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On March 13 2024 04:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 03:40 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 03:35 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:Koshi, please explain how this: On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:Ok. Game is still very interesting. I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable. We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one. Next. As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry. I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.
I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.JAT & Rels. So difficult. Palmar  ((( I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well. Became this: On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie. On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ. On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked. With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this? I did. And we are still friends. Sounds like one of you/Mz got the unclaimed whisperer. Inexplicably sad today. Is it one of you It was me. I cba with that.
you didnt use it?
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On March 13 2024 04:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 04:14 iamperfection wrote:On March 13 2024 04:00 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:40 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 03:35 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:Koshi, please explain how this: On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:Ok. Game is still very interesting. I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable. We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one. Next. As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry. I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.
I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.JAT & Rels. So difficult. Palmar ((( I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well. Became this: On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie. On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ. On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked. With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this? I did. And we are still friends. Sounds like one of you/Mz got the unclaimed whisperer. Inexplicably sad today. Is it one of you It was me. I cba with that. you didnt use it? No. I didnt. I didnt have anything to say outside the thread.
i dont understand your thinking at all on this. I understand even less why you would admit to it.
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On March 13 2024 06:03 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 04:47 iamperfection wrote:On March 13 2024 04:35 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 04:14 iamperfection wrote:On March 13 2024 04:00 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:40 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 03:35 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:Koshi, please explain how this: On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:Ok. Game is still very interesting. I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable. We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one. Next. As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry. I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.
I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.JAT & Rels. So difficult. Palmar ((( I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well. Became this: On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie. On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ. On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked. With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this? I did. And we are still friends. Sounds like one of you/Mz got the unclaimed whisperer. Inexplicably sad today. Is it one of you It was me. I cba with that. you didnt use it? No. I didnt. I didnt have anything to say outside the thread. i dont understand your thinking at all on this. I understand even less why you would admit to it. Agreed very strange
had a pm game once where i said the same thing i was mafia.
Not sure if its the same for koshi. Seems like a deliberate wifom mind bomb though so possible.
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Meapak have you come to a conclusion on palmar?
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On March 13 2024 06:44 DarthPunk wrote:This.
you forget we can just blame marv. And if palmar is scum we can REALLY make fun of marv which is always a win.
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If cop is town rels has to be town I would think right? Such an uncessary play if otherwise?
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On March 13 2024 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean I agree that being interested is a thing that is towny. But he certainly does not have to be town for that.
It draws unnecessary attention I would think. Why not just sit back and relax
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If i understand the game correctly mafia have to RB vivax and shoot either DP or Jacob. If something other then that happens reassess. If i die really reassess. My updated what i think posting now as i have to do something and might not be back before deadline so just in case a weird kill happens.
Iamperfection innocent child. More townie then even those confirmed by mechanics
JacobStrangelove Only way to be scum would be if he and DP were scum together which I consider to be almost impossible.
DarthPunk He is town. Way too invested. The shoot mafia partner theory I put at less then .02 %
Vivax He town. His insane muck up the thread that nobody with half a brain on mafia team would buy just posting too much no reason to doubt the claim.
die_meatbaby - I think there are just some posts that show a tiny bit of critical thinking. Don’t think they would be capable of that as mafia.
justanothertownie- Eh hard to say has some overly deffensive posts which suggest a scum mindset. Post #5588 stands out to me as being overly deffensive. Post 5525 is a list post which reaches no conclusion so not sure why it would be posted. Possible scum but i dont feel that strong about it. More recently had some posts where he was trying to figure stuff out I guess. Don’t feel too strong here.
Meapak_Ziphh- I guess its possible to be scum but i dont know i think i can understand his posting especially at the time of the lynch in what he was doing. Also remembered the cake thing when i asked. Also some aggresiveness in his posting
Rels- I kind of like the callout of jealous he had recently and also his analysis of what happened with DMB right at the deadline so possibly town. If cop is mafia ballsy play and if town seems unnecessary to me. i think possibly town.
