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On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types
I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia
Maybe he just wants you to think that so we lose the game and he can call you awful. I suspect there‘s a bunch of those afloat.
This game is corrupted
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As soon as I can‘t trust townies to be truthful or that they are playing for the same wincon I know I can just place a vote where I want, lay back and shitpost
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On March 14 2024 07:06 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:04 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types
I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia Maybe he just wants you to think that so we lose the game and he can call you awful. I suspect there‘s a bunch of those afloat. This game is corrupted Why do keep saying that. We have had martyrs before get over it. Palamr didn't bother to come back to thread with reason I'm mafia he even says in his own post he has been sitting back and doing nothing. He is mafia.
Fuck that we had two self voters who could have done much more.
I‘m not going to sit here and pretend this is an honest game.
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It‘s impossible to gather votes on Jealous even when there‘s enough evidence.
I‘m just going to assume he‘s being setup to win
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On March 14 2024 07:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:04 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types
I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia Maybe he just wants you to think that so we lose the game and he can call you awful. I suspect there‘s a bunch of those afloat. This game is corrupted I don't do that. And I don't really have much of a leg to stand on. I haven't played great this game. I call people bad while in game, but I'm generally pretty nice in post game. It's been extremely distracting to me this game that people have been on my ass since I basically entered the thread on day 1, and given the fact my availability is not all that high it's taken up way too much of my time.
And your suggestion is that we lynch iamperfection ?
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If there's a roleblocker it's Jealous he hardbussed Oats and never rescinded.
They'll throw any other member to the dogs before Jealous gets threatened.
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I seriously hope this isn't a town Palmar.
Is this like the Men in Black test where a bunch of cardboard targets move around looking like monsters and you have to shoot the little girl with the quantum physics book in her arms.
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On March 14 2024 07:27 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:23 Vivax wrote:
I seriously hope this isn't a town Palmar.
Is this like the Men in Black test where a bunch of cardboard targets move around looking like monsters and you have to shoot the little girl with the quantum physics book in her arms. Tough truths but it is. Like if you, or anyone else, is certain I must be mafia, here's a way to break the spell. 1: go back and read marv. Remember the guy who reads me better than ANYONE else (to the point of hard defending me last game, saving the bloody game...) said I'm 90% town 2: with this information in mind, go and actually re-read my entire filter. It's not acceptable to vote me without actually going through this process.
He also called JAT mafia initially.
If I want to lynch JAT, nobody else wants to.
If I want to lynch Jealous, same story.
So I'm always forced to just vote the wrong ones because of peer pressure.
Unless I want to find the third mafia which you are suggesting is iamperfection.
I'll follow your advice and read marv.
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On March 14 2024 07:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:29 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 21:23 Palmar wrote:On March 13 2024 12:19 Jealous wrote:
Fine, brief summary, just for clarity:
1. Several bursts of posting almost exclusively about mechanics and digging into it without ever reaching a sensible or actionable conclusion.
2. Generally not making much sense at several points. This includes constructing a completely nonsensical case against me.
3. Hypocrisy.
4. Forming a conf!town circle at the very start of the game for no good reason besides the fact that she invited them to a tea party RP, then gave them all free town passes.
5. Martyrdom.
Probably forgot one or two by now but again, if you want more and actual quotes and etc., just filter me.
By my estimation you've contributed next to nothing to town's victory for the past several cycles so even if you're not scum, I don't really feel the need to explain myself to you. I really like this post by the way. Why do you like this post? Already explained. It's the sassyness of that last sentence. I'm not talking necessarily about the conclusion it reaches, just that Jealous basically tells a guy he thinks may be town to fuck off.
He's been dismissive all the time with his posts.
Sassy isn't worth much if it's for the point of stifling discussion.
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If you're sassy because you really want to know more about someone's alignment, that's another story.
The only answer to apathy is aggression.
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This is a good suggestion.
We should pay some respect to marvs read on Palmar and also to Palmar himself.
I'll be damned if this day is just an automatic train on copcake.
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Backreading from EoD1 and we have this pretty good post by MZ.
