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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 22:54 GMT
#2101
On June 10 2024 07:36 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:00 Koshi wrote:
Sandro, Slam, Mocsta
(AZ instead of Mocsta but only because so many of you say it, they are not mafia together)
Definitely not scum together

Like can you at least read my end of day1 filter if you are going to keep this up

Yes where I transition to my former townread and your current townread scott


So do you think none of them are mafia? Obviously you aren't going to include yourself, I get that.
sorry I was being selfish

I meant az and me

I gotta break out of this habit! Thanks for the follow up
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 09 2024 22:55 GMT
#2102
On June 10 2024 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax go with me on sandroba, mocsta, az, ok?


Ok give me a moment to take my clothes off
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 22:55 GMT
#2103
On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter.
yeah yeah all this is a setup to say I'm playing very bad when town

Hopefully see you on d2
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 22:55 GMT
#2104
On June 10 2024 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no marv, you owe me one post on AZ because noone else will give it.
Town or what?

Yes my opinion hasn’t changed

okay, for the record i do think youre most likely town atm, so i have a bit of self-searching to do here....

we'll see.

You know very well I don’t have a 17 page filter n1

I tried hard in that 13 page filter in a several day long game as mafia

sure yes, that doesnt make you right anyways, since i feel like most of the game you have been calling me mafia withoug calling me mafia

I haven’t had that thing that makes me sure you’re town.

But I can’t see any reason for you to be mafia either.

So here we are

I still love you lots though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 22:55 GMT
#2105
Honestly my first impression is that Vivax and die_meatbaby are trying to distance from each other.

Could be that just one of them is mafia, or I guess maybe that neither is mafia, but I think both could also be mafia. I have reason to think they both (individually, separately) could be mafia, and very little reason to think otherwise.

Just seems like the most plausible explanation is one (or even both) of them decided to try and clutter the thread to defend themselves/distract from the actual arguments against them.

@raynpelikoneet, I disagree that sandroba's posting was great when he was here. It was.... okay at best imo? But I don't think there's anything special about it. That doesn't mean he has to be mafia, but a lack of interesting or insightful thoughts, combined with nonexistent activity/involvement, is a reasonable case.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 09 2024 22:56 GMT
#2106
On June 10 2024 07:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax go with me on sandroba, mocsta, az, ok?


Ok give me a moment to take my clothes off


Ah yes I have to mark it as joke for correctness
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 22:56 GMT
#2107
On June 10 2024 07:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no marv, you owe me one post on AZ because noone else will give it.
Town or what?

Yes my opinion hasn’t changed

okay, for the record i do think youre most likely town atm, so i have a bit of self-searching to do here....

we'll see.

You know very well I don’t have a 17 page filter n1

I tried hard in that 13 page filter in a several day long game as mafia

sure yes, that doesnt make you right anyways, since i feel like most of the game you have been calling me mafia withoug calling me mafia

I haven’t had that thing that makes me sure you’re town.

But I can’t see any reason for you to be mafia either.

So here we are

I still love you lots though

It's okay, if you're town i have had my bad moments as well this game.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2024 22:58 GMT
#2108
On June 10 2024 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:55 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no marv, you owe me one post on AZ because noone else will give it.
Town or what?

Yes my opinion hasn’t changed

okay, for the record i do think youre most likely town atm, so i have a bit of self-searching to do here....

we'll see.

You know very well I don’t have a 17 page filter n1

I tried hard in that 13 page filter in a several day long game as mafia

sure yes, that doesnt make you right anyways, since i feel like most of the game you have been calling me mafia withoug calling me mafia

I haven’t had that thing that makes me sure you’re town.

But I can’t see any reason for you to be mafia either.

So here we are

I still love you lots though

It's okay, if you're town i have had my bad moments as well this game.

We’ve only really played together 24h, not the usual 72 by now. Need to remember that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 22:59 GMT
#2109
On June 10 2024 07:55 Trfel wrote:
Honestly my first impression is that Vivax and die_meatbaby are trying to distance from each other.

Could be that just one of them is mafia, or I guess maybe that neither is mafia, but I think both could also be mafia. I have reason to think they both (individually, separately) could be mafia, and very little reason to think otherwise.

Just seems like the most plausible explanation is one (or even both) of them decided to try and clutter the thread to defend themselves/distract from the actual arguments against them.

i literally adviced them to do so, if you didnt catch that?
Why are you making this argument?
If you have to blame anyone, blame me for their "show"...

