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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:18 GMT
#7371
On March 13 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:12 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:11 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:
Another fun fact about this game: Do you know how many times Jealous placed a vote on a day then changed it?
I took a quick look and think it amounts to zero.

Read CopCake as scum.

Switched from CopCake to scum!Oats D1 (pls no misrep), while you stayed on town!VE.
Stayed on CopCake on D2, while you jumped back and forth several times between town! VE and CopCake and ended up on CopCake.
I vote CopCake again on D3, you vote MZ.

Not really seeing the issue here.


Aside from voting copcake for no reason?

"no reason"

I'm not gonna waste time repeating myself, go ahead and filter me and find all the reasons I provided, some of them several times.


You switched from Cop to Oats first the moment he was redchecked guessing from the vote timing. They are a couple of minutes apart.
Nothing less than a move a roleblocker should make.

And wasn't that your only switch this game?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:20 GMT
#7375
On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario

CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint.

You have my interest, why?

As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense.


On March 13 2024 11:07 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 11:02 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario

CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint.

You have my interest, why?

As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense.

Oh I thought it was going to be about some back and forth between you and CC that made it impossible to be partner, a little disappointed :p

Really disagree with the martyring part. First, I already found a post from anoter scum game of her where she martyred. Second, you cannot know she wasn't there, ready to ninja vote VE at the last minute if needed

I mean, there wasn't that much back-and-forth because after a while she just stopped responding to me in any intelligible manner, but I was lock CopCake the whole time and was who I focused my energy on casing several times D2. Point being, if you think that I can pretend to push CopCake, and CopCake can pretend to be upset with me, and then we both risk her getting lynched, then we would have to be good actors.

Really didn't think this would be a controversial take or something that needs explaining but maybe you weren't following closely.

Anyway:

##Vote: CopCake


I don't see a single reason for your vote on her here.

You wrote a lot about nothing that would convince others she is scum. Guess who does that?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:21 GMT
#7377
Like you spent two posts arguing on why you are not mafia to place a vote on someone.
Defensive
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:22 GMT
#7379
Stale reads, stale votes, bad reasoning to vote copcake.
No doubt about other players alignments.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:25 GMT
#7381
##Vote: Jealous

We win or lose today
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:26 GMT
#7383
Anyone who was sure of copcake being mafia should at least consider that iamp voted to save her and could be scum, or am I wrong?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:27 GMT
#7384
Unless it's all just theatre
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:28 GMT
#7387
This whole game
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:28 GMT
#7388
On March 13 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:25 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Jealous

We win or lose today


Why? We have heaps of mislynches left right?


I don't trust those who are surviving the nights.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:31 GMT
#7394
On March 13 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:28 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:25 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Jealous

We win or lose today


Why? We have heaps of mislynches left right?


I don't trust those who are surviving the nights.


That’s you!!


The throwers aren't mafia.
I refuse to accept something isn't off in a game where 1 or perhaps even 2 townies self-voted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:32 GMT
#7396
And DP you are being too obtuse about Jealous and MZ for me to place any trust into you at this point.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:35 GMT
#7398
One who did it was a townie, why not the other?
Why should we autopilot on copcake?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:36 GMT
#7400
We can turn the throwing into a good argument for copcake being town, actually. It was iamperfection who saved her, she didn't save herself.

Suddenly it's the mafias problem and not the towns
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:38 GMT
#7401
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.


He was claimed blue he was always going to die first.
No one is townier than that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:40 GMT
#7405
On March 13 2024 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:32 Vivax wrote:
And DP you are being too obtuse about Jealous and MZ for me to place any trust into you at this point.


Your confidence interval is too fucking high my dude

This is a hard game right now.


You're ignoring evidence on Jealous.
For two days.

And it's not associative. You know how bad it looks for you if he flips scum here.

If cop flips town what do we get? Nothing. If she flips scum? Nothing.

I am probably the only person who has called Jealous potential mafia in this game.
I have yet to see a good reason for him being town that isn't a vote on redchecks.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:41 GMT
#7406
On March 13 2024 12:39 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.


He was claimed blue he was always going to die first.
No one is townier than that.

OK so what's your point then


Tell me why it's crazy to think Jealous is mafia in isolation?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:44 GMT
#7410
On March 13 2024 12:42 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:41 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:39 iamperfection wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.


He was claimed blue he was always going to die first.
No one is townier than that.

OK so what's your point then


Tell me why it's crazy to think Jealous is mafia in isolation?

It isnt


Good. Now we wait for what copcake has to say. And Dmb. And Palmar. And Koshi.
Because even if I think about potential partners, my only intention is to lynch Jealous here. Not talk about why Jacob over DP or other things.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 03:45 GMT
#7412
DP is still in self resolving range, and I think he wants to turn my attention from Jealous to him here, which I refuse to do.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 14:18 GMT
#7580
On March 13 2024 19:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:41 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:39 iamperfection wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.


He was claimed blue he was always going to die first.
No one is townier than that.

OK so what's your point then


Tell me why it's crazy to think Jealous is mafia in isolation?

Vivax.
We havent talked in a while.

Why do you think it cant be Palmar and JAT? They thread policed since marv passed and I think after the VE kill they should have done more.
But I only felt weird hostility from JAT when I started looking into Palmar and mentioned him on the side.
Then JAT came with the lazy marv defense for Palmar.

I think mafia got lazy and complacent during the VE and copcake lynch and JAT showed it there. He defended Palmar too arrogantly.

Anyway. What is your opinion on the 2?


I agree that they both can be mafia. But pointing out what I did about Jealous feels like my mission at this point.

Guy is playing like textbook mafia in all aspects. He tries to derail my accusations towards him into personal feuds with his memes or tries to gaslight me.

He posts huge walls and claims to be unsure then defaults to a single vote almost every day and doesn't seem to change his mind much, just pretends to.

JAT had two redeeming posts in my opinion and it's when he reacted to when I considered the possibility of you being traitor over copcake and that your posting is off this game.
I'm assuming that he potentially delights in being called mafia as town to prove a point in his head and poses as lynchable as opposed to a scenario where he is just mafia.

I don't see why I have to play for a triple lynch here and explain to you what makes Palmar and JAT mafia either way as long as you don't consider all the points raised about Jealous. It waters down the arguments against a single mafia if I have to explain why three people at once have to be or not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
March 13 2024 14:20 GMT
#7581
On March 13 2024 22:15 Palmar wrote:
I was perfectly fine with the little interaction between her and Vivax where they were worrying about axe murderers. They seemed to agree they're safe.

Keep thinking that...


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