Jealous- I had a weird feels ever since he returned to the game. I thought his posting right after the flip was weird he goes I hate you all then extends an olive branch? I feel like I cant read this guy though.
CopCake tried to cheat so town. For you dummies that don’t read the thread brought information that rayn was laughing at the post confirming he was having said good time at a point when people were trying to determine his alignment. Fuck my cheating analysis scratch all that the late voting seems awfully suspicious to me as it seemed almost like a scum that wasn’t following the game state voted the wrong person and then had to move it back to scum. Plus the majority of posting is just half baked conspiracy theories also was right around posting for the lynch but then disappears for the flip like come on. Almost seems like a mission failed we’ll get them next time to me scum. I still think its possible to be mafia. keeps on bringing up irrelevant stuff like oats wanted to make trfel mafia which i dont understand why that would ping to anyone.
Koshi - The way he handled the whisperer is so bizarre to me. What rayn did is what i expect a town member to do. his posting recently seems depressed which I don’t understand why. The recent the lynch tomorrow is koshi or palmar almost feels like a play to me. I haven't really felt koshis presence this game.
Palmar I really think marv is being clouded by meta here. His posts don’t make sense to me and he doesn’t appear to be scum hunting. Tunneled Rayn for no reason despite rayn being obvious town imo and ignored any evidence. Has no time but was able to waste time making a fake case on dead rayn. Calls me mafia devoid of any reasoning. I don’t buy the drunk posting either. I don’t see scum hunting I see mafia. I feel like if you look at his town games he tends to more aggressive with people and confrontational. Jacob has some great points some better then others especially palmar voting for ve over oats especially when palmar has been lecturing about proper ways to play. I also think he somewhat broke the veil when we had our bromance moment about playing to win. Both Koshi and palmar have the thoughts this game is now a new mini almost feels like the pep talk they gave themselves after losing two mafia in the same cycle.
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On March 13 2024 10:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 06:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 00:50 CopCake wrote:
I am lynching Palmar tomorrow no matter what, is my duty as town to do so. Why? ??? CopCake, why would you lynch Palmar? He's confirmed town in your view, since DP said he would shoot him during N2.
throwing busses around on each other maybe ?
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On March 13 2024 10:28 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:23 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 04:00 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:40 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 03:35 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 03:02 justanothertownie wrote:Koshi, please explain how this: On March 12 2024 17:05 Koshi wrote:Ok. Game is still very interesting. I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable. We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one. Next. As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry. I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.
I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.JAT & Rels. So difficult. Palmar ((( I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well. Became this: On March 12 2024 17:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie. On March 12 2024 21:06 Koshi wrote:
Palmar/JAT/Rels then.
Maybe dmb but I trust my man MZ. On March 13 2024 02:16 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2024 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Just waiting for Koshi to townread him so we get the okay from flight control Funny. But he is my ally. No questions asked. With nothing in between. You are taking 2 people who I could see being mafia from the table for very flimsy reasoning. Was there a great reevaluation which you did not tell us? Or did you just forget you were supposed to rethink this? I did. And we are still friends. Sounds like one of you/Mz got the unclaimed whisperer. Inexplicably sad today. Is it one of you It was me. I cba with that. I had the thought during my work that the whisperer not claiming meant it probably ended up on a scum that didn't want the pressure of talking or claiming they had it but wouldn't use it. In my mind, that meant that Palmar/you/JAT/DP/Jealous/Vivax for sure didn't get it. Very, very surprised that you didn't at least claim it during the day To be fair, as scum!Koshi he could have just never claimed it and the thought that it went to scum would still be the default, so honestly him claiming it later in the cycle is NAI at worst IMO.
It feels.like he hasn't been thinking at all though about it. Which is scummy.
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On March 13 2024 10:30 Rels wrote:
unless he's scum and someone else on his team got it but can't/don't want to handle the heat of talking 1:1 withs someone or claiming in thread that they can't be assed
what do you mean? just not use it then ???
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On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario
you dont think palmar ?
