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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2024 21:14 GMT
#4069
On June 14 2024 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is this the day when we are all FRIENDS and then lynch mafia?


I'm down!
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 00:01 GMT
#4142
On June 14 2024 08:56 Alakaslam wrote:
But yeah Rayn should join AZ and I on scott, Scott is mafia this game, is very simple


So I scum read my partner Sandroba the whole game
I vote Sandroba 3rd
Lynch Sandroba even with all the other thread stuff
And I'm still mafia

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 00:08 GMT
#4163
I'm still pretty stumped
Koshi who I read town believes it's DMB and was a scum/scum D2.
Rayn who I read town believes it's Mocsta
AZ thinks Mocsta is mafia too, which tingles my spider senses
Slam thinks I'm mafia
Koshi doesn't believe a DMB/Mocsta team
I don't think Rayn does either

Is Vivax just under the radar? But Vivax thinks AZ is mafia.

Decisions decisions
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 00:19 GMT
#4183
On June 14 2024 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 09:08 scott31337 wrote:
I'm still pretty stumped
Koshi who I read town believes it's DMB and was a scum/scum D2.
Rayn who I read town believes it's Mocsta
AZ thinks Mocsta is mafia too, which tingles my spider senses
Slam thinks I'm mafia
Koshi doesn't believe a DMB/Mocsta team
I don't think Rayn does either

Is Vivax just under the radar? But Vivax thinks AZ is mafia.

Decisions decisions

who do YOU think is mafia?


I think AZ and Slam, but that could be the OMGUS coming out of me on Slam. If not Slam than Vivax or conspiracy theory land but I'm not doing that until D4.

I still think DMB and Mocsta are both town.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 00:51 GMT
#4223
On June 11 2024 10:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 09:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

sandroba (5); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero
Vivax (2): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (1): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax

With 5 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

hmmmm stinky wagon build up


Interesting, for what we know now.

And he said AZ town a few posts before this. So what's stinky about it?

On June 13 2024 18:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 17:41 Koshi wrote:
On June 09 2024 10:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Kelsi3r (7): Mocsta, scott31337, Trfel, rsoultin, Oatsmaster, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, rsoultin
scott31337 (5): sandroba, marvellosity, AlphaZero, Vivax, Vivax, Mocsta
sandroba (0): rsoultin
raynpelikoneet (0): Oatsmaster
Vivax (0): Oatsmaster, AlphaZero
Mocsta (0): Vivax
Trfel (0): scott31337

Not Voting (1): Kelsi3r

With 7 votes, Kelsi3r is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Sunday, Jun 09 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


Another reason to not lynch scott today
yeah, i literally just read 114 sandroba hits in his filter looking for his d2 case - which there isnt one.

his take on sandroba has been pretty damn consistent and lines up with thread evolution..
all his stuff with sandroba has been reactive too, and has maintained his top reads. I dunno, really does come across to me as a townie working across multiple suspects


To me this is a reasonable mindset. Mocsta was scumreading me D1 maybe a little D2.

I'm going to do DMB's filter next.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 00:53 GMT
#4226
On June 14 2024 09:22 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 14 2024 09:18 AlphaZero wrote:
and I have been pointing out why scott and mocsta are partnered, and everyone dismissed it, and then slam says it and you say its a good point.

i agreed with slam saying "it is mocsta and scott" most likely.
why are they partnered? i have never thought of that shit yet in my mind


Because Scott refuses to consider mocsta mafia for the same reasons he calls me mafia, when mocsta is an even worse example of that.

His reason is that 'mocsta is trying to solve the game' which is the most generic reason ever and not even really true.

and also because day one when I was pushing scott mocsta came in to undermine my push hard calling it 'nitpicky' i think it was a chainsaw defense.


I just re-read Mocsta's filter and I'm just not seeing it.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 01:15 GMT
#4231
Okay let's put the mindset that AZ is town and Slam is town
If true then Mocsta makes sense as mafia
Who's his third? I mean if he flips mafia we can figure that out later but

I read a couple of Mocsta's mafia games from the database since I don't believe (or remember playing with him)
He's pretty stubborn in his voting - ie I'm voting for town, and I'm voting for whoever I want. Like this game.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 01:57 GMT
#4244
On June 14 2024 10:25 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not playing anymore

Go ahead and vote me off

Last post
Which you can reread after my town flip

I am not voting this cycle either as a fuck you to Rayn
He's just butthurt he got a few votes last cycle. That's it

Putting this game on pause for half a day was really good to crystalize some thoughts

Firstly, I stand by this for post game that the rayn/az mason is an important parcel.of information for how d2 went down when talking about bussing optionality.
We very likely expect d1 mafia received whisper and did not use.
Presumably it is the same d3 as no one has said they are masoned.