@raynpelikoneet, I disagree that sandroba's posting was great when he was here. It was.... okay at best imo? But I don't think there's anything special about it. That doesn't mean he has to be mafia, but a lack of interesting or insightful thoughts, combined with nonexistent activity/involvement, is a reasonable case.

i didn't say great. and i can't say he looks townie now when not posting. noone can.
If you think sandroba is mafia, go ahead. I am just talking about what i know when people were posting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:00 GMT
#2110
Vivax/DMB is argument is really bad looking for Trfel tbh.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 23:04 GMT
#2111
On June 10 2024 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:55 Trfel wrote:
Honestly my first impression is that Vivax and die_meatbaby are trying to distance from each other.

Could be that just one of them is mafia, or I guess maybe that neither is mafia, but I think both could also be mafia. I have reason to think they both (individually, separately) could be mafia, and very little reason to think otherwise.

Just seems like the most plausible explanation is one (or even both) of them decided to try and clutter the thread to defend themselves/distract from the actual arguments against them.

i literally adviced them to do so, if you didnt catch that?
Why are you making this argument?
If you have to blame anyone, blame me for their "show"...

Show nested quote +
@raynpelikoneet, I disagree that sandroba's posting was great when he was here. It was.... okay at best imo? But I don't think there's anything special about it. That doesn't mean he has to be mafia, but a lack of interesting or insightful thoughts, combined with nonexistent activity/involvement, is a reasonable case.

i didn't say great. and i can't say he looks townie now when not posting. noone can.
If you think sandroba is mafia, go ahead. I am just talking about what i know when people were posting.
What?

Maybe I phrased it poorly. What I meant was, it seems like they are both mafia, and realized that they're associating too closely and "fought" to try and change that. I know that's unflipped association, but it was my first thought.*

If you really want to say that they did this due to your advice, I mean sure, I can lynch you after them

*Asterisk means: as I thought about it more, I still think that the argument makes sense if only one of them is mafia, baiting the other one into the argument but overall accomplishing the purpose of cluttering the thread and distracting from the actual arguments at hand.

Didn't you say sandroba's posting looked good or towny or something more positive? I forget the exact word. I wouldn't really attribute anything positive to it though, it felt solidly meh/null range. I was just bring it up since I think sandroba is very much worth considering, and you and marvellosity are the ones I think might benefit from reconsidering it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 23:05 GMT
#2112
On June 10 2024 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax/DMB is argument is really bad looking for Trfel tbh.
I'm very confused by this, I provide reasons to suspect them, then they clutter up the thread with nonsense, after which you say it makes me look bad?

How does it make me look bad when my suspects are acting anti-town?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:05 GMT
#2113
On June 10 2024 08:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:55 Trfel wrote:
Honestly my first impression is that Vivax and die_meatbaby are trying to distance from each other.

Could be that just one of them is mafia, or I guess maybe that neither is mafia, but I think both could also be mafia. I have reason to think they both (individually, separately) could be mafia, and very little reason to think otherwise.

Just seems like the most plausible explanation is one (or even both) of them decided to try and clutter the thread to defend themselves/distract from the actual arguments against them.

i literally adviced them to do so, if you didnt catch that?
Why are you making this argument?
If you have to blame anyone, blame me for their "show"...

@raynpelikoneet, I disagree that sandroba's posting was great when he was here. It was.... okay at best imo? But I don't think there's anything special about it. That doesn't mean he has to be mafia, but a lack of interesting or insightful thoughts, combined with nonexistent activity/involvement, is a reasonable case.

i didn't say great. and i can't say he looks townie now when not posting. noone can.
If you think sandroba is mafia, go ahead. I am just talking about what i know when people were posting.
What?

Maybe I phrased it poorly. What I meant was, it seems like they are both mafia, and realized that they're associating too closely and "fought" to try and change that. I know that's unflipped association, but it was my first thought.*

If you really want to say that they did this due to your advice, I mean sure, I can lynch you after them

*Asterisk means: as I thought about it more, I still think that the argument makes sense if only one of them is mafia, baiting the other one into the argument but overall accomplishing the purpose of cluttering the thread and distracting from the actual arguments at hand.

Didn't you say sandroba's posting looked good or towny or something more positive? I forget the exact word. I wouldn't really attribute anything positive to it though, it felt solidly meh/null range. I was just bring it up since I think sandroba is very much worth considering, and you and marvellosity are the ones I think might benefit from reconsidering it.

