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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 13:09 GMT
#8133
Palmar what do you make of JAT not voting?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 13:20 GMT
#8137
On March 14 2024 22:14 Koshi wrote:
Did Oats leave to give JAT wagon space and start the second town wagon?

thats when i say excuse me right.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 13:30 GMT
#8144
On March 14 2024 22:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 22:04 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 19:48 Palmar wrote:
What MZ says is not important. The entire point is this is what Rels reads out of the case:

On March 14 2024 10:35 Rels wrote:
Not on bad post on Palmar TBH
Kinda townie from MZ too, thinking about the game as a whole and thinking about Palmar and I being partner. If Palmar is town, that means that this analysis is thrown out the window as soon as one of us flips


Essentially Rels understands this to be an associative case, ie: hinging on us being mafia TOGETHER. His claims that if either of us flip (town), the case goes out the window.

So in a town!Rels world, the only outcome of the case where it has any merit is if I flip mafia, which would implicate him. But why would town!Rels just accept that outcome

Additionally, town!Rels should know he's town and he thinks I'm scum!Palmar, so why is he okay with an association where the case concludes we're scum!Rels and scum!Palmar or town!Rels and town!Palmar. Either he should be attacking the idea that our alignments are linked in any way, or he should be changing his stance on me.


i like this point

This Palmar is so towny right?

lets not get crazy now
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 13:47 GMT
#8160
On March 14 2024 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 22:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 22:14 Koshi wrote:
Did Oats leave to give JAT wagon space and start the second town wagon?


Good catch

Only to then return when it got close?

isnt it more he made it close. Left. Then came back at end when it wasnt close?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 13:59 GMT
#8178
On March 14 2024 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 22:52 Koshi wrote:
On March 14 2024 22:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 14 2024 22:45 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 14 2024 22:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 14 2024 22:14 Koshi wrote:
Did Oats leave to give JAT wagon space and start the second town wagon?


Good catch

Only to then return when it got close?


He closed his trfel option off, he needed a new one in case you could really get lynched

I repeat - to then return to me when it got close between Trfel and myself?

"Close"
I didnt check timestamps but next votecount was like 11 vs 6

He made it 9:7 when he voted me again.

this is correct. Then two town members come in unvote and vote trfel in sandro and jacob
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 14:13 GMT
#8180
On March 08 2024 12:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 10:35 iamperfection wrote:
Just organizing my thoughts

VE

If you look at a lot of his posts he has no real opinions and goes in to general mafia guidance mode such as saying mafia would do this or probably act like this but not attaching it to any player. Makes promises of providing more content but never really does. He even complains that he wont have meaningful read until a flip happens. Well there have been several flips and claims and still he has not provided anything meaningful VE is old school scum where he just keeps making promises and does just enough posting to try and survive. He has no interest in figuring out the game and who is mafia because he is mafia.

TTS

Yes i have had some fear of possible lynch bait but the word choice he has used looks like a blatant act to me.

On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?


I think they flipped town? like come on nobody would talk like that its clearly an act.

On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote:
I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty?


He was aware that there was a check but somehow also dosnt know who claimed. A town member would go look i think he is blatantly trying to look like a noob so we dont lynch him.

Palmar

I feel like he is hiding behind the "way" he plays in order to just make useless posts in attempt to show actvivity with no real meaning behind them. He avoided all possible content that would give reads because he isnt really looking for that. He heavily ignored the whisper mechanic and seems perplexed about even though an unconfirmed mason is absolutely a role palmar would be aware which is what this basically is. If you look at his content he basically tunneled rayn and refused any evidence to try and figure out rayns alignment. He has a list post with no reasoning probably because he found it too hard to get real ones. He constantly has posts were he could give an opinion but simply doesn't. Palmar is not trying to catch mafia because he is mafia.

AWESOME find on TTS! "And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?" cannot ever make sense if it is not faked to appear clueless town??? 100% scum

Palmar what do you think of this post.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 14:26 GMT
#8183
i mean more is it too over the top for rels.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 14:38 GMT
#8187
On March 14 2024 23:37 Koshi wrote:
I saw something fun but it completely fucks with my scumteam.

you can share i give permission.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 14:40 GMT
#8189
On March 14 2024 23:39 Palmar wrote:
There's a case to be made that the mafia is all the people who have not yet gone insane

i was town before the game started then.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 14:56 GMT
#8195
On March 14 2024 23:52 Palmar wrote:
Also Vivax:

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 15:04 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2015 14:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 17 2015 14:47 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2015 14:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow, so many mean posts on the obs, it makes me sad


Well some of them knew some alignments (I PMd Koshi I was town post game for example), and others knew the solution cause of people other than hosts and scum being able to see scum qt).