I conclude d2 Rayn/az is either town town or one is mafia.

Why is this relevant.
We don't know what was said but we know both players must remain increasingly consistent and cautious compared to theead-only players.

My point is this. I thought alpha townread sandroba regardless of what was in filter
Even Rayn my biggest antagonist agrees he thought alpha townread sandroba because of filter.

I don't believe Rayn is scum at all. He will say it's to save my neck I will say it's because I have seen what I expect from town Rayn which is an intelligent player that likes his butt being licked real clean and I just won't do that. I never agreed that one post was a good reason to lynch sandroba and here I am now burning as if a witch when I bleed the same as the rest of yoh. That's precisely why I think Rayn is town.

Alpha is scum.
His game is a fancy take on poilicy ynch.. you are not playing with correct principles.. even burn as a witch Rayn does not take it that far.

Alpha because he started captivating with some red flags has been a big contributor for the shit town culture of d1 and d2. Again I stand by that if somehow he was town.
His game has already allowed him an out which he throws out ready to go.. again. Town might like this because it feels good yet who else is doing this? Fuckn no one else because it's scummy and defensive instead of solving the game.

I'm not sure why koshi thought alpha rage fuxk you was legit. The post was clearly manicured which completely goes against the idea of rage.

Alphazero is my top scum read. I don't know who he is partnered with. Probably one of dmb or vivax.

I don't know how to choose. I agree with sandroba here who agrees with trfel that dmb could be beneficial to take out regardless of alignment when you to the last scum. Not this lynch.

Lastly Scott who is controversial. I spent this morning reviewing past game. Firstly his games are really low post count yet even going to d4 mafia in some his style/meta is very clear..

Again read this through eyes of town once I flip. Scott is town.
His mafia game is fundamentally very different and more narrative driven.

Yes Scott has shifted since n2 and I believe it's completely town plausible based on:
1. He feels vindicated with sandroba lynch
2. Was assuming less heat in him accordingly
3. Felt more puzzle pieces in place to solve game

It's a natural confidence boost.
The mental state 12 hrs ago no idea.. like trfel i ignore it

I will vote alpha for those who see the light

I have no response for Rayn. I'm town I've been completely honest with him and he is tunneled. I don't have the time to prove to him I'm town so here I burn.. like it doesn't matter what I say to Rayn. He won't take it I and accept.

Rayn again because of this. I believe you are town. Yep that's the type of player I look at you as even though yes I respect you are very good.

[B##vote: alphazero



The alpha push pull plus mason logs combination should not
be ignored.






[/b]

Sorry you feel that way Mocsta.

This seems genuine to me.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 01:59 GMT
#4246
Decisions decisions
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 02:15 GMT
#4251
On June 14 2024 11:00 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 10:59 scott31337 wrote:
Decisions decisions


I predict you will vote for me.


I already am.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 02:20 GMT
#4254
On June 14 2024 11:16 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 11:15 scott31337 wrote:
On June 14 2024 11:00 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 10:59 scott31337 wrote:
Decisions decisions


I predict you will vote for me.


I already am.


So whats the decision?


I'm not sure yet. I think Mocsta and DMB are both town, so I don't like either wagon.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 14:37 GMT
#4464
On June 14 2024 18:29 Koshi wrote:
rayn please forgive me. I was confused for a bit but I am back ok.
Mafia is AZ and not Mocsta. Please consider this.

But in both cases dmb is mafia with them.


Koshi had an epiphany

A'ight. I saw Mocsta unvote for AZ (I haven't gotten that far in the thread to see why) but I'm sad about it and will figure out why here when I get there.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 14:46 GMT
#4466
On June 14 2024 20:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
and scott I don´t want to call you a weak players it´s just that your opining posts are not the best...


It's okay. I would have re-done that mason thing if I could do it over. It was unneeded stuff and enough for AZ to clench his teeth in me and not let go.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 14:52 GMT
#4468
On June 14 2024 21:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 21:12 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:11 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:03 AlphaZero wrote:
Currently I have Scott Mocsta, vivax and dmb on my wagon. The most scummy wagon possible.

Feels good.

And somehow Mocsta is being the most reasonable of the three and he literally wrote a ragequit post.

This game is hard because everyone looks trash.


2 townies and a distancing mafia.

Bit the same as Sandroba voting dmb after calling me 100% mafia.


I’m not mafia. Zzzzz

Strat looking at rayn then.


