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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:08 GMT
#1548
I’m attempting a hungover workout shortly so will get patchier with replies
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:14 GMT
#1550
Stop with the compliments already x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:19 GMT
#1552
Don’t tell anyone, but the secret is it’s all just hubris.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:21 GMT
#1553
On June 09 2024 22:17 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
Stop with the compliments already x
Dang, if not being an idiot is a compliment, you must not have as big of an ego as I thought

If anyone has a moment, curious if my perspective on scott31337 not re-evaluating his reads makes sense to anyone else? While it makes a lot of sense to me, if I'm wrong about this, it would be good to figure that out.

I’m struggling to make much of it either way?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:25 GMT
#1558
On June 09 2024 22:23 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 22:21 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:17 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
Stop with the compliments already x
Dang, if not being an idiot is a compliment, you must not have as big of an ego as I thought

If anyone has a moment, curious if my perspective on scott31337 not re-evaluating his reads makes sense to anyone else? While it makes a lot of sense to me, if I'm wrong about this, it would be good to figure that out.

I’m struggling to make much of it either way?
Hm.... I was thinking people would either strongly agree or disagree, how can you be stuck in the middle?

I don’t know how to answer this without being circular

Could he still hold those reads as town? Yes I think so
Could he be mafia sticking with the same reads? Yes why not

Am I missing something fundamental?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:27 GMT
#1561
On June 09 2024 22:24 AlphaZero wrote:
mav what is the liklihood of trfel being mafia in your opinion?

Low

He just seems incredibly interested and thinking about the game a lot. And from different perspectives too.

If Trfel is mafia he’s pocketed me completely
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:28 GMT
#1564
On June 09 2024 22:28 AlphaZero wrote:
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On June 09 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 AlphaZero wrote:
mav what is the liklihood of trfel being mafia in your opinion?

Low

He just seems incredibly interested and thinking about the game a lot. And from different perspectives too.

If Trfel is mafia he’s pocketed me completely


He is not really doing this beyond face value.

He still wanted to lynch kels and save scott, despite good reasons to not want that.

I just don’t agree.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:29 GMT
#1566
People can be wrong
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:29 GMT
#1568
On June 09 2024 22:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:23 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:21 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:17 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
Stop with the compliments already x
Dang, if not being an idiot is a compliment, you must not have as big of an ego as I thought

If anyone has a moment, curious if my perspective on scott31337 not re-evaluating his reads makes sense to anyone else? While it makes a lot of sense to me, if I'm wrong about this, it would be good to figure that out.

I’m struggling to make much of it either way?
Hm.... I was thinking people would either strongly agree or disagree, how can you be stuck in the middle?

I don’t know how to answer this without being circular

Could he still hold those reads as town? Yes I think so
Could he be mafia sticking with the same reads? Yes why not

Am I missing something fundamental?
Oh, sure. I didn't mean to say that it makes scott31337 town, my point is that if you were to construct a town mindset for scott31337's play, sticking to his reads is very natural imo. And thus I don't think it's a good reason to suspect him.

Basically the conclusion is "this argument isn't very good" instead of "this makes scott31337 town."

Oh I see. I think we agree then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:30 GMT
#1569
On June 09 2024 22:29 AlphaZero wrote:
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On June 09 2024 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:28 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 AlphaZero wrote:
mav what is the liklihood of trfel being mafia in your opinion?

Low

He just seems incredibly interested and thinking about the game a lot. And from different perspectives too.

If Trfel is mafia he’s pocketed me completely


He is not really doing this beyond face value.

He still wanted to lynch kels and save scott, despite good reasons to not want that.

I just don’t agree.


when has he changed anything substantial based on considering another perspective?

It’s only n1
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:31 GMT
#1571
On June 09 2024 22:31 Trfel wrote:
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On June 09 2024 22:26 AlphaZero wrote:
I don't understand the trfel hard defense of scott at all.

He is not able to get a town read that strong, its really off-putting.
I mean I do feel kinda bad because the dude can't adequately defend himself, which makes me feel like someone ought to?

It’s a good trait.

