit hypocrisy though
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On June 11 2024 18:56 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:52 AlphaZero wrote:
Honestly I’m not convinced Sandro is more town than Rayn .wither of them could be mafia. At least Rayn is here trying to play.
Why are we defending Sandro when he isn’t even here to defend himself. Dude. You're an even bigger disappointment now Pull your fuckong finger out Day1 shit on everyone for policy lynch and now you do the same I'm one vote it's staying in rayn Do as you decide P.s. I do like you as a player this is legit hypocrisy though
I just can’t put the time in to carry this game if it’s town Sandro mafia Rayn.
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On June 11 2024 18:54 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return covering your bases already? you must have sold a lot of copies of 'rayns how to play: town - dodge and reframe mastery'
Let me tell you some of your mastery....
Why do you never ever share a single shred of doubt on Trfel's alignment. You havent played for what, 10 or so years, so you should have no clue about Trfel's recent meta.
Trfel makes a case on Vivax. You blindly sheep onto the case. I am the only person in this game who has provably told i dont think Trfel's case on Vivax is good before he said it was fake. Even when Trfel fucking thinks i am mafia. For some reason this doesn't matter to you at all, you just take him at face value when he says "oh case was fake lets focus on rayn", and you go all balls out on rayn. Then Trfel says "no i dont really want rayn i want to actually follow him on sandroba" and you are STILL on Trfel is always town train?????
I mean, for you, ther SHOULD be a reasonable amount of doubt of Trfel being town, because all the good shit in your opinion he has done he has backed out of and now he is doing stupid shit.
Yet you don't. Thank you for playing, mafia.
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Blah blah blah pretending too read
Makes fake points about fake posts
Blah blah blah
So your game.is that I am mafia with sandroba, correct?
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yes
and i am off to work now.
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On June 11 2024 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:54 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return covering your bases already? you must have sold a lot of copies of 'rayns how to play: town - dodge and reframe mastery' Let me tell you some of your mastery.... Why do you never ever share a single shred of doubt on Trfel's alignment. You havent played for what, 10 or so years, so you should have no clue about Trfel's recent meta. Trfel makes a case on Vivax. You blindly sheep onto the case. I am the only person in this game who has provably told i dont think Trfel's case on Vivax is good before he said it was fake. Even when Trfel fucking thinks i am mafia. For some reason this doesn't matter to you at all, you just take him at face value when he says "oh case was fake lets focus on rayn", and you go all balls out on rayn. Then Trfel says "no i dont really want rayn i want to actually follow him on sandroba" and you are STILL on Trfel is always town train????? I mean, for you, ther SHOULD be a reasonable amount of doubt of Trfel being town, because all the good shit in your opinion he has done he has backed out of and now he is doing stupid shit. Yet you don't. Thank you for playing, mafia.
This post is bad. And should not be made by town Rayn imo. Why should mocsta town reading obv town trfel mean anything. If mocsta is mafia why is this the case to make. It’s very fucking weak.
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On June 11 2024 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:54 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return covering your bases already? you must have sold a lot of copies of 'rayns how to play: town - dodge and reframe mastery' Let me tell you some of your mastery.... Why do you never ever share a single shred of doubt on Trfel's alignment. You havent played for what, 10 or so years, so you should have no clue about Trfel's recent meta. Trfel makes a case on Vivax. You blindly sheep onto the case. I am the only person in this game who has provably told i dont think Trfel's case on Vivax is good before he said it was fake. Even when Trfel fucking thinks i am mafia. For some reason this doesn't matter to you at all, you just take him at face value when he says "oh case was fake lets focus on rayn", and you go all balls out on rayn. Then Trfel says "no i dont really want rayn i want to actually follow him on sandroba" and you are STILL on Trfel is always town train????? I mean, for you, ther SHOULD be a reasonable amount of doubt of Trfel being town, because all the good shit in your opinion he has done he has backed out of and now he is doing stupid shit. Yet you don't. Thank you for playing, mafia.
Ah lucky me. rayn is most likely town and now I have to really ponder if it is slam or Mocsta.
Ty Oats.
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On June 11 2024 19:09 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 18:54 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 18:44 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:42 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:40 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:58 Trfel wrote:
The thing is, I'm not sold on sandroba being town.
I don't get much of an impression either way from his posts. But there is a distinct lack of them.
I'm...... going to vote for sandroba actually. dude.. I'm crying here Are you serious about following koshi and rayn, your scum reads on sandroba. This town can't give.yoj the external validation you are craving. Can you at least stay on rayn till we get more feedback from rest of town.. it's coming.. patience. A little bit more I’m having the same thought. Sandroba flipping mafia makes the game a lot more straightforward. You want to flip to sandroba too? Is the mason logs going well or something? Like what does sandroba!mafia conclude such that the game is straight forward? Then we can worry less about oats/koshi/rayn. we? You're dead n2 most likely lol I think if sandroba is town then game.is over effectively Yeah sandroba might be scum but I'm not voting with that block. I would rather assume they are bussing because sandroba was at risk of modkill and made just enough effort to keep the slot going but may not return covering your bases already? you must have sold a lot of copies of 'rayns how to play: town - dodge and reframe mastery' Let me tell you some of your mastery.... Why do you never ever share a single shred of doubt on Trfel's alignment. You havent played for what, 10 or so years, so you should have no clue about Trfel's recent meta. Trfel makes a case on Vivax. You blindly sheep onto the case. I am the only person in this game who has provably told i dont think Trfel's case on Vivax is good before he said it was fake. Even when Trfel fucking thinks i am mafia. For some reason this doesn't matter to you at all, you just take him at face value when he says "oh case was fake lets focus on rayn", and you go all balls out on rayn. Then Trfel says "no i dont really want rayn i want to actually follow him on sandroba" and you are STILL on Trfel is always town train????? I mean, for you, ther SHOULD be a reasonable amount of doubt of Trfel being town, because all the good shit in your opinion he has done he has backed out of and now he is doing stupid shit. Yet you don't. Thank you for playing, mafia. This post is bad. And should not be made by town Rayn imo. Why should mocsta town reading obv town trfel mean anything. If mocsta is mafia why is this the case to make. It’s very fucking weak.
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