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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2166
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2168
On June 10 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.


You literally agreed with it when you first came into the thread.
So what changed?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:58 GMT
#2170
On June 10 2024 08:56 Vivax wrote:
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On June 10 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote:
People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed.


It‘s really irritating to mafia though.

They‘ll be like ‚tell me why‘ and put on the backstreet boys because they don‘t know how to answer


No it’s bad for town because mafia can say whatever and not be accountable. It should be policy lynch able in all honesty.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:00 GMT
#2172
On June 10 2024 08:59 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 10 2024 07:51 Trfel wrote:
@Scott31337, can I ask about this part of your case in particular?
Here he casts more doubt - I lynched my top scumread and that flipped town, so let's go for my #2 scumread!
Now from AZ's perspective if he's mafia (and I still believe he is) he would consider his scrumreads town (Unless they are terrible). Sandroba is a good example.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. Particularly the second sentence.
The rest of the case I think I see what you're trying to say, but you lost me here.

Trfel-
So what I was trying to say is that from AZ's perspective, I'm just going in order of my scum list (In his eyes, his townlist) just to get mislynch #1, #2, #3, GG etc. But I'm going after who I believe has the best chance of flipping mafia.

And the second part is that AZ considers his mafia team town (I think I used the wrong word there, not scumreads) to protect them. Sandroba is a good example of such.


You know I’m number 2 right. And Kelsier was town’.

So already I know that is two townies. And that’s all I really mentioned in that post you quoted.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:01 GMT
#2174
Scott who is getting night killed in your opinion?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:03 GMT
#2177
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


With what?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:05 GMT
#2180
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


I want to know why you think Scott is town and what changed from you being on the same page as me In regards to him to you then town reading him and being suspicious of me.

Cause it seemed it was just that vivax and koshi posted it and you sheeped them
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:06 GMT
#2181
On June 10 2024 09:03 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 10 2024 09:01 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott who is getting night killed in your opinion?


I'll have it in my EoN post. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure mafia saw what I saw, but just in case they didn't, there's no need for me to help them.


And how was this related to being answer why you thought I was mafia?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:26 GMT
#2190
On June 10 2024 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2024 09:05 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


I want to know why you think Scott is town and what changed from you being on the same page as me In regards to him to you then town reading him and being suspicious of me.

Cause it seemed it was just that vivax and koshi posted it and you sheeped them

his case on p104, and i made up my mind on p105.


You thought his case was bad?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:35 GMT
#2192
I agree trfel. that is a good post.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:45 GMT
#2194
Medic toss a coin between trfel and Marv.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:49 GMT
#2196
On June 10 2024 09:46 Trfel wrote:
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On June 10 2024 09:45 AlphaZero wrote:
Medic toss a coin between trfel and Marv.
Marvellosity or you 100% imo, town needs a leader.


You have been leading. Keep it up.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:03 GMT
#2203
On June 10 2024 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote:
I agree trfel. that is a good post.

Not good post


Why?
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:10 GMT
#2209
On June 10 2024 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:03 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote:
I agree trfel. that is a good post.

Not good post


Why?

The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly.
Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct


I’m pretty sure Rayn scum hunts at night.



I don’t agree that the other points aren’t valid. He is picking up on stuff that was bothering me at least
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:21 GMT
#2219
On June 10 2024 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On June 10 2024 10:10 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:03 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote:
I agree trfel. that is a good post.

Not good post


Why?

The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly.
Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct
For the first part, raynpelikoneet literally said that if scott31337 is town, the whole thing about AlphaZero and marvellosity is meaningless. Even if you disagree, this is what raynpelikoneet thought, so shouldn't he play as if that is true?

The other points are more subjective I guess, but your first claim is just definitively wrong if I am reading it correctly.

Semantics, rayn clearly argued regardless of Scott’s alignment



No he didn’t.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:29 GMT
#2223
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:34 GMT
#2224
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:46 GMT
#2232
On June 10 2024 10:41 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 10 2024 10:34 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.


He just posted Mocsta in red also.


Yeah but that kind of felt like hyperbole to me.

But fair point.
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AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:53 GMT
#2235
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:58 GMT
#2237
On June 10 2024 10:54 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 10 2024 10:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,



You would lynch DMB over Slam?


It’s close but yeah
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