So yes, being a smartass is easy when you have access to more information.


Yeah, kinda.
I'm impressed with palmar hammering the scum team though. And with koshi.


Yeah I totally regret that I hammered Palmar, but Artanis had me totally in the bag while Kels and marv, my scumreads, were pushing Lazer.

So I basically said I'd hammer my townread to lynch marv tomorrow. And then scum manages to save the game while I'm asleep....

I'm going to send Palmar my dick in a box as an excuse.



Still waiting?

your reading old vivax games?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 15:50 GMT
#8218
I mean at just a surface level they have been all over the place. Making ridiculous statements but also almost begging to be lynched. Dosnt seem like the most likely scum mindset to me the more I think about it. Yes it's possible but the more and more I think it makes me think CC has a likelihood to be town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 15:52 GMT
#8219
It would suck to lose to though
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 16:05 GMT
#8228
On March 15 2024 01:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 00:46 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Unfortunately I guess what I need is to get CC in the thread somehow and actually argue with her and I really, really don't like arguing with insane people.

@CC when you see this, lay out (again, I know I've asked you to do this before) why you're voting for me. Preferably make it at least 2 or 3 paragraphs. I don't need quotes of my posts unless you want to, just an outline of why you think I'm scum this game.

On March 14 2024 16:40 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 12:08 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 12:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:03 Palmar wrote:
Too many people have decided to play weird this game too.

Like we should objectively lynch CC for making absolutely no sense. Her reads are terrible, and the way in which she achieves them is terrible. Her constant tinfoiling is super annoying and doesn't actually help anyone. Do I know if she's mafia for it? No.

I'm probably going to vote her this cycle because I see no chance of getting iamp killed this cycle.

Also, this has been in the back of my mind the entire game, because it was like the one point I agreed with rayn on when we were arguing on N1

On March 06 2024 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2024 21:40 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you*


I dont think he is town.

Its impossible youthink DP is pocketing Palmar if you dont think Palmar is town, if youre town.

So i guess youre mafia.



This is a good post, why did it take you forever to see this though?

Why not see this last phase When i pointed it out?



Why is cake 'deciding to play weird' and not just mafia?


Because people play like mafia as town all the time and I keep lynching them for it and they keep flipping town.

VE this game. Vivax last game. Etc

How the hell am I supposed to now CC isn’t just a logically compromised crazy person.

On March 14 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Perfection do you think cake and palmar can be partnered?

I dont think its impossible.

Cop is more just confounding. I dont understand the way they think at all.
I think cop is more likely to be town the palmar though.


Why does it feel like some of you people are just saying this now?

I know DP was on this wavelength with me all the way back in D2 when we were in mason chat, but where were all of you?

If such a huge proportion of a players' posts are directionless or non-sequitur, isn't that anti-town?

If we all posted in confounding ways, how would any game ever get solved?

And somehow it's being held against me that I've parked my vote on the most consistently "confounding" "crazy" "insane" person in the game? Stop gaslighting me.

Besides that Koshi dive she wrote, basically nothing has significantly moved the needle on CopCake's alignment for me. I can't recall a solid argument from any of you as to why CopCake is town besides meta reads and *shrug*.

So, the same way Vivax basically asked me to "prove" I am town (lol), can someone "prove" to me that CopCake is more likely to be town than scum at this point?


Kinda bad post

i also dont understand how he goes from that to then asking cc to say the case he has has merit?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 16:06 GMT
#8231
On March 15 2024 01:04 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 00:50 iamperfection wrote:
I mean at just a surface level they have been all over the place. Making ridiculous statements but also almost begging to be lynched. Dosnt seem like the most likely scum mindset to me the more I think about it. Yes it's possible but the more and more I think it makes me think CC has a likelihood to be town.

Oh okay. I must be playing the game wrong.

Sky is green. $evntyfive por cento chance-a-mundo that u r scum. Whiz bang waffle.

##Vote: Jealous

^ There's my proof that I'm town.

well see now it dosnt count.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 16:07 GMT
#8234
im gonna unvote for now palmar and me had a minor mind meld
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 17:33 GMT
#8279
On March 15 2024 02:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Koshi I'm curious what you've thought about DMB this cycle.

