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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 11:38 GMT
#8101
I know it's kinda bad.

Also, CC complaining about being set up to be next in line after I (her scumread) flips town is really bad as well.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 11:51 GMT
#8102
On March 14 2024 20:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 20:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 20:27 Palmar wrote:
Need more DP in my life to help

Our schedules are the polar opposite.

I’m about to go to sleep I can post for a bit though. What’s up?


Read what I wrote about Rels' reaction to MZ case.

Read jat's initial defense.

Give thoughts.


Yeah I Thi k your analysis about Rels is spot on.


Jays initial defense looks like something that could be true as both alignments.

I have used similar arguments myself as town and as mafia.

It does sway me a little bit I’ll be honest. I want to see what he comes up with in terms of reads and views on the game.

As far as who could be more likely mafia at this point:

There is a large conglomerate of people who look roughly similarly likely to be mafia this game, which is making it difficult to sort.

Like I wouldn’t be surprised if koshi ended up mafia for example, or yourself.

I think perfection for me is at the top of that group as least likely to be mafia.

I will say I find your perfection case to be strange overall, as it is mostly from what I can tell a preflip association between JAT and perfection.

I have read enough old games to know that NOT doing that is somewhat of a mantra for you.

As far as the Poe goes there are still a lot of good reasons that I think cake is mafia and I find the resistance to the lynch incredible.

I also Think those people hard town reading her, likely to be spewing some additional information if she does turn out being town.

I think people like perfection, dmb, jealous all look much better if she flips town or if she flips mafia.

Rels has a few too many Tmi moments/ garnering cred moments.

I found his reaction to the tts flip to be particularly scummy.

Called it out to jealous in The mason chat at the time.

So I would look at something like a JAT/rels/cc team right now.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 11:52 GMT
#8103
On March 14 2024 20:38 Palmar wrote:
I know it's kinda bad.

Also, CC complaining about being set up to be next in line after I (her scumread) flips town is really bad as well.


Yes that is bad.

Add it to the super long list.

Then explain how some people can strongly town read her..

🤷
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 12:00 GMT
#8104
On March 14 2024 20:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 20:38 Palmar wrote:
I know it's kinda bad.

Also, CC complaining about being set up to be next in line after I (her scumread) flips town is really bad as well.


Yes that is bad.

Add it to the super long list.

Then explain how some people can strongly town read her..

🤷

It's the "I'm afraid to lynch an crazy townie over mafia".

Like I want her to be mafia, because that makes her smart. If she is mafia she is exploiting town's resistance to killing martyrs, she spewing bullshit reasons for everything she does and getting away with it.

But there is a reason people don't like killing martyrs and people who just think about the game in incredibly strange ways. Experience has taught us that there are plenty of people who don't act and play rationally as town.

So do we gamble on her being clever scum and not just bad town? I don't know. I'm more inclined to do it after this latest post from her.

If jat's initial defense looked a tiny bit better, CC's initial defense looked a tiny bit worse.

Sentences like JAT's "I can't help but defend myself even if I know it's not the best" sound.... kinda towny? maybe? But I don't know.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:00 GMT
#8105
You gone? I’m off to bed then.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 12:01 GMT
#8106
On March 14 2024 21:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You gone? I’m off to bed then.

Well the call needs to be made.

I think I'll lynch any into cc, jat, rels at this point.
Computer says mafia
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 12:03 GMT
#8107
On March 13 2024 18:43 Koshi wrote:
##vote Palmar
It's JAT and Palmar. I truly hope I get lynched before you jubjubs lynch either cc or MZ. Because maybe that might stop you from throwing this game.

DP, you are legit too stubborn to play this game succesfully.
Probably I am too flimsy and together we might get somewhere.

But it is not going to happen.


I am sheeping this

And VE

And jacob

I mean I am so bad at playing I should follow my superiors

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:04 GMT
#8108
On March 14 2024 21:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 20:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 20:38 Palmar wrote:
I know it's kinda bad.

Also, CC complaining about being set up to be next in line after I (her scumread) flips town is really bad as well.


Yes that is bad.

Add it to the super long list.

Then explain how some people can strongly town read her..

🤷

It's the "I'm afraid to lynch an crazy townie over mafia".

Like I want her to be mafia, because that makes her smart. If she is mafia she is exploiting town's resistance to killing martyrs, she spewing bullshit reasons for everything she does and getting away with it.

But there is a reason people don't like killing martyrs and people who just think about the game in incredibly strange ways. Experience has taught us that there are plenty of people who don't act and play rationally as town.

So do we gamble on her being clever scum and not just bad town? I don't know. I'm more inclined to do it after this latest post from her.

If jat's initial defense looked a tiny bit better, CC's initial defense looked a tiny bit worse.

Sentences like JAT's "I can't help but defend myself even if I know it's not the best" sound.... kinda towny? maybe? But I don't know.


I agree with that. At this point cake is just a liability either way imo.

I do not trust she is not mafia. I do not trust she will not get mislynched at mylo if she is town.

I think she is perfectly correct in saying that flipping her clarifies things for town.

So in that way I kind of like that post from her.

Part of me also just wants to lynch her cause she is clearly not having a good time.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 12:05 GMT
#8109
On March 14 2024 21:03 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 18:43 Koshi wrote:
##vote Palmar
It's JAT and Palmar. I truly hope I get lynched before you jubjubs lynch either cc or MZ. Because maybe that might stop you from throwing this game.

DP, you are legit too stubborn to play this game succesfully.
Probably I am too flimsy and together we might get somewhere.

But it is not going to happen.


I am sheeping this

And VE

And jacob

I mean I am so bad at playing I should follow my superiors


Yeah but now Koshi is voting something else. Stop with the self-pitying, it's a tired act.

