Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 13

On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter.

On June 10 2024 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because i like to talk with someone in private.
I know where youre getting at, not a good point.
I'd know that a mafia and it would be a bad thing for me.

If you think i am lying about my responsibilities and time constraints outside the game just say so. Thats a valid case, unfortunately wrong, but i cant do anything about it if peoplechoose to believe you.

On June 10 2024 07:35 marvellosity wrote:

He can accept your answer

I did, it’s just NAI

On June 10 2024 07:42 marvellosity wrote:

Why? If I can accept the answer so can he. Of course he can.

On June 10 2024 07:47 marvellosity wrote:

So are you saying your answer was unsatisfactory?

On June 10 2024 07:48 marvellosity wrote:

Yes my opinion hasn’t changed

On June 10 2024 07:51 marvellosity wrote:

You know very well I don’t have a 17 page filter n1

I tried hard in that 13 page filter in a several day long game as mafia

On June 10 2024 07:55 marvellosity wrote:

I haven’t had that thing that makes me sure you’re town.

But I can’t see any reason for you to be mafia either.

So here we are

I still love you lots though

On June 10 2024 07:55 Trfel wrote:
Honestly my first impression is that Vivax and die_meatbaby are trying to distance from each other.

Could be that just one of them is mafia, or I guess maybe that neither is mafia, but I think both could also be mafia. I have reason to think they both (individually, separately) could be mafia, and very little reason to think otherwise.

Just seems like the most plausible explanation is one (or even both) of them decided to try and clutter the thread to defend themselves/distract from the actual arguments against them.

@raynpelikoneet, I disagree that sandroba's posting was great when he was here. It was.... okay at best imo? But I don't think there's anything special about it. That doesn't mean he has to be mafia, but a lack of interesting or insightful thoughts, combined with nonexistent activity/involvement, is a reasonable case.

On June 10 2024 08:04 Trfel wrote:
What?

Maybe I phrased it poorly. What I meant was, it seems like they are both mafia, and realized that they're associating too closely and "fought" to try and change that. I know that's unflipped association, but it was my first thought.*

If you really want to say that they did this due to your advice, I mean sure, I can lynch you after them

*Asterisk means: as I thought about it more, I still think that the argument makes sense if only one of them is mafia, baiting the other one into the argument but overall accomplishing the purpose of cluttering the thread and distracting from the actual arguments at hand.

Didn't you say sandroba's posting looked good or towny or something more positive? I forget the exact word. I wouldn't really attribute anything positive to it though, it felt solidly meh/null range. I was just bring it up since I think sandroba is very much worth considering, and you and marvellosity are the ones I think might benefit from reconsidering it.

On June 10 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote:
I'm very confused by this, I provide reasons to suspect them, then they clutter up the thread with nonsense, after which you say it makes me look bad?

How does it make me look bad when my suspects are acting anti-town?

On June 10 2024 08:08 Vivax wrote:
I want to whack someone on the head with a baguette why

On June 10 2024 08:13 Trfel wrote:
I mean you did encourage them, but it's still their choice, no?

I don't like trying to characterize arguments as TvT or whatever, I think it's very difficult to do accurately with little reward.

Maybe a better approach is this:
Ignore the whole argument thing, it's hard to make sense of and it doesn't matter. There are reasons to suspect both Vivax and die_meatbaby individually that I think are well worth exploring, and I would like to go back to discussing those reasons. I'm not sure both are mafia, or even that one is, but they're both in my top suspects, so I would like to focus on that please.

In addition to the aforementioned reasons for Vivax, he's posted a lot, but I find his posts very uninspiring. I don't think there is anything he said that's particularly insightful, or anything he did that is particularly interesting. And he's had plenty of opportunity to do so. This is very subjective, so if you disagree that's fine, but I'd at least like a bit of evidence to back it up. Like, there are several, separate compelling reasons to lynch Vivax, I am not going to just let this slide.