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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:00 GMT
#7433
On March 13 2024 09:11 iamperfection wrote:
If i understand the game correctly mafia have to RB vivax and shoot either DP or Jacob. If something other then that happens reassess. If i die really reassess. My updated what i think posting now as i have to do something and might not be back before deadline so just in case a weird kill happens.


Iamperfection innocent child. More townie then even those confirmed by mechanics

JacobStrangelove Only way to be scum would be if he and DP were scum together which I consider to be almost impossible.

DarthPunk He is town. Way too invested. The shoot mafia partner theory I put at less then .02 %

Vivax He town. His insane muck up the thread that nobody with half a brain on mafia team would buy just posting too much no reason to doubt the claim.

die_meatbaby - I think there are just some posts that show a tiny bit of critical thinking. Don’t think they would be capable of that as mafia.

justanothertownie- Eh hard to say has some overly deffensive posts which suggest a scum mindset. Post #5588 stands out to me as being overly deffensive. Post 5525 is a list post which reaches no conclusion so not sure why it would be posted. Possible scum but i dont feel that strong about it. More recently had some posts where he was trying to figure stuff out I guess. Don’t feel too strong here.


Meapak_Ziphh- I guess its possible to be scum but i dont know i think i can understand his posting especially at the time of the lynch in what he was doing. Also remembered the cake thing when i asked. Also some aggresiveness in his posting


Rels- I kind of like the callout of jealous he had recently and also his analysis of what happened with DMB right at the deadline so possibly town. If cop is mafia ballsy play and if town seems unnecessary to me. i think possibly town.


Jealous- I had a weird feels ever since he returned to the game. I thought his posting right after the flip was weird he goes I hate you all then extends an olive branch? I feel like I cant read this guy though.




CopCake tried to cheat so town. For you dummies that don’t read the thread brought information that rayn was laughing at the post confirming he was having said good time at a point when people were trying to determine his alignment. Fuck my cheating analysis scratch all that the late voting seems awfully suspicious to me as it seemed almost like a scum that wasn’t following the game state voted the wrong person and then had to move it back to scum. Plus the majority of posting is just half baked conspiracy theories also was right around posting for the lynch but then disappears for the flip like come on. Almost seems like a mission failed we’ll get them next time to me scum. I still think its possible to be mafia. keeps on bringing up irrelevant stuff like oats wanted to make trfel mafia which i dont understand why that would ping to anyone.


Koshi - The way he handled the whisperer is so bizarre to me. What rayn did is what i expect a town member to do. his posting recently seems depressed which I don’t understand why. The recent the lynch tomorrow is koshi or palmar almost feels like a play to me. I haven't really felt koshis presence this game.


Palmar I really think marv is being clouded by meta here. His posts don’t make sense to me and he doesn’t appear to be scum hunting. Tunneled Rayn for no reason despite rayn being obvious town imo and ignored any evidence. Has no time but was able to waste time making a fake case on dead rayn. Calls me mafia devoid of any reasoning. I don’t buy the drunk posting either. I don’t see scum hunting I see mafia. I feel like if you look at his town games he tends to more aggressive with people and confrontational. Jacob has some great points some better then others especially palmar voting for ve over oats especially when palmar has been lecturing about proper ways to play. I also think he somewhat broke the veil when we had our bromance moment about playing to win. Both Koshi and palmar have the thoughts this game is now a new mini almost feels like the pep talk they gave themselves after losing two mafia in the same cycle.


Gonna stop you right there but you have noticed there exist something timezones and people post according to them, right?

Calling me scum because I didnt stay awake 24 hrs is like huh? I mean I know is just a point but you can say the same for Rels. People post according to their timezones.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:02 GMT
#7434
You are also calling me Mafia but want to push Palmar? Huh…

Btw I am catching up, I only checked if I havent died.

I believed I did because I got a pm but instead I got masoned, what a privilege!!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:02 GMT
#7436
Btw iamp you think I am mafia but votef VE? Eh
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:04 GMT
#7437
On March 13 2024 10:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 15:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last

Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.

It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.