I dont think they are both mafia.

I think sandroba is worth considering.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 09 2024 23:05 GMT
#2114
On June 10 2024 07:55 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter.
yeah yeah all this is a setup to say I'm playing very bad when town

Hopefully see you on d2


If Koshi dies and you‘re mafia you win an Oscar for that last part
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:07 GMT
#2115
On June 10 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax/DMB is argument is really bad looking for Trfel tbh.
I'm very confused by this, I provide reasons to suspect them, then they clutter up the thread with nonsense, after which you say it makes me look bad?

How does it make me look bad when my suspects are acting anti-town?

I literally made them to clutter up the thread.
How can you make that about them, just because "they did that"?

I didnt see anything that makes either of them mafia, i thought it was tvt. Did you?
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 09 2024 23:08 GMT
#2116
I want to whack someone on the head with a baguette why
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:11 GMT
#2117
On June 10 2024 08:08 Vivax wrote:
I want to whack someone on the head with a baguette why

do it to trfel
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 23:13 GMT
#2118
On June 10 2024 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax/DMB is argument is really bad looking for Trfel tbh.
I'm very confused by this, I provide reasons to suspect them, then they clutter up the thread with nonsense, after which you say it makes me look bad?

How does it make me look bad when my suspects are acting anti-town?

I literally made them to clutter up the thread.
How can you make that about them, just because "they did that"?

I didnt see anything that makes either of them mafia, i thought it was tvt. Did you?
I mean you did encourage them, but it's still their choice, no?

I don't like trying to characterize arguments as TvT or whatever, I think it's very difficult to do accurately with little reward.

Maybe a better approach is this:
Ignore the whole argument thing, it's hard to make sense of and it doesn't matter. There are reasons to suspect both Vivax and die_meatbaby individually that I think are well worth exploring, and I would like to go back to discussing those reasons. I'm not sure both are mafia, or even that one is, but they're both in my top suspects, so I would like to focus on that please.

In addition to the aforementioned reasons for Vivax, he's posted a lot, but I find his posts very uninspiring. I don't think there is anything he said that's particularly insightful, or anything he did that is particularly interesting. And he's had plenty of opportunity to do so. This is very subjective, so if you disagree that's fine, but I'd at least like a bit of evidence to back it up. Like, there are several, separate compelling reasons to lynch Vivax, I am not going to just let this slide.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 09 2024 23:15 GMT
#2119
On June 10 2024 08:05 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:55 Mocsta wrote:
On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter.
yeah yeah all this is a setup to say I'm playing very bad when town

Hopefully see you on d2


If Koshi dies and you‘re mafia you win an Oscar for that last part
mate you have been a town read for me probably from around the tail end of d1 when we were the only actives with rsoultin collaborating on the lynch.

What's changed? I mean you said something about wanting to vote out Scott, yet I agreed with you Scott is not a good choice d2?? Have you missed that?

I think rayn asked who I think is mafia which is lazy

I have intentionally dropped my post count and what I do have points to dmb
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:16 GMT
#2120
On June 10 2024 08:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax/DMB is argument is really bad looking for Trfel tbh.
I'm very confused by this, I provide reasons to suspect them, then they clutter up the thread with nonsense, after which you say it makes me look bad?

How does it make me look bad when my suspects are acting anti-town?

I literally made them to clutter up the thread.
How can you make that about them, just because "they did that"?

I didnt see anything that makes either of them mafia, i thought it was tvt. Did you?
I mean you did encourage them, but it's still their choice, no?

I don't like trying to characterize arguments as TvT or whatever, I think it's very difficult to do accurately with little reward.

Maybe a better approach is this:
Ignore the whole argument thing, it's hard to make sense of and it doesn't matter. There are reasons to suspect both Vivax and die_meatbaby individually that I think are well worth exploring, and I would like to go back to discussing those reasons. I'm not sure both are mafia, or even that one is, but they're both in my top suspects, so I would like to focus on that please.

In addition to the aforementioned reasons for Vivax, he's posted a lot, but I find his posts very uninspiring. I don't think there is anything he said that's particularly insightful, or anything he did that is particularly interesting. And he's had plenty of opportunity to do so. This is very subjective, so if you disagree that's fine, but I'd at least like a bit of evidence to back it up. Like, there are several, separate compelling reasons to lynch Vivax, I am not going to just let this slide.

okay, and what about DMB?
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