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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 16:34 GMT
#6661
On March 05 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 14:53 ToTheStars wrote:
Read pages 8/9/10 only

Vote: trfel

Terrible post, care to explain this read?


On March 05 2024 01:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 20:50 Vivax wrote:
Well for TTS it‘s an easy explanation: He also didn‘t like Trfel‘s posts.

Do you agree with the reasons he didn't like it? I get where he's coming from since he's a new player but I'm not sure what you see wrong with it?


I made a horrible list with TTS + Oats town at this point in the game and explained why I put TTS as town and look at what MZ replied.

He just backed off his attack with this post:

On March 05 2024 01:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).

I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).

And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.

OK this is fair in my eyes, TL towns are very chatty and if you come from somewhere that's not I could believe this position.


And read my post as if I was seeing something wrong with him when it was the opposite so that's indication of TMI because he was expecting me to scumread him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 16:51 GMT
#6668
On March 12 2024 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 01:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 14:53 ToTheStars wrote:
Read pages 8/9/10 only

Vote: trfel

Terrible post, care to explain this read?


On March 05 2024 01:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 20:50 Vivax wrote:
Well for TTS it‘s an easy explanation: He also didn‘t like Trfel‘s posts.

Do you agree with the reasons he didn't like it? I get where he's coming from since he's a new player but I'm not sure what you see wrong with it?


I made a horrible list with TTS + Oats town at this point in the game and explained why I put TTS as town and look at what MZ replied.

He just backed off his attack with this post:

On March 05 2024 01:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).

I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).

And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.

OK this is fair in my eyes, TL towns are very chatty and if you come from somewhere that's not I could believe this position.


And read my post as if I was seeing something wrong with him when it was the opposite so that's indication of TMI because he was expecting me to scumread him.

That last response is reasonable no?


No he misread it as me wanting to scumread TTS for it when I was giving him a townread for scumreading Trfel.
He must've thought TTS looked scummy and that I was pointing it out when I was doing the opposite so imo it gave MZ away by replying like that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 16:57 GMT
#6673
On March 12 2024 01:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 01:51 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 14:53 ToTheStars wrote:
Read pages 8/9/10 only

Vote: trfel

Terrible post, care to explain this read?


On March 05 2024 01:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 20:50 Vivax wrote:
Well for TTS it‘s an easy explanation: He also didn‘t like Trfel‘s posts.

Do you agree with the reasons he didn't like it? I get where he's coming from since he's a new player but I'm not sure what you see wrong with it?


I made a horrible list with TTS + Oats town at this point in the game and explained why I put TTS as town and look at what MZ replied.

He just backed off his attack with this post:

On March 05 2024 01:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).

I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).

And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.

OK this is fair in my eyes, TL towns are very chatty and if you come from somewhere that's not I could believe this position.


And read my post as if I was seeing something wrong with him when it was the opposite so that's indication of TMI because he was expecting me to scumread him.

That last response is reasonable no?


No he misread it as me wanting to scumread TTS for it when I was giving him a townread for scumreading Trfel.
He must've thought TTS looked scummy and that I was pointing it out when I was doing the opposite so imo it gave MZ away by replying like that.

He's responding directly to tts


Read the second quote again he's asking me what I see wrong with it.
Unless he misquoted me.

JAT also sees it as worth posting to beg for a townread because a flipped mafia voted for him but not much else. It's meaningless, and he was still 5 votes away at least.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:08 GMT
#6680
On March 12 2024 02:05 CopCake wrote:
At some point the list looked like this

Trfel (8): iamperfection, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Vivax, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous
Justanothertownie (5): sandroba, Palmar, DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, Trfel, Rels

Then MZ and Oats added the votes to JAT making it 8 to Tfrel and 7 to JAT

That would have put JAT in danger.


Where did you pull that list it looks wrong in all aspects.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:10 GMT
#6682
Oats didn't vote the flipped town so he could have voted the unlfipped mafia for later distancing
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:11 GMT
#6687
On March 12 2024 02:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:08 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:05 CopCake wrote:
At some point the list looked like this

Trfel (8): iamperfection, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Vivax, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous
Justanothertownie (5): sandroba, Palmar, DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, Trfel, Rels

Then MZ and Oats added the votes to JAT making it 8 to Tfrel and 7 to JAT

That would have put JAT in danger.