I wonder. Now that VE flipped scum, her insistence on calling VE town looks like TMI to me
If CopCake is scum, then DMB has to be town too. That's the 2 players she's treated as confirmed town throughout the last day


Ve flipped scum what
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:06 GMT
#7438
On March 13 2024 10:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 10:31 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:24 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 06:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:50 CopCake wrote:
I am lynching Palmar tomorrow no matter what, is my duty as town to do so.


Why?

??? CopCake, why would you lynch Palmar? He's confirmed town in your view, since DP said he would shoot him during N2.


Well dp hit scum with his shot so obviously dp is now likely town what kinda a question is that?

In the world of CopCake, she and DMB are confirmed town because DP said he was going to shoot them N2 and wasn't roleblocked.
Checking DP's posts, he also mentioned he would shoot Palmar VE and I


I have said many times and talked that if DP is town then in that world DMB is town.

What are you talking about?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:08 GMT
#7439
On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario


Dude wtf me and jelaous have been like grrr grrr you mean no you cant read no you this, no you that to the point of insanity
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:13 GMT
#7442
On March 13 2024 11:14 Vivax wrote:
I’m not sure about game integrity atp


I am reading and it seems like vanity fogs the logic

But idk how to read.

People just want me to fit an Agenda.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:21 GMT
#7444
On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.


This is important, killing Jacob from a mafia perspective is important.

One of the options is to keep big boi DP alive to go against copcake.

Oh, a conspiracy theory?

Am I town Rels? I mean my conspiracy of people wanting to kill tfrel wasnt big enough? Or ponder why people didnt kill tts?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:22 GMT
#7445
On March 13 2024 12:42 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:40 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:32 Vivax wrote:
And DP you are being too obtuse about Jealous and MZ for me to place any trust into you at this point.


Your confidence interval is too fucking high my dude

This is a hard game right now.


You're ignoring evidence on Jealous.
For two days.

And it's not associative. You know how bad it looks for you if he flips scum here.

If cop flips town what do we get? Nothing. If she flips scum? Nothing.

I am probably the only person who has called Jealous potential mafia in this game.
I have yet to see a good reason for him being town that isn't a vote on redchecks.

I mean, to be fair, if Cop flips town then I look pretty dang bad and stupid, and iamp looks pretty good because then there would have been no point in him switching votes and painting a target on his back, right?


No, Iamp called me mafia for dumb reasons and he is the one who changed the hammer.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:25 GMT
#7450
On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?


Exactly.

If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo

He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing.

Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker.

Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks?


It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks

I’m phone posting so shortening sentences.


Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:32 GMT
#7453
On March 13 2024 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?


Exactly.

If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo

He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing.

Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker.

Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks?


It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks

I’m phone posting so shortening sentences.


Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town?



Yeah I think it’s more likely. I think your alignment is really important because if you are town some people look way worse.
Rels in particular also jealous to a certain extent.

If you are mafia, then koshi and perfection look worse for example.

What’s the most posts you ever had in a game cake?



I have like absolutely no idea.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:34 GMT
#7456
On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.

You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?


In that world is either koshi or Palmar.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:38 GMT
#7461
On March 13 2024 14:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:32 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?


Exactly.

If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo

He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing.

Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker.

Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks?


It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks

I’m phone posting so shortening sentences.


Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town?



Yeah I think it’s more likely. I think your alignment is really important because if you are town some people look way worse.
Rels in particular also jealous to a certain extent.

If you are mafia, then koshi and perfection look worse for example.

What’s the most posts you ever had in a game cake?



I have like absolutely no idea.


Well right now you have 30 pages.

Is there a town game that has been close to this?


I seriously do not know DP !!!

Because in some games I have survived as town, It was a drawing game. HF was there, I think jelaous too.

I think I also posted a lot in the chezinuuu is mafia game by Glowing Bear.

But I think my consistency in posting is almost the same as either i am mafia or town?

Only when I have rolled scum so many times in a row I do not post a lot.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:39 GMT
#7462
On March 13 2024 14:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.

You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?


In that world is either koshi or Palmar.



Wait. What do you mean “in that world”?

