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On June 11 2024 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Wow, I like this analysis, the high incidence of the excuses and the not knowing what to do theory explains her mindset from a mafia perspective very neatly. Furthermore I am inclined to agree with the argument that she even somehow townie we won't even be in a better spot to figure out her alignment, as opposed to koshi and rayn, who although are very high ev lynch we can assume our accuracy on them as the days go by will increase. Let's drive this one home.
##unvote
##vote: dmb
Man... I need to drag out a conversation with you. It's painful as fuck for me.
You call me 100% mafia.
And now you don't vote me?
Dafuq.
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Tfrel bro. You are going from hero to zero today.
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On June 11 2024 04:54 Trfel wrote:Was trying to analyze die_meatbaby's last game as mafia to compare it to this game but it was hard to make a clear analysis. There weren't individual posts that matched, more of overall trends. The key though is, die_meatbaby doesn't really know what to do as mafia. She was mafia in a game that was aborted, and then her first "full" game as mafia was Winter Warfare Mafia, about six months ago, which is the game I was referring to. In this game, she went on a huge crusade about Palmar being mafia, and hid behind emotional responses (mostly anger). This is why I say that she doesn't know how to play as scum, because she didn't play the game "normally," just focused on one scumread for literally the entire game. This game, it's different. Let's assume for the moment that die_meatbaby is indeed mafia here. She can't play the same way she did as last game, because that could only work once. In other words, can't use emotion to cover up not playing, can't hide behind one single scumread the whole game. So what can she do? The answer is the excuses for inactivity/not scumhunting (see here if you want to know what I am talking about). That's an excuse more frequently than every eight posts. This is absolutely ridiculous, and I am really struggling to see how this could come from town. Furthermore, she's consistently avoided responding to the reasons people are bringing up to scumread her. Just posting about something else (usually how she's not able to play). This makes me think that the reasons are accurate, and she has no explanation. Are there any reasons to not lynch die_meatbaby? I'm trying to think of ways this could be wrong, and sometimes I have doubts, but never any reasons to actually townread her. If she is actually town and is playing like this (or rather, not playing like this), I don't see how anyone could ever realistically figure out that she is town. I'll keep thinking about it, but if this is true, there's a huge risk if we let die_meatbaby live, and the issue just isn't going to go away.
I did a quick read and search of her filter on some of what you said in the Winter game. You were part of that game too I noticed.
One of the things I also wanted to look at is searching for scum names (Chez and rayn) - she has almost zero interaction with the other mafia in the thread. It's almost always with other townies.
Now I want to see if the same is true here.
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On June 11 2024 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Ok.
##unvote
##vote Sandroba
People who think I am town.
I don't think it is smart to lynch Vivax.
Sandroba is a way better placeholder.
Fair.
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On June 11 2024 05:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Wow, I like this analysis, the high incidence of the excuses and the not knowing what to do theory explains her mindset from a mafia perspective very neatly. Furthermore I am inclined to agree with the argument that she even somehow townie we won't even be in a better spot to figure out her alignment, as opposed to koshi and rayn, who although are very high ev lynch we can assume our accuracy on them as the days go by will increase. Let's drive this one home.
##unvote
##vote: dmb Man... I need to drag out a conversation with you. It's painful as fuck for me. You call me 100% mafia. And now you don't vote me? Dafuq.
I still think you are mafia. But I also think dmb is mafia. And I think trfel's case on dmb has more pull.
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On June 11 2024 05:10 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:08 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Wow, I like this analysis, the high incidence of the excuses and the not knowing what to do theory explains her mindset from a mafia perspective very neatly. Furthermore I am inclined to agree with the argument that she even somehow townie we won't even be in a better spot to figure out her alignment, as opposed to koshi and rayn, who although are very high ev lynch we can assume our accuracy on them as the days go by will increase. Let's drive this one home.
##unvote
##vote: dmb Man... I need to drag out a conversation with you. It's painful as fuck for me. You call me 100% mafia. And now you don't vote me? Dafuq. I still think you are mafia. But I also think dmb is mafia. And I think trfel's case on dmb has more pull.
More than your own 100% read? wow
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On June 11 2024 05:10 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:08 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Wow, I like this analysis, the high incidence of the excuses and the not knowing what to do theory explains her mindset from a mafia perspective very neatly. Furthermore I am inclined to agree with the argument that she even somehow townie we won't even be in a better spot to figure out her alignment, as opposed to koshi and rayn, who although are very high ev lynch we can assume our accuracy on them as the days go by will increase. Let's drive this one home.
##unvote
##vote: dmb Man... I need to drag out a conversation with you. It's painful as fuck for me. You call me 100% mafia. And now you don't vote me? Dafuq. I still think you are mafia. But I also think dmb is mafia. And I think trfel's case on dmb has more pull.
Well I'm fairly confident that Koshi's town unless he super pocketed me but I don't buy that.
And you think I'm townish from one of your recent posts posts.
So that makes me slightly confused as well.
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On June 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Best reasoning for rayn mafia is:
He didn't seem to be eager to be in the towncircle with marv and I.
And you guys are all blind for not seeing marv and I were going to be BFFs
Are you insane i thought marv is mafia most of the night?
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On June 10 2024 07:22 Koshi wrote:No I am going to bed. I dont like sandroba because there is 0 emotion in his play. Very analytical posts, no "wrong or cheap" stuff to figure out the game. I dont know. It almost looks too stereotypical one sided to be mafia. Like... why would you play mafia like that. This is Koshi's reason for sandroba being mafia? Plus small filter? And that's it?