Still waiting to hear from iamp and his thoughts on Rels.

I feel like we're getting pretty close right now.

I just dont think i was being tricked by scum with regards to the ve hammer. Maybe thats just me not wanting to entertain that possibility but thats why i said what i said before the flip.

I did not think it was a mafia rels coming into the thread. Looking at his filter there are some posts and word choices that bug me but thats probably true for everyone. That interaction we had just makes me think town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 17:37 GMT
#8281
On March 15 2024 02:36 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 02:33 iamperfection wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Koshi I'm curious what you've thought about DMB this cycle.

Still waiting to hear from iamp and his thoughts on Rels.

I feel like we're getting pretty close right now.

I just dont think i was being tricked by scum with regards to the ve hammer. Maybe thats just me not wanting to entertain that possibility but thats why i said what i said before the flip.

I did not think it was a mafia rels coming into the thread. Looking at his filter there are some posts and word choices that bug me but thats probably true for everyone. That interaction we had just makes me think town.


Why couldnt it be just "Bad town" and followed him to save me?

I mean, you consider me scum, but not as scum as palmar, but we can be scum together?

i dont think your scum anymore.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 17:48 GMT
#8287
On March 15 2024 02:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 00:50 iamperfection wrote:
I mean at just a surface level they have been all over the place. Making ridiculous statements but also almost begging to be lynched. Dosnt seem like the most likely scum mindset to me the more I think about it. Yes it's possible but the more and more I think it makes me think CC has a likelihood to be town.


You say this but yes, there is a problem.

I am a wild card.

If I am alive I am a question mark, a red one.

If I die, who is the mafia?

I think that is the question that everyone should be asking because so far in many worlds I am mafia, just like VE and Tfrel for NOT TRYING ENOUGH OMG.

VE is so inactive
Cake doesnt make sense and is insane
I am going to make a case on DMB about how many times she has said fucking in the thread
Tfrel is not stepping up his game

Are these good reasons to lynch?

This looks more of a "I am lynching you because I am better than you" game.

That is why I think I should get lynched. For town´s sake.

Who knows, people might get a surprise.


i have no idea what your saying
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 17:54 GMT
#8292
On March 15 2024 02:52 CopCake wrote:
I am saying that people have been reading and want to lynch people for reasons like this:

VE is so inactive
Cake doesnt make sense and is insane
I am going to make a case on DMB about how many times she has said fucking in the thread
Tfrel is not stepping up his game

cake why would people saying that make them mafia.

i just dont understand.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
March 14 2024 17:57 GMT
#8295
On March 15 2024 02:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:
MZ is being downgraded from being town as of now.


Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 02:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:43 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 00:50 iamperfection wrote:
I mean at just a surface level they have been all over the place. Making ridiculous statements but also almost begging to be lynched. Dosnt seem like the most likely scum mindset to me the more I think about it. Yes it's possible but the more and more I think it makes me think CC has a likelihood to be town.


You say this but yes, there is a problem.

I am a wild card.

If I am alive I am a question mark, a red one.

If I die, who is the mafia?

I think that is the question that everyone should be asking because so far in many worlds I am mafia, just like VE and Tfrel for NOT TRYING ENOUGH OMG.

VE is so inactive
Cake doesnt make sense and is insane
I am going to make a case on DMB about how many times she has said fucking in the thread
Tfrel is not stepping up his game

Are these good reasons to lynch?

This looks more of a "I am lynching you because I am better than you" game.

That is why I think I should get lynched. For town´s sake.

Who knows, people might get a surprise.


Cake I'm gonna be real with you and this may be a little blunt.

You need to get over this/yourself and just play. Most people are not scum reading you anymore. Your martyr play worked. Stop trying to get yourself lynched. If you are town, you are actively playing against your wincon and its really obnoxious. This game gets hostile at times sure but nothing in the thread this game has been over the top.

There are two wagons going right now. Neither of them are you. Stop talking about yourself and start trying to find scum. Stop talking about VE and yourself and the lynch yesterday, that's done. Unless you think you can draw conclusions from it to find scum, just move on.

I've been defending you and I'm getting tired of it.

I'm not trying to be rude, you need to break out of whatever mindset you're in and focus on finding scum.


Top town post from MZ. Mafia would sure enjoy copcake going off the rails.
JAT still not voting Jealous.

am i wifoming myself for palmar you think. I think Jealous is scum i didnt like that temper tantrum.
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