Where did you pull that list it looks wrong in all aspects.


https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621825-a-classy-vote-thread?page=5#97

Post #97

After that you can see from the voting thread that Oats and MZ went to vote JAT


What's the point? Do you have strong reason to believe that JAT and MZ are both town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:12 GMT
#6690
On March 12 2024 02:11 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:10 Vivax wrote:
Oats didn't vote the flipped town so he could have voted the unlfipped mafia for later distancing


Why when he could have just put his vote on DMB?


That doesn't help him with distancing.
Making it clutch does.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:14 GMT
#6692
I'd have to reread if Oats and MZ strongly pushed for JAT aside from the votes.
If not they're just for show.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:16 GMT
#6694
On March 06 2024 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 11:56 Vivax wrote:
Oats and MZ might as well opt to save Hapa with that reasoning

If you cannot see the difference between hapa and trfel I cannot help you


Emphasis on nested quote
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:16 GMT
#6696
On March 06 2024 11:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 11:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
I wanna give trfel time to play
##unvote
##vote jat

EXCUSE ME

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:20 GMT
#6699
On March 12 2024 02:18 CopCake wrote:
That is why I think, from mafia perspective, putting JAT in danger is stupid.


Do you go to bed with two toast slices at the sides of your head?
Or are you just playing pro-scum on purpose.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:24 GMT
#6701
On March 12 2024 02:22 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:20 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:18 CopCake wrote:
That is why I think, from mafia perspective, putting JAT in danger is stupid.


Do you go to bed with two toast slices at the sides of your head?
Or are you just playing pro-scum on purpose.


I dont understand? Why clearing JAT is scummy?


You're voting Palmar too.
At least vote VE.

You are mafia traitor aren't you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:25 GMT
#6702
You're crumbing it so much you could make a pizza from that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:28 GMT
#6704
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 17:41 GMT
#6711
On March 12 2024 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 02:28 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly do not understand?



Does it look like Oats switched to JAT because he was scumreading JAT?

Oats was mafia. He was not reading anyone anything. And no, he never even gave a reasoning to scumread me. Usually if people bus they add good reasons to look better afterwards and finding reasons to scum read your partners is always easy. They don't just throw their vote on there.


It'd help if it was visible what your current opinion of VE, Copcake, MZ is.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 18:05 GMT
#6716
On March 12 2024 03:00 CopCake wrote:
Idk

Like confirmed mafia oats votes mafia JAT when his confirmed scumbuddy TTS is getting grilled.

Why risk losing Mafia JAT when Oats could have parked the vote on DMB or Tfrel?

To win town cred?



You are blowing the risk out of proportion it doesn‘t outweigh the benefits when they both didn‘t do anything meaningful to get Jat lynched.

On the MS game Dp and his mate parked both their votes on the teammate and I was thinking like you. They won.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 18:41 GMT
#6728
On March 12 2024 03:32 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 01:55 CopCake wrote:
Where is DMB?

DMB was out to get some food and had another police check. The policemen in this village just don't like me, but I didn't have to pay anything. Just the usual alcohol test.


They didn't check if you were paying taxes so some real estate mogul could fly around with his jet at our expense?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 18:56 GMT
#6735
On March 12 2024 03:52 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 03:41 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2024 03:32 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:55 CopCake wrote:
Where is DMB?

DMB was out to get some food and had another police check. The policemen in this village just don't like me, but I didn't have to pay anything. Just the usual alcohol test.


They didn't check if you were paying taxes so some real estate mogul could fly around with his jet at our expense?

I ask if I could sleep at the police station, because there a no arpatments here. He was getting more mad at me.


They were looking for the shipment of detective thongs that went missing there.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 19:07 GMT
#6741
On March 12 2024 04:04 Koshi wrote:
I kinda expected more from VE. As either alignment. lol


You'll just have to stay friends
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
March 11 2024 19:15 GMT
#6744
On March 12 2024 04:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Just stay the course. I am pretty confident he is mafia.


That's reassuring
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