Disappointing.
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On June 11 2024 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Best reasoning for rayn mafia is:
He didn't seem to be eager to be in the towncircle with marv and I.
And you guys are all blind for not seeing marv and I were going to be BFFs Are you insane i thought marv is mafia most of the night?
really? marv with his 15 page filter?????
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On June 11 2024 05:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 07:22 Koshi wrote:On June 10 2024 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
anyone here? No I am going to bed. I dont like sandroba because there is 0 emotion in his play. Very analytical posts, no "wrong or cheap" stuff to figure out the game. I dont know. It almost looks too stereotypical one sided to be mafia. Like... why would you play mafia like that. This is Koshi's reason for sandroba being mafia? Plus small filter? And that's it? Disappointing.
I would prefer it if you vote me over dmb. Because I will defend myself.
Now you are going to bury a townie and mafia will sit in your ass.
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Ooooooffff I am back. The game makes sense again.
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yes, dod you reqd anythig i posted during n1?
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On June 11 2024 05:09 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 04:54 Trfel wrote:Was trying to analyze die_meatbaby's last game as mafia to compare it to this game but it was hard to make a clear analysis. There weren't individual posts that matched, more of overall trends. The key though is, die_meatbaby doesn't really know what to do as mafia. She was mafia in a game that was aborted, and then her first "full" game as mafia was Winter Warfare Mafia, about six months ago, which is the game I was referring to. In this game, she went on a huge crusade about Palmar being mafia, and hid behind emotional responses (mostly anger). This is why I say that she doesn't know how to play as scum, because she didn't play the game "normally," just focused on one scumread for literally the entire game. This game, it's different. Let's assume for the moment that die_meatbaby is indeed mafia here. She can't play the same way she did as last game, because that could only work once. In other words, can't use emotion to cover up not playing, can't hide behind one single scumread the whole game. So what can she do? The answer is the excuses for inactivity/not scumhunting (see here if you want to know what I am talking about). That's an excuse more frequently than every eight posts. This is absolutely ridiculous, and I am really struggling to see how this could come from town. Furthermore, she's consistently avoided responding to the reasons people are bringing up to scumread her. Just posting about something else (usually how she's not able to play). This makes me think that the reasons are accurate, and she has no explanation. Are there any reasons to not lynch die_meatbaby? I'm trying to think of ways this could be wrong, and sometimes I have doubts, but never any reasons to actually townread her. If she is actually town and is playing like this (or rather, not playing like this), I don't see how anyone could ever realistically figure out that she is town. I'll keep thinking about it, but if this is true, there's a huge risk if we let die_meatbaby live, and the issue just isn't going to go away. I did a quick read and search of her filter on some of what you said in the Winter game. You were part of that game too I noticed. One of the things I also wanted to look at is searching for scum names (Chez and rayn) - she has almost zero interaction with the other mafia in the thread. It's almost always with other townies. Now I want to see if the same is true here.
Besides a lot of chatting with AZ - my theory is reasonably correct from my point of view.
Hmmm
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Yeah I was right. It is Mocsta Sandroba and then maybe Slam.
This Vivax excursion was terrible.
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On June 11 2024 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes, dod you reqd anythig i posted during n1?
No I read till page 24 and then only did what I typed in the thread.
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On June 11 2024 05:14 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:13 Trfel wrote:On June 10 2024 07:22 Koshi wrote:On June 10 2024 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
anyone here? No I am going to bed. I dont like sandroba because there is 0 emotion in his play. Very analytical posts, no "wrong or cheap" stuff to figure out the game. I dont know. It almost looks too stereotypical one sided to be mafia. Like... why would you play mafia like that. This is Koshi's reason for sandroba being mafia? Plus small filter? And that's it? Disappointing. I would prefer it if you vote me over dmb. Because I will defend myself. Now you are going to bury a townie and mafia will sit in your ass. I'm still not sure where to end up. I like the die_meatbaby vote right now but could absolutely be wrong, or something else could definitely be better.
Just can't do it all instantly.
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On June 11 2024 05:12 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:10 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2024 05:08 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Wow, I like this analysis, the high incidence of the excuses and the not knowing what to do theory explains her mindset from a mafia perspective very neatly. Furthermore I am inclined to agree with the argument that she even somehow townie we won't even be in a better spot to figure out her alignment, as opposed to koshi and rayn, who although are very high ev lynch we can assume our accuracy on them as the days go by will increase. Let's drive this one home.
##unvote
##vote: dmb Man... I need to drag out a conversation with you. It's painful as fuck for me. You call me 100% mafia. And now you don't vote me? Dafuq. I still think you are mafia. But I also think dmb is mafia. And I think trfel's case on dmb has more pull. Well I'm fairly confident that Koshi's town unless he super pocketed me but I don't buy that. And you think I'm townish from one of your recent posts posts. So that makes me slightly confused as well.
What are you confused about?
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On June 11 2024 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes, dod you reqd anythig i posted during n1?
rayn can we be friends and solve the game?
sandroba mocsta and slam?
What do you think?
What is this obsession with AZ
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On June 11 2024 05:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Best reasoning for rayn mafia is:
He didn't seem to be eager to be in the towncircle with marv and I.
And you guys are all blind for not seeing marv and I were going to be BFFs Are you insane i thought marv is mafia most of the night? really? marv with his 15 page filter?????
Why do people think filter size is an alignment factor???
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