Only if they’re town though :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:35 GMT
#1574
AZ, I understand what and why you’re getting at, I really do. I just don’t see it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:40 GMT
#1577
On June 09 2024 22:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 22:28 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:23 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:21 marvellosity wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:17 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
Stop with the compliments already x
Dang, if not being an idiot is a compliment, you must not have as big of an ego as I thought

If anyone has a moment, curious if my perspective on scott31337 not re-evaluating his reads makes sense to anyone else? While it makes a lot of sense to me, if I'm wrong about this, it would be good to figure that out.

I’m struggling to make much of it either way?
Hm.... I was thinking people would either strongly agree or disagree, how can you be stuck in the middle?

I don’t know how to answer this without being circular

Could he still hold those reads as town? Yes I think so
Could he be mafia sticking with the same reads? Yes why not

Am I missing something fundamental?
Oh, sure. I didn't mean to say that it makes scott31337 town, my point is that if you were to construct a town mindset for scott31337's play, sticking to his reads is very natural imo. And thus I don't think it's a good reason to suspect him.

Basically the conclusion is "this argument isn't very good" instead of "this makes scott31337 town."



The problem is not that he is making bad arguments that has never been the problem. You guys are fucking reductionist paraphrasing to the point of losing the essence of the original issue.

Then you come up with this nonsense about bad arguments can come from town. No shit.

That is not why he is mafia. He is mafia because he doesn’t show evidence of Thinking and read progression that is essential to find and catch scum in a game of hidden information.

I am going to trust Marv that you are town. But I also think you are being actively harmful to town progress at this point so can you please put as much effort into finding some mafia as you do defending mafia.




To paraphrase something I said about my own read on Scott. Are your expectations of him wrong?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 13:56 GMT
#1585
Deep breaths AZ xx
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 14:03 GMT
#1590
On June 09 2024 23:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:52 Trfel wrote:
On June 09 2024 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote:
@AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything.

@marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear.

Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this.

@Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow?

Because kel is an infinitely easier lynch tmr?
You think so? I think scott31337 is a pretty easy lynch tomorrow (or at any point), but I could see that being wrong I suppose. Other than me and rsoultin, I don't think anyone was particularly vocal about not lynching scott31337?
@AlphaZero, I don't really have much to add. I tend to be right when I defend people suspected by most of the game, I think there was one time I was wrong maybe? But maybe you're right, I can stop, if scott31337 dies then so be it.
Dmb wouldn't vote Scott

It was literally in the post you last responded to me about

I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy
She said she wouldn't lynch scott31337 at this time but left the door wide, wide open for doing so in the future. So I wouldn't consider that a deterrent for future lynches.

Yes, I agree that die_meatbaby could definitely be mafia.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 10:01 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.

Vote:vivax



Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.

For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?

Source on the mafia meta read?


Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game?

I’d go after you no? Why would I go after vivax? Answer the question please


I just wanted to remind you
you cannot make the same bs twice
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 10:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 08 2024 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
i mean the having icky vibes off az i can identify with but maybe your time would be better spent catching up if you're just throwing shade at oats because he was pushing you as mafia in an earlier game


I am not pushing him as mafia(atm). i just wanted to remind him that some things should not be done twice
Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, but these posts are at least worth looking into? Why would die_meatbaby, as town, warn someone not to do something that would give them away as mafia?

Yes. It’s weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 14:37 GMT
#1606
It’s not great is it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 15:46 GMT
#1620
On June 10 2024 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2024 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 09 2024 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I have a townread on dmb fwiw. She seems very relaxed tonally.

I‘d like a doc on marv.
I‘d like rayn to play the game.

I love GabeN

From her 3 posts in the last 24 hours?


She‘s a busy bee

Not really sure how posting the same thing essentially 3-4 times is “relaxed tonally”, can you explain and present an example of mafia dmb please

I agree with this, I don’t get the tone read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 15:47 GMT
#1621
If anything she seems the opposite of relaxed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 16:05 GMT
#1624
On June 10 2024 01:00 Vivax wrote:
What I mean by relaxed is that I don‘t believe she‘s faking the effort.

That‘s ultimately what it comes down to. We‘re eliminating players we think are faking their effort.

I‘m on the lookout for stuff that comes across as forced and I don‘t see it in her.

There’s no effort to fake, so that tracks…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 16:06 GMT
#1626
On June 10 2024 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll be here in about 15minutes.

Not really interested in reading what i have missed suringtve night based on latest games.

Worth reading imo
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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