• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:29
CEST 07:29
KST 14:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play0Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)61ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo28Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Enough with this crap patch: boring and suck! Possible bug in the new patch? Map Pool Suggestion For 1v1 HackErIsTop take on Patch 5.0.16 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June BSL Season 22 BW General Discussion STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Games for Kids Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8600 users

Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 13

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 38 Next All
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2166
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2168
On June 10 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.


You literally agreed with it when you first came into the thread.
So what changed?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:58 GMT
#2170
On June 10 2024 08:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote:
People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed.


It‘s really irritating to mafia though.

They‘ll be like ‚tell me why‘ and put on the backstreet boys because they don‘t know how to answer


No it’s bad for town because mafia can say whatever and not be accountable. It should be policy lynch able in all honesty.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:00 GMT
#2172
On June 10 2024 08:59 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:51 Trfel wrote:
@Scott31337, can I ask about this part of your case in particular?
Here he casts more doubt - I lynched my top scumread and that flipped town, so let's go for my #2 scumread!
Now from AZ's perspective if he's mafia (and I still believe he is) he would consider his scrumreads town (Unless they are terrible). Sandroba is a good example.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. Particularly the second sentence.
The rest of the case I think I see what you're trying to say, but you lost me here.

Trfel-
So what I was trying to say is that from AZ's perspective, I'm just going in order of my scum list (In his eyes, his townlist) just to get mislynch #1, #2, #3, GG etc. But I'm going after who I believe has the best chance of flipping mafia.

And the second part is that AZ considers his mafia team town (I think I used the wrong word there, not scumreads) to protect them. Sandroba is a good example of such.


You know I’m number 2 right. And Kelsier was town’.

So already I know that is two townies. And that’s all I really mentioned in that post you quoted.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:01 GMT
#2174
Scott who is getting night killed in your opinion?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:03 GMT
#2177
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


With what?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:05 GMT
#2180
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


I want to know why you think Scott is town and what changed from you being on the same page as me In regards to him to you then town reading him and being suspicious of me.

Cause it seemed it was just that vivax and koshi posted it and you sheeped them
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:06 GMT
#2181
On June 10 2024 09:03 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 09:01 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott who is getting night killed in your opinion?


I'll have it in my EoN post. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure mafia saw what I saw, but just in case they didn't, there's no need for me to help them.


And how was this related to being answer why you thought I was mafia?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:26 GMT
#2190
On June 10 2024 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 09:05 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


I want to know why you think Scott is town and what changed from you being on the same page as me In regards to him to you then town reading him and being suspicious of me.

Cause it seemed it was just that vivax and koshi posted it and you sheeped them

his case on p104, and i made up my mind on p105.


You thought his case was bad?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:35 GMT
#2192
I agree trfel. that is a good post.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:45 GMT
#2194
Medic toss a coin between trfel and Marv.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:49 GMT
#2196
On June 10 2024 09:46 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 09:45 AlphaZero wrote:
Medic toss a coin between trfel and Marv.
Marvellosity or you 100% imo, town needs a leader.


You have been leading. Keep it up.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:03 GMT
#2203
On June 10 2024 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote:
I agree trfel. that is a good post.

Not good post


Why?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:10 GMT
#2209
On June 10 2024 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:03 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote:
I agree trfel. that is a good post.

Not good post


Why?

The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly.
Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct


I’m pretty sure Rayn scum hunts at night.



I don’t agree that the other points aren’t valid. He is picking up on stuff that was bothering me at least
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:21 GMT
#2219
On June 10 2024 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:10 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:03 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote:
I agree trfel. that is a good post.

Not good post


Why?

The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly.
Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct
For the first part, raynpelikoneet literally said that if scott31337 is town, the whole thing about AlphaZero and marvellosity is meaningless. Even if you disagree, this is what raynpelikoneet thought, so shouldn't he play as if that is true?

The other points are more subjective I guess, but your first claim is just definitively wrong if I am reading it correctly.

Semantics, rayn clearly argued regardless of Scott’s alignment



No he didn’t.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:29 GMT
#2223
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:34 GMT
#2224
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:46 GMT
#2232
On June 10 2024 10:41 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:34 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.


He just posted Mocsta in red also.


Yeah but that kind of felt like hyperbole to me.

But fair point.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:53 GMT
#2235
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:58 GMT
#2237
On June 10 2024 10:54 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,



You would lynch DMB over Slam?


It’s close but yeah
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 38 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Douyu Cup 2020
05:00
2026 - Day 1
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
CranKy Ducklings126
IndyStarCraft 38
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft629
WinterStarcraft609
RuFF_SC2 196
NeuroSwarm 177
Nina 66
StateSC2 56
IndyStarCraft 38
ProTech6
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2879
GuemChi 2625
Shuttle 757
Leta 403
Mind 242
ZergMaN 31
yabsab 26
Bale 26
Icarus 9
League of Legends
JimRising 689
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv586
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox798
Other Games
summit1g6658
C9.Mang0252
Mew2King111
ViBE111
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick865
BasetradeTV299
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP37
• practicex 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1324
• Rush1266
• Stunt513
Upcoming Events
OSC
10h 31m
Douyu Cup 2020
23h 31m
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 23h
Maestros of the Game
2 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Online Event
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-24
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.