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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 13 2024 23:31 GMT
#7801
On March 14 2024 08:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok I got to say it.
If Palmar is town.
And that is still a big if.
CC is lock mafia for the n1 nks.

rayn was wrong about literally everything except CC and she would want him dead.
Sandroba was on CC as well.

That makes that DP was right all the time.
That makes rels his vote is correct.
That makes the iamp change to VE sus as fuck.

Etc

Not sure if we can take it that far but yeah.

DP will have earned the right to be absolutely insufferable if this is all correct


He can push iamperfection for ruining the cop lim why doesn‘t he ?

Prime opportunity
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 13 2024 23:33 GMT
#7802
Fuck me this game is the size of imperial.
There better be someone awarding a phd to its participants.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 13 2024 23:55 GMT
#7803
On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess?

No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.

If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.

He knew Trfel was town
He knew TTS was mafia
When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum

So much correct shit in his filter.


finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter.
There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 13 2024 23:57 GMT
#7804
On March 14 2024 08:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess?

No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.

If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.

He knew Trfel was town
He knew TTS was mafia
When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum

So much correct shit in his filter.


finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter.
There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.


Either he‘s mafia or hookers and coke gives you superpowers
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 00:03 GMT
#7805
On March 14 2024 08:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 08:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess?

No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.

If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.

He knew Trfel was town
He knew TTS was mafia
When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum

So much correct shit in his filter.


finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter.
There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.


Either he‘s mafia or hookers and coke gives you superpowers


the second part of the sentence doesn´t sound french
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 00:05 GMT
#7806
I’m around. Just woke up and gonna catch up. I’m at home so can put a lot of Time in here.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 00:06 GMT
#7807
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 14 2024 00:09 GMT
#7808
On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?


Jealous/Jat/???

go, apes together strong
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 00:15 GMT
#7809
On March 14 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?


Jealous/Jat/???

go, apes together strong


Koshi/Reels/???
Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 14 2024 00:17 GMT
#7810
On March 14 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?


Jealous/Jat/???

go, apes together strong


Koshi/Reels/???
Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.


You need to reread Koshi.
He‘s very unlikely to be mafia after he went bazooka sparklefairy today
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 00:20 GMT
#7811
Despite what I’ve said earlier, koshi constantly waffling on my alignment seems like a pretty useless thing to do as mafia.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 00:20 GMT
#7812
On March 14 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?


Jealous/Jat/???

go, apes together strong


Koshi/Reels/???
Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.


Why not JAT here

I don’t really think koshi is mafia since he started trying

Same with palmar.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 00:21 GMT
#7813
He can be an associate to my town circle.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 00:21 GMT
#7814
On March 14 2024 09:21 Palmar wrote:
He can be an associate to my town circle.


Koshi? Just add him in imo.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
March 14 2024 00:22 GMT
#7815
Did a quick dive on Palmar before I have to head out again. Based on D1 alone, I think he basically has to be town. I'll explain my thinking in the form of questions:

1. Would scum!Palmar immediately bus scum!Oats and scum!TTS practically out the gate?
2. Would scum!Palmar go along with town sentiment to elect Vivax mayor instead of what he claims is his preference, which is to lynch him for the claim?


To make an addendum to #2, if we believe what Palmar is saying about wanting to lynch Vivax for the claim, I think the only world in which scum!Palmar simply gives up and lets Vivax have the election without offering resistance is if it's scum!Palmar and scum!Vivax, and if it's scum!Vivax then it basically has to be scum!DP and they bussed TTS. So, I think this is practically impossible. Therefore, I think based on this foundation, scum!Palmar is incredibly unlikely to me at this juncture.

I'll refine further when I get back but this is what I have so far.

Quotes for reference, non-exhaustive list (he makes other posts re: Vivax running for mayor, Oats, etc):
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote:
So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.

Oatsmaster

Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m running for mayor


Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.

Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?


I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.

You don’t seem to even want to be mayor


There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".

It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.

VisceraEyes

Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.

But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.

Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.


I have zero interest in lynching VE today.

DMB


So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote:
Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.

Where did you wake up from???

It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?


Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM


She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.

She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.

But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.


On March 05 2024 10:07 Palmar wrote:
If I was less lazy I would basically force everyone into either voting vivax mayor or voting to lynch him. Fencesitting on a blue claim is just bad.

I haven’t read his filter but my instinct is to mayor Vivax.

On March 05 2024 22:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote:
So thoughts on Vivax

1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia.
2) He did claim so we work with what we got
3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill"
4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax

In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.

There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.

That solves that problem for me.

I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though.


I think, I said, he can do this as mafia.


Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls.

I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong.

That's a false dichotomy. You don't have to think he is mafia in order to prefer someone else as mayor.


You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid.

Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself.

The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor.

I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically.

We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor.

[B]On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something.

Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy.

But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 14 2024 00:24 GMT
#7816
On March 14 2024 09:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?


Jealous/Jat/???

go, apes together strong


Koshi/Reels/???
Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.


You need to reread Koshi.
He‘s very unlikely to be mafia after he went bazooka sparklefairy today


Yeah I know, he started to play like he do as Town, but way to late.
He looks better since I called him first lazy mafia and people maybe started to filter him.
He was at the start calm, tiny reads so it doesn´t get to suspicious. His first 2 days are just not Town Koshi!
But as the mayjor wishes I will reread him

Also you tell me I should just reread Koshi. Whats your opinion on Rels? And don´t fucking tell me that he is the the clairvoyant of the Town or some kind of bullshit like this. Give me a fucking real read on him and tell me you are not voting Rels!!

#Vote Rels
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 14 2024 00:28 GMT
#7817
On March 14 2024 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 09:17 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:09 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:06 Vivax wrote:
As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost

so working like a RL mayor?


Jealous/Jat/???

go, apes together strong


Koshi/Reels/???
Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures. All for one and one for all. All for one and one for all, united we stand divided we fall.


You need to reread Koshi.
He‘s very unlikely to be mafia after he went bazooka sparklefairy today


Yeah I know, he started to play like he do as Town, but way to late.
He looks better since I called him first lazy mafia and people maybe started to filter him.
He was at the start calm, tiny reads so it doesn´t get to suspicious. His first 2 days are just not Town Koshi!
But as the mayjor wishes I will reread him

Also you tell me I should just reread Koshi. Whats your opinion on Rels? And don´t fucking tell me that he is the the clairvoyant of the Town or some kind of bullshit like this. Give me a fucking real read on him and tell me you are not voting Rels!!

#Vote Rels


I liked him saying fuck you to me when I accused him of snoozing around. Overall he strikes me as very blunt, he doesn‘t fluff up posts to pull the wool over our eyes.

I don‘t like that copcake is the only one he seems to consider, so I‘m pretending that he‘s just lynching her because that‘s what she wants, helping mafia in the process.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 14 2024 00:29 GMT
#7818
Terrible vote if you‘re town btw.
Unless Koshi and Palmar are exactly scum with Rels.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 00:36 GMT
#7819
On March 14 2024 08:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess?

No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.

If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.

He knew Trfel was town
He knew TTS was mafia
When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum

So much correct shit in his filter.


finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter.
There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.


I noticed this as well some time ago.

Me and jealous talked about it in our mason chat.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 00:36 GMT
#7820
Who has the mason today btw?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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