On March 06 2024 11:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:This is a rough post but I am going to put my vote on JAT before I read Trfel. My problem isn't with how he responded to the vivax mayor stuff, in fact he does a better job than some people did at articulating his concerns, my problem comes with his "POE scum list" and how easily that rolled into a Trfel vote for self preservation. + Show Spoiler +I used to love post by post analysis reads but now I hate them, however given the situation this is how I’m rolling with JAT. Two piles, love or hate. Let’s read. GoodOn March 05 2024 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that. How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. Lets be real here for a second. Vivax is also not confirmed town. Wrong. CC me or go away Nobody will CC you on day1 if you have fakeclaimed (if we even have a Jailkeeper in that case). Not unless it looks like you are actually being elected and even then I am unsure if that would be the correct play. This is probably the only decent counter argument to the Vivax mayor thing, even if I disagree with it, he’s at least thinking and not just going REEE bc he hate Vivax’s claim On March 06 2024 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:JAT: catches up to the thread but basically only ever comments on Koshi related stuff. A lot of his commentary is meaningless and his questions are not sharp. He apparently wants Koshi for mayor, but this is not a real position since koshi himself wants vivax and it doesn't seem like jat really wants it or thinks it's a realistic thing that will happen. It just fills up space and buddies up to koshi. On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? The above post is complacent and disinterested. The reasoning for Vivax possibly being mafia is very shallow analysis and very lazily written, not trying to convince anyone. JAT is solely focused on this mayor thing, he is not very involved and he is making no effort to actually find anyone that is suspicious. He is sticking to easy topics and being lazy in his comments. Even the mayor thing he doesn't care enough about to make any real contributions. He cares about nothing, yet he is still posting here pretending to engage. JAT is mafia. Is that still all you have on me, sandro? I think I explained all I have done here more than sufficiently. Unlike you, I think the mayor vote is quite important. I post the same thing to you as I did to Rayn - what am I supposed to do about it at this point? The post you quote is not disinterested or complacent. It is rather resignating/annoyed. Of course I do not have very good reasoning for Vivax being mafia - I never even called him mafia in the first place. I just don't agree that the claim makes him confirmed town or even more likely town than Koshi. I think that your characterization does not fit my play at all. I think this is a reasonable response to sandroba, I don’t think he’s right with his reasoning but I can see where he’s coming from. badOn March 05 2024 07:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 07:27 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:24 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 07:20 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2024 07:17 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:
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Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town. Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process. No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor. They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection. It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain. I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you.... I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2). So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)? The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv. Who even tracks how much they are in lylo situations. 11/4 really? Is this supposed to convince anybody? In that case: In the last 5 games I have been nkilled 3 times on N1, 1 time on N2 and I was once mafia. Pretty sure my reads were okish during those 4 towngames and on top I was lock town always. So unless you guys are going to attempt to say I am potential mafia. I am a good pick. But I think I like vivax for town mayor. Let mafia waste their RB on him. We might get the RB and then have a fully protected blue role. Pretty awesome. I am not ever going to vote this shitshow mason trash marv/rayn dumbfuck thing. Not ever. I wonder what mafia thinks of a mayor that is jailkeeper tbh. Somewhat frightening for sure. If they have a RB they would be quite happy about it I assume. They are for sure not unhappy. But it HAPPENED. So what is the smartest move now? Make the shitshow rayn mayor? Or an actual blue role. Do you want our bluerole shot on N? Tbh I'd rather see Vivax die in the night than being mayor. At least if I am convinced of a good candidate. out of spite? Vivax is a very capable town player. Not out of spite. But he will not be calm/collected/respected enough to be a helpful presence I fear. Even if we believe the claim. Bad for many reasons On March 05 2024 07:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 07:47 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? The arrogance of the mason buddies knows no limit. Better not question them and just obey. Their disdain for the common man is indeed outrageous. How dare they treat us this way. Weird to even sarcastically agree with this after you already said you liked their town circle On March 06 2024 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Would have to PoE at this point. Probably someone in this pool:
Trfel
Jealous
MZ
JS
Hapa
TTS
VE
Slam
Would have to narrow it down somehow. Not meant as an OMGUS here but this is a super easy post for scum to make since he pretty much called out the lukers and slam. Sandroba actually calls this oout On March 06 2024 07:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Vote: JAT
Talk to me about someone that isn't palmar or vivax. Like what? Trfel is in my POE. Not the worst lynch if it comes to it but I really see no reason to abandon this Palmar lynch right now. Terrible, absolutely no progression of how you actually processed your eliminations to come up with Trfel as your read.
Additionally the WIFOM-y vote from Oats on JAT that's already been discussed.
Iamperfection called Oats out on that but it has no bearing for him now.
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On March 14 2024 07:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:44 Vivax wrote:
This is a good suggestion.
We should pay some respect to marvs read on Palmar and also to Palmar himself.
I'll be damned if this day is just an automatic train on copcake. ...
What?
90% confidence on him being town.
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On March 14 2024 07:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:53 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 07:52 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 07:44 Vivax wrote:
This is a good suggestion.
We should pay some respect to marvs read on Palmar and also to Palmar himself.
I'll be damned if this day is just an automatic train on copcake. ... What? 90% confidence on him being town. If only someone had brought this up before. Seriously. Now that Palmar posts it - what a revelation!
That sounds like a point you could have taken to Koshi and iamp and chose not to?
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On March 14 2024 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:59 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 07:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 07:53 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 07:52 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 07:44 Vivax wrote:
This is a good suggestion.
We should pay some respect to marvs read on Palmar and also to Palmar himself.
I'll be damned if this day is just an automatic train on copcake. ... What? 90% confidence on him being town. If only someone had brought this up before. Seriously. Now that Palmar posts it - what a revelation! That sounds like a point you could have taken to Koshi and iamp and chose not to? Are you trolling me?
No I'm voting my scumread.
Who's mafia JAT
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I don‘t see much mention of jat in rayn‘s filter at least in the pages before his death.
He was calling Ve and Palmar scum on associaton and also briefly picked up on Oats.
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On March 14 2024 08:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Ok I got to say it.
If Palmar is town.
And that is still a big if.
CC is lock mafia for the n1 nks.
rayn was wrong about literally everything except CC and she would want him dead.
Sandroba was on CC as well.
That makes that DP was right all the time.
That makes rels his vote is correct.
That makes the iamp change to VE sus as fuck.
Etc Not sure if we can take it that far but yeah. DP will have earned the right to be absolutely insufferable if this is all correct
He can push iamperfection for ruining the cop lim why doesn‘t he ?
Prime opportunity
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Fuck me this game is the size of imperial.
There better be someone awarding a phd to its participants.
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On March 14 2024 08:55 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess? No still working, I maybe think CC is town now. If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol. He knew Trfel was town He knew TTS was mafia When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum So much correct shit in his filter. finally someone who see that there is something wrong with Reels filter. There is no way he could play like this as Town. He knows things that we don´t know, thats fucking serious.
Either he‘s mafia or hookers and coke gives you superpowers
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