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On March 05 2024 22:16 justanothertownie wrote:Yeah. Tempted to townread him just for that tbh. Even though I really don't like the way he went about the mayor stuff and the cake push was also meh.
DP is a null, but I've only read his posts in the context of reading other players.
I did like him calling out iamperfection for being wrong about how to deal with Vivax (I'm reading Vivax right now). But some of his other stuff that I've seen has been decidedly meh.
Problem is, he has posted so goddamn much I don't even know what I should read of his postings. I guess I'll go find a list post or something.
But he should maybe just be off the table today just because he has a long filter.
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So thoughts on Vivax
1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia.
2) He did claim so we work with what we got
3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill"
4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax
In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.
There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.
That solves that problem for me.
I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though.
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On March 05 2024 22:36 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote:
So thoughts on Vivax
1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia.
2) He did claim so we work with what we got
3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill"
4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax
In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.
[b]There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.
That solves that problem for me.
I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though. I think, I said, he can do this as mafia.
Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls.
I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong.
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I just filtered JSL, there's actually a bunch of stuff in his posts I kinda like. Some of it is just me agreeing with how he thinks about the game (don't kill players who you know will be active), and some of it is just tonal stuff (I'm arrogant cause I don't get lynched as town). Some of it is weirdness... the guy made a case on himself.
Kinda towny
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On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Just so I get it clear.
a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?
Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.
But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?
Not weird?
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On March 05 2024 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 22:37 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 22:36 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote:
So thoughts on Vivax
1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia.
2) He did claim so we work with what we got
3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill"
4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax
In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.
[b]There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.
That solves that problem for me.
I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though. I think, I said, he can do this as mafia. Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls. I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong. That's a false dichotomy. You don't have to think he is mafia in order to prefer someone else as mayor.
You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid.
Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself.
The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor.
I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically.
We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor.
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I need Sandroba to come convince me his mason buddies aren't just mafia.
I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it.
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The tiny little fascist in me really wants to kill Vivax for making a bad play but I'm just gonna ignore that. I can't see clear scum posting in what I've filtered of him.
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On March 05 2024 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text --- Just so I get it clear. a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia? b) You don't think that's strange at all? Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine. But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it? Not weird? marv has not posted anything in the chat after voting for you, aside from answering my VE question and telling me him and sandroba decided to vote vivax for mayor. So no, not really weird.
Let's do a hypothetical, I know you love those and the chances of it ending in us arguing about semantics is close to zero.
I die, I flip town.
What do you now think of marv (assuming he doesn't post anything else in your topic).
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On March 05 2024 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 22:52 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text --- Just so I get it clear. a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia? b) You don't think that's strange at all? Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine. But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it? Not weird? marv has not posted anything in the chat after voting for you, aside from answering my VE question and telling me him and sandroba decided to vote vivax for mayor. So no, not really weird. Let's do a hypothetical, I know you love those and the chances of it ending in us arguing about semantics is close to zero. I die, I flip town. What do you now think of marv (assuming he doesn't post anything else in your topic). I am pretty sure you're not gonna flip town today in case you're town.
That's why I said a hypothetical.
Humor me please.
Tell me what you think of marv if I die today and flip town.
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On March 05 2024 22:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It depends on what you do and what he does during the rest of the day.
boo, cop out answer.
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Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something.
Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy.
But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though.
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I really like Koshi's read on me btw, probably means I'm right and Koshi is town.
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JAT looks pretty bad. He has said pretty much nothing about me except that comment about not agreeing with my logic on how Vivax needs to be treated, which isn't alignment indicative.
And he's trying to kill me.
And his filter is shorter than mine so he can't even claim lurker lynch 
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Holy shit Sandroba drops a JAT is mafia hammer while I'm writing my own post.
Good job Sandro.
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I did lightly read some posts by Trfel and didn't object too much to them.
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On March 05 2024 23:14 CopCake wrote:
If people do not talk about palm i guess is mafia
Gotcha
No, that only goes for the people who are currently trying to murder me.
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On March 05 2024 23:15 iamperfection wrote:
What do you think of ve palmar?
My filter is 3 pages and VE is like one of the few people I actually wrote a few paragraphs about before I discontinued that project out of laziness.
Surely you can find it?
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On March 05 2024 23:19 sandroba wrote:
I missed palmar last burst while posting, jat overtook his spot as most scummy by a long shot. I'm actually pretty fucking confident JAT is mafia.
You son of a bitch I'm in.
You don't know how happy it made me to press post on that short "jat looks bad" post only to see it right beneath you calling him mafia.
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Btw I'm like 90% certain sandroba is town now.
People don't do this as mafia. He just dropped a post saying I look worse and worse, and then changes his mind like 5 minutes later.
It's really hard to come out of an aggressive tunnel like that as mafia, because you kinda have to force yourself to attack someone and when you've spent effort in making an attack on someone you know is town, it's super hard to just throw it away when new evidence presents itself.
ergo, I think sandroba is town, and he is now my captain.
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