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On March 13 2024 10:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:37 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 13 2024 10:34 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:31 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 13 2024 10:24 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 06:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 00:50 CopCake wrote:
I am lynching Palmar tomorrow no matter what, is my duty as town to do so. Why? ??? CopCake, why would you lynch Palmar? He's confirmed town in your view, since DP said he would shoot him during N2. Well dp hit scum with his shot so obviously dp is now likely town what kinda a question is that? In the world of CopCake, she and DMB are confirmed town because DP said he was going to shoot them N2 and wasn't roleblocked. Checking DP's posts, he also mentioned he would shoot Palmar VE and I I think she's come around. This strikes me as trying to make cc paranoid we should all be glad her reasoning around this has changed unless you personally believe dp is scum? ?? The logic is extremely stupid, I don't buy it for a second. I talked a lot of about why Vivax HAD to be roleblocked But CopCake believed it vehemently during D3, why would she drop it? I would bet that at least 30 posts are dedicated to defending this theory. She was also right in her world view, VE was a target and he flipped town!
this is correct i think
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On March 13 2024 10:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:38 iamperfection wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario you dont think palmar ? Let me reread THE post
jacob put some good effort in go read it again. i added some of my own things in my list post.
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you should throw out what you think jacob you or dp has to be the kill.
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On March 13 2024 10:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 06:59 Palmar wrote:
So like I'm going to try to sort of organize the game in my head, and I'm going to do it out loud, so you can watch me think. It's a fascinating display.
We probably have about 5 mafia in this game. It could be 4, but then they have very strong roles. Normal balance would suggest 5.
This means I need to start sort of filtering down the people I want to think about.
First up, the people I don't really want to lynch or even consider at all:
DarthPunk for huge filter and repeatedly liking his takes on things.
Vivax because that's the gamble we made when we didn't policy lynch him.
Then there's the weaker town reads that are definitely going to contain some mafia:
Koshi was very good early day 1, but I feel like his impact has been reduced. Still not enough to start calling him mafia
marvellosity - I kinda think he's maybe town, he did come around on me correctly, and I kinda trust sandro's read. So for what it's worth, he goes into the "worry later" pile.
Then there's the people who will be resolved by today
Slam - we lynch slam if Oats flips non-miller town. The frame idea is statistically so unlikely
Oats - we lynch Oats today because despite his efforts, there is like 90% chance of him flipping mafia. He does look and say townie things which is pretty well played, but the odds of any other random player flipping red just happen to be significantly lower
Frame math:
Slam check 1/18 (lynches + himself) players = 5.56% chance he checks Oats
Framer frames 1/14 players (21 - 2 lynches - 5 mafia) = 7.14% chance Oats gets framed
This means there's like... 0.3% chance a framer hits the same target the cop checks (but obviously intiution skews this a lot) it's still the best play to do it like that.
Actually as I write this I realize I have way too few townread, which means I really, really need to get work done. For one reason or another I don't trust any of the people below.
Jealous - lack of investigation from me, little posting
Meapak_Ziphh - lack of investigation from me, I'm masoned with the dude but I'm a terrible mason partner because I think they're stupid. That's mostly on me. I also recall some of his posting being a little meek
justanothertownie - Some really atrocious takes throughout the game. Bullshit associative reads and voting without any kind of analysis.
die_meatbaby - lack of investigation from me. I remember having a different feel from last game, but she still gets stuck on dumb shit.
CopCake - I kinda liked rayn's point during the night. Also she should really think I'm town after our discussion in the night.
JacobStrangelove - This guy is clearly just smart. I liked his posting because it's all pretty reasonable, but I feel like he isn't moving the needle at all this game. Happy sitting back and not getting listened to.
Iamperfection - One particularly terrible take during the night, but maybe he just doesn't know what a policy lynch is. I didn't follow up enough to understand if it was malicious or just kinda stupid.
ToTheStars - lurker
VisceraEyes - Fell off cliff. Where VE?