In the world you are town?


The world is rels and jelaous.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:47 GMT
#7464
I dont follow?

In the world rels and jelaous are mafia together then is koshi and palmar.

There is also a world in which palmar/koshi/someone

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:53 GMT
#7466
On March 13 2024 14:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:39 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:37 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.

You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?


In that world is either koshi or Palmar.



Wait. What do you mean “in that world”?

In the world you are town?


The world is rels and jelaous.



Tell me your reads in the world you are town then cake. That is important right now.



In all worlds I am town, duh

The one I firmly believe more RN is Palmar/Koshi

Palmar I posted yesterday

Koshi when he told me to shut up I got like ???????? He even said cake focus on something different and I wanted to discuss why his change of heart last minute like yeah kill cake she needs to flip, idk about this, yada yada. I wanted to understand the - feelings - and felt like he closed the door in my face.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:54 GMT
#7470
Like Koshi trying to save mafia palm fits the lets lynch tfrel theory.

I feel like I have been kept to be Koshi’s “I told you so” doll.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 06:00 GMT
#7472
On March 13 2024 14:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:53 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:39 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:37 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.

You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?


In that world is either koshi or Palmar.



Wait. What do you mean “in that world”?

In the world you are town?


The world is rels and jelaous.



Tell me your reads in the world you are town then cake. That is important right now.



In all worlds I am town, duh

The one I firmly believe more RN is Palmar/Koshi

Palmar I posted yesterday

Koshi when he told me to shut up I got like ???????? He even said cake focus on something different and I wanted to discuss why his change of heart last minute like yeah kill cake she needs to flip, idk about this, yada yada. I wanted to understand the - feelings - and felt like he closed the door in my face.



What happened to jealous you were voting him all yesterday?


Yesterday I talked of Palmar o_O
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 06:07 GMT
#7474
On March 13 2024 15:01 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 14:53 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:39 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:37 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.

You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?


In that world is either koshi or Palmar.



Wait. What do you mean “in that world”?

In the world you are town?


The world is rels and jelaous.



Tell me your reads in the world you are town then cake. That is important right now.



In all worlds I am town, duh

The one I firmly believe more RN is Palmar/Koshi

Palmar I posted yesterday

Koshi when he told me to shut up I got like ???????? He even said cake focus on something different and I wanted to discuss why his change of heart last minute like yeah kill cake she needs to flip, idk about this, yada yada. I wanted to understand the - feelings - and felt like he closed the door in my face.


Wait, so if you perceive people to be mean to you, that means they are scum?


No, MZ is aggressive for example and I dont think he is mafia here.

In the case of Koshi it has been cute cute cute nice cute and then when I wanted to question about why his wishy washy feelings he just say no, that question is ass and that is it.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 06:49 GMT
#7476
On March 13 2024 15:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 15:07 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 15:01 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:53 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:39 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:37 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.

You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?


In that world is either koshi or Palmar.



Wait. What do you mean “in that world”?

In the world you are town?


The world is rels and jelaous.



Tell me your reads in the world you are town then cake. That is important right now.



In all worlds I am town, duh

The one I firmly believe more RN is Palmar/Koshi

Palmar I posted yesterday

Koshi when he told me to shut up I got like ???????? He even said cake focus on something different and I wanted to discuss why his change of heart last minute like yeah kill cake she needs to flip, idk about this, yada yada. I wanted to understand the - feelings - and felt like he closed the door in my face.


Wait, so if you perceive people to be mean to you, that means they are scum?


No, MZ is aggressive for example and I dont think he is mafia here.

In the case of Koshi it has been cute cute cute nice cute and then when I wanted to question about why his wishy washy feelings he just say no, that question is ass and that is it.



Do you think the Jacob kill implicates palmar as mafia more or is more about aiming for me to lynch you as town?


- I think they want you to drive the lynch on me
- Jacob kill only confirms he gave you the gun and that is a world most people lived in so it gives no info in general, if something debunks the DP/JSL/DMB vivax proposed
- jacob + copcake i dont think is something Palmar would fear but jacob touching your heart and making you have a change of heart yes.
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