Why not you?

I still have fucking Scott as mafia. And if you are town then o think you are dead wrong.

I will be rip tomorrow.


See if you really think this Koshi we should get AZ today
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 14:57 GMT
#4469
On June 14 2024 21:18 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 21:18 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:17 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:12 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:11 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 21:03 AlphaZero wrote:
Currently I have Scott Mocsta, vivax and dmb on my wagon. The most scummy wagon possible.

Feels good.

And somehow Mocsta is being the most reasonable of the three and he literally wrote a ragequit post.

This game is hard because everyone looks trash.


2 townies and a distancing mafia.

Bit the same as Sandroba voting dmb after calling me 100% mafia.


I’m not mafia. Zzzzz

Strat looking at rayn then.


Why not you?

I still have fucking Scott as mafia. And if you are town then o think you are dead wrong.

I will be rip tomorrow.


No you won’t. Cause I’m town and I’m turning you on apparently.

Would be the greatest thing you did this game.

Fuck off.


Muahahahahaha
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 15:05 GMT
#4470
I'm still down for AZ if anyone wants to come back, but I'm skeptical. Although I was happy DMB switched. I was thinking last night, who could I possibly convince? Maybe DMB maybe Koshi. I didn't think Mocsta would change though. Although Mocsta did once AZ was ahead. Hmmm

I have a couple hours and then I'll be doing secondary job stuff until a few hours before deadline.

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 16:04 GMT
#4488
On June 15 2024 01:01 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2024 21:02 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:57 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:53 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2024 20:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
Where are you guys talk to me!!!!

I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist.

That being said.

I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me.

You are still mafia.

I will skim again later. Eating now.

Why am I mafia. Why do you believe this scumteam everytime for a dmb misslynch if you are town

I dont need good reasons. You are the least townie out of all players here except maybe Slam.

Also pls dont give me these "always" "everytime" scenarios from the past because I dont remember if what you say is true. And tbh I dont believe it so..


then tell me why I am not townie.
I made the first case on sandroba before other people made a real case on him.
You really think that my mafia game would be this good that I would start with a sandro/mocstar case???

I dont remember you being a good factor for the sandroba lynch. The opposite was true.


On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
rsoultin/koshi
Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would.

Scott

On June 07 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
I think scott31337 is probably the most suspicious person to ever play this game. He's just always mafia somehow, even when his role PM says he is town


I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games.

Trfl
On June 07 2024 20:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Trfel spending time and energy to fence sit seems townie to me, I don’t really like how rayn has approached today tbh the buddying trfel smells not good

I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing.
Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team.
For right now I see him as a Townie

Sandroba
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba
this is 2 page filter.
he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier.
far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again.

IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now:
Mocsta
sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read
On June 07 2024 23:21 sandroba wrote:
I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me


looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates
then the next posts felt to me like playing togther
On June 08 2024 00:11 Mocsta wrote:
On June 08 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote:
Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question.
If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion.
If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda.
yeah I get this now and accept it's the most likely options

I was too focused on a third option which is too low odds (i.e. genuine role query)


the sandro we never saw sandro again...
what happend was

Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1

I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR?
Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro?

and why jail oats anyway?
if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats?

Or have I already found the team here?

this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me!

also in the same time i think
Vivax
I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again.
He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct

or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats.

AZ
I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now

Rayn
In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him.

Slam
to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him


AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM

that was so early on d2 at that time people where still on vivax wagon. Me too btw because I saw nobody was interested in that so i stay with wagons town decided to have. becuase when i make a only vote on somebody I am scum as well. What I have learned because of you

I am not gonna vote dmb.


And you think AZ is town and I am mafia.
So what's next?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 16:07 GMT
#4489
My secondary job meeting got moved to Tuesday

So I'll be around most of the day
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 14 2024 23:56 GMT
#4615
On June 15 2024 08:50 Mocsta wrote:
fuck this
im going to back myself and vote az
i need this resolved

##vote: AlphaZero

c'mon scott/vivax join me


Well I like this better than DNB.

Although unless someone else moves DNB is at 4 first.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 15 2024 00:08 GMT
#4636
On June 15 2024 09:06 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2024 09:03 AlphaZero wrote:
For me it’s not the worst if I get mislynched. It would def help me irl.

Just please lynch vivax and Scott afterwards.

And lynch whoever out of koshi and Rayn if either are alive at lylo

holy shit.. wow wow wow

ughhhhh

theres no way mafia says this.. only i can know this because i know im town

##unvote

i need to process this. going to leave game for a bit


You really don't think he has the ability to do this?
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