Rels - Terrible case on me on day 1 that reeked of mafia trying to "contribute". Super clear he wasn't caught up on the game and lacked opinionsþ
The dumbtells are in bold Does it really post this as scum? Especially DMB was pushed for a seemingly forced dumbtell earlier? I have a hard time seeing this. I know it's a little dumb but I really do
what are you saying that he didnt pick up that jacob had claimed gunsmith?
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On March 13 2024 10:48 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:46 iamperfection wrote:On March 13 2024 10:43 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 06:59 Palmar wrote:
So like I'm going to try to sort of organize the game in my head, and I'm going to do it out loud, so you can watch me think. It's a fascinating display.
We probably have about 5 mafia in this game. It could be 4, but then they have very strong roles. Normal balance would suggest 5.
This means I need to start sort of filtering down the people I want to think about.
First up, the people I don't really want to lynch or even consider at all:
DarthPunk for huge filter and repeatedly liking his takes on things.
Vivax because that's the gamble we made when we didn't policy lynch him.
Then there's the weaker town reads that are definitely going to contain some mafia:
Koshi was very good early day 1, but I feel like his impact has been reduced. Still not enough to start calling him mafia
marvellosity - I kinda think he's maybe town, he did come around on me correctly, and I kinda trust sandro's read. So for what it's worth, he goes into the "worry later" pile.
Then there's the people who will be resolved by today
Slam - we lynch slam if Oats flips non-miller town. The frame idea is statistically so unlikely
Oats - we lynch Oats today because despite his efforts, there is like 90% chance of him flipping mafia. He does look and say townie things which is pretty well played, but the odds of any other random player flipping red just happen to be significantly lower
Frame math:
Slam check 1/18 (lynches + himself) players = 5.56% chance he checks Oats
Framer frames 1/14 players (21 - 2 lynches - 5 mafia) = 7.14% chance Oats gets framed
This means there's like... 0.3% chance a framer hits the same target the cop checks (but obviously intiution skews this a lot) it's still the best play to do it like that.
Actually as I write this I realize I have way too few townread, which means I really, really need to get work done. For one reason or another I don't trust any of the people below.
Jealous - lack of investigation from me, little posting
Meapak_Ziphh - lack of investigation from me, I'm masoned with the dude but I'm a terrible mason partner because I think they're stupid. That's mostly on me. I also recall some of his posting being a little meek
justanothertownie - Some really atrocious takes throughout the game. Bullshit associative reads and voting without any kind of analysis.
die_meatbaby - lack of investigation from me. I remember having a different feel from last game, but she still gets stuck on dumb shit.
CopCake - I kinda liked rayn's point during the night. Also she should really think I'm town after our discussion in the night.
JacobStrangelove - This guy is clearly just smart. I liked his posting because it's all pretty reasonable, but I feel like he isn't moving the needle at all this game. Happy sitting back and not getting listened to.
Iamperfection - One particularly terrible take during the night, but maybe he just doesn't know what a policy lynch is. I didn't follow up enough to understand if it was malicious or just kinda stupid.
ToTheStars - lurker
VisceraEyes - Fell off cliff. Where VE?
Rels - Terrible case on me on day 1 that reeked of mafia trying to "contribute". Super clear he wasn't caught up on the game and lacked opinionsþ
The dumbtells are in bold Does it really post this as scum? Especially DMB was pushed for a seemingly forced dumbtell earlier? I have a hard time seeing this. I know it's a little dumb but I really do what are you saying that he didnt pick up that jacob had claimed gunsmith? As town that's the explanation yeah As scum, it's impossible he doesn't know IMO, it would be talked about in their Discord. So as scum, that's an intentional dumbtell
eh i dont know about that. The first dumb tell was after marv had already done the same thing i believe. The second one is just not reading the thread as closely which feels scummy to me. You have a point though.
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On March 13 2024 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
lol I totally forgot about the changes to the deadline, was just about to write out my reads and then it didn't matter.
we run on freedom time.
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kind of feel like i want to see what palmar and cop do when they come back.
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