Do you have any opinions on what has been developing over the last few pages? What do you think of jat? What do you think of my point about Rels? Do you have any updates on your read on me now that I've been pretty active in the thread for a while?
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:05 GMT
#8110
On March 14 2024 21:01 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You gone? I’m off to bed then.

Well the call needs to be made.

I think I'll lynch any into cc, jat, rels at this point.


I’m fine with all of those.

We should probably lynch whoever is least likely to survive over yourself though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 12:06 GMT
#8111
Yeah, I am not having a good time.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:08 GMT
#8112
Will you be around in 8 hours still palmar?

I’ll be back then.

Until then I’m happy to be parked on JAT and see what develops from him.

If you make a decision based on what happens while I’m asleep I’ll consider it on its merits.

I plan to be around to manage the lead up to the flip
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 12:08 GMT
#8113
On March 14 2024 21:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:03 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 18:43 Koshi wrote:
##vote Palmar
It's JAT and Palmar. I truly hope I get lynched before you jubjubs lynch either cc or MZ. Because maybe that might stop you from throwing this game.

DP, you are legit too stubborn to play this game succesfully.
Probably I am too flimsy and together we might get somewhere.

But it is not going to happen.


I am sheeping this

And VE

And jacob

I mean I am so bad at playing I should follow my superiors


Yeah but now Koshi is voting something else. Stop with the self-pitying, it's a tired act.

Do you have any opinions on what has been developing over the last few pages? What do you think of jat? What do you think of my point about Rels? Do you have any updates on your read on me now that I've been pretty active in the thread for a while?


I will post my testament when I get lynched.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 12:09 GMT
#8114
On March 14 2024 21:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:01 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 21:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You gone? I’m off to bed then.

Well the call needs to be made.

I think I'll lynch any into cc, jat, rels at this point.


I’m fine with all of those.

We should probably lynch whoever is least likely to survive over yourself though.

I kinda don't think I'm in any real danger of dying. I feel like if there is one town in MZ and Rels they will be forced to reconsider their opinion on me as the day goes on, and I almost can't believe iamp would stick with his vote on me.

I just really, really want to hit mafia today. It's gonna make my life so much easier, and it's going to be hard and I'm probably going to have to be on the forefront of the wagon targeting said mafia. And I really, really don't want to mislynch a townie and have to deal with the bullshit fallout of that.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:09 GMT
#8115
I don’t want to get off the JAT wagon right now. It all depends on what he does when he filter dives.

That man needs to make some reads.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 12:10 GMT
#8116
On March 14 2024 21:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Will you be around in 8 hours still palmar?

I’ll be back then.

Until then I’m happy to be parked on JAT and see what develops from him.

If you make a decision based on what happens while I’m asleep I’ll consider it on its merits.

I plan to be around to manage the lead up to the flip

I will try to be around in maybe 9-ish hours. That's the evening my time.

Good night man, sorry for keeping you up.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:11 GMT
#8117
On March 14 2024 21:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 21:01 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 21:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You gone? I’m off to bed then.

Well the call needs to be made.

I think I'll lynch any into cc, jat, rels at this point.


I’m fine with all of those.

We should probably lynch whoever is least likely to survive over yourself though.

I kinda don't think I'm in any real danger of dying. I feel like if there is one town in MZ and Rels they will be forced to reconsider their opinion on me as the day goes on, and I almost can't believe iamp would stick with his vote on me.

I just really, really want to hit mafia today. It's gonna make my life so much easier, and it's going to be hard and I'm probably going to have to be on the forefront of the wagon targeting said mafia. And I really, really don't want to mislynch a townie and have to deal with the bullshit fallout of that.


Yeah that makes sense.

My opinion right now is to stay the course on JAT and see what he does.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:11 GMT
#8118
On March 14 2024 21:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Will you be around in 8 hours still palmar?

I’ll be back then.

Until then I’m happy to be parked on JAT and see what develops from him.

If you make a decision based on what happens while I’m asleep I’ll consider it on its merits.

I plan to be around to manage the lead up to the flip

I will try to be around in maybe 9-ish hours. That's the evening my time.

Good night man, sorry for keeping you up.


All good not a problem. I have this issue with Rayn also.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 12:12 GMT
#8119
On March 14 2024 21:06 CopCake wrote:
Yeah, I am not having a good time.


Sorry.
😞
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 12:12 GMT
#8120
On March 14 2024 21:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:05 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 21:03 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 18:43 Koshi wrote:
##vote Palmar
It's JAT and Palmar. I truly hope I get lynched before you jubjubs lynch either cc or MZ. Because maybe that might stop you from throwing this game.

DP, you are legit too stubborn to play this game succesfully.
Probably I am too flimsy and together we might get somewhere.

But it is not going to happen.


I am sheeping this

And VE

And jacob

I mean I am so bad at playing I should follow my superiors


Yeah but now Koshi is voting something else. Stop with the self-pitying, it's a tired act.

Do you have any opinions on what has been developing over the last few pages? What do you think of jat? What do you think of my point about Rels? Do you have any updates on your read on me now that I've been pretty active in the thread for a while?


I will post my testament when I get lynched.


How about now?

This is so frustrating to deal with. If you're town why do you not want to help? What is the problem? We're trying to have a game of mafia and you've just decided that because someone said something mean to you at some point all of us need to be collectively punished and taught a lesson?

Mafia is a hard game, if you sign up, you need to play.

I don't want to mislynch you if you're town, but you're making it incredibly hard to not come to the conclusion that no one would be this selfish as town, and the reason for your demotivation is not just that you don't have the energy to defend yourself.
Computer says mafia
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