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Vivax
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On March 04 2024 20:46 DarthPunk wrote: VE does that. You are notably paranoid as town. What if I am not in this game or at the moment at least, but still town ? Not the point either way. I‘m adding TTS and rayn to townpile as well. Not a good moment to expand on it for me currently. | ||
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Vivax
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's very easy to follow Cake's thought process on your "problem" with her. If she is mafia, your reasoning is definitely not why she is mafia. It's not her problem if you didn't understand she called Trfel and DMB town, hell i can even easily follow her reasoning. Just because she is being abrasive towards you (or you think so) doesn't make her mafia. That is not why I was calling her mafia. Why do you think cake is town? On March 04 2024 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Slam has actually posted some scummy shit which i will come back to later. Also his town meta imo contradicts heavily his MO this game, yet you are somehow unwilling to make any conclusion about his alignment so far. I have not played enough games with slam recently to be confident with his meta, I played 2, 1 he was town, the other mafia. Why do you expect that I would have the same meta read as you? What specifically do you think makes him mafia, because when I was talking with him he clearly was responding to and getting agitated at me about posts that were directed at cake and was basically unreadable. The only thing that I would say weirded me out was that he cast shade at me and seemed to be soft defending and buddying cake, when normally I would expect him to be sheeping my reads, but he has done that in his town and his mafia game so meh. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 20:48 Vivax wrote: What if I am not in this game or at the moment at least, but still town ? Not the point either way. I‘m adding TTS and rayn to townpile as well. Not a good moment to expand on it for me currently. Its possible, but I would expect you to be MORE paranoid about me given how things went in our last game together. Thoughts on cake and DMB? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: If I remember correctly, he called me mafia for having TMI for calling you town in a secure way. Which I applaud. Here, I honestly do not understand or I am pretty stupid. It's the exact same reason. Cakes literal first post of the game is this: On March 04 2024 13:52 CopCake wrote: Lord Trfel, Duchess meatbaby… would you like to join me for tea in this perfectly splendid day? Which she later states is her 'town circle' she has not interacted in a single way with either of these players, and I know from her last mafia game that town reads too early is a mafia tell for cake. This absolutely qualifies, further if they are town, it is also a blatant pocketing attempt. On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: Anyways, that doesnt change my read on him. He is a strong, secure player. He cares for other people’s opinions like when he was town in the game Slam was mafia. I don't see how that has changed at all in this game compare to the previous games. On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: In the marvvivaxcake game, I was asking many questions, he engaged and answered. He demanded answers. Here, I ignored him and he did nothing until Oats came and started to talk about me. This is just wrong, in this game she was only posting roleplay about a tea party, I asked her a question, she left the thread, I asked slam about her alignment, she came back to the thread and I immediately asked her a follow up question. Here is the progression: On March 04 2024 14:14 DarthPunk wrote: Any thoughts on alignments cake? she makes these two troll posts On March 04 2024 14:14 CopCake wrote: Do not worry darling, all is ok as long is not poison. We do not want a purple wedding. On March 04 2024 14:20 CopCake wrote: Shhhh, is ok my darling, it seems there was a small missunderstanding. But you are right, this generation is quite something. I ask slam about her alignment when she is gone On March 04 2024 15:12 DarthPunk wrote: Slam have you played a lot with cake? Then she arrives back in the thread with this: On March 04 2024 15:14 CopCake wrote: 🤭 This is so funny I immediately try to engage with her about the game, and she calls me out as mafia. then makes the below reads On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: In the marvvivaxcake game, I was asking many questions, he engaged and answered. He demanded answers. Here, I ignored him and he did nothing until Oats came and started to talk about me. Which is untrue and also unfair, when she was interacting in the way that she did. On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: As someone who kinda “played” him, I would imagine he would try to figure me out asap. (Played as in I stayed alive and made him second guess TTT) and this which is as inaccurate a statement as you can make, considering I was the person in the thread who most actively tried to determine your alignment On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: Thing is, DP is bravado, he has said so before such as “he controls lynches” and stuff like that. Here, he is too quiet for the exception of calling me wolf. I literally have the most posts in the game at the point you called me mafia. On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote: The fact you entered the thread in the manner in which you did, which is so different to the last game we played together, and then try to apply a meta read to me in about 1-2 hours of playing the game is just wrong.As I said before, if he was interested in me he would have called me out inmediatly for ignoring him and not just when Oats came. Idk it seems like lazy mafia using “I was right last time” By the way, none of cakes post explains three good reasons why cake is mafia. 1.) why did she come into the game town reading two other players in her first post, so strongly that she called it a 'town circle' 2.) why has she actively and blatantly avoided taking stances and playing/progressing the game (i couldn't tell you a position she holds right now apart from me being mafia and her few town reads) 3.) she makes meta reads based on completely different and absurd circumstances, strong and confident ones at that. | ||
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DarthPunk
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 20:48 Vivax wrote: What if I am not in this game or at the moment at least, but still town ? Not the point either way. I‘m adding TTS and rayn to townpile as well. Not a good moment to expand on it for me currently. I'm not happy with this either. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
You have played with me once and you are a copcake expert. 🧠 Btw Marv, I know. I am not being agressive I think. Jacob, I dont understand your logic. | ||
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DarthPunk
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and in that case there is two good reasons for town!cake to second guess the validity of this read. first is this: On March 04 2024 20:20 DarthPunk wrote: Cake does this post make you question your meta read on me at all? This was made well before I had a role PM, so you can agree that it is true right? Second is her whole approach to the game being different so obviously people will interact with her differently. The icing on the cake is that the later justification for her blatant scummy reaction to being asked to justify her reads is completely refutable. I really don't understand how she just gets a pass here. and this post: On March 04 2024 16:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i just think you have some unreasonable reads. Namely Cake and Slam. Is crazy to me, how is my read unreasonable here? Like sure rayn can call her town or whatever for dumb reasons, but calling my read unreasonable is really too much. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 20:56 CopCake wrote: You have played more games with Slam and cant decide a read on him. You have played with me once and you are a copcake expert. 🧠 Btw Marv, I know. I am not being agressive I think. Jacob, I dont understand your logic. My case on you is not a meta case. Rayn is talking specifically about meta. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 20:20 DarthPunk wrote: Cake does this post make you question your meta read on me at all? This was made well before I had a role PM, so you can agree that it is true right? Can you answer this please. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving). I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask). And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads. If you are following the thread and not posting a lot list posts can help, and comments on the largest/most notable events in the thread. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On March 04 2024 20:54 DarthPunk wrote: It's the exact same reason. Cakes literal first post of the game is this: Which she later states is her 'town circle' she has not interacted in a single way with either of these players, and I know from her last mafia game that town reads too early is a mafia tell for cake. This absolutely qualifies, further if they are town, it is also a blatant pocketing attempt. I don't see how that has changed at all in this game compare to the previous games. This is just wrong, in this game she was only posting roleplay about a tea party, I asked her a question, she left the thread, I asked slam about her alignment, she came back to the thread and I immediately asked her a follow up question. Here is the progression: she makes these two troll posts I ask slam about her alignment when she is gone Then she arrives back in the thread with this: I immediately try to engage with her about the game, and she calls me out as mafia. then makes the below reads Which is untrue and also unfair, when she was interacting in the way that she did. and this which is as inaccurate a statement as you can make, considering I was the person in the thread who most actively tried to determine your alignment I literally have the most posts in the game at the point you called me mafia. The fact you entered the thread in the manner in which you did, which is so different to the last game we played together, and then try to apply a meta read to me in about 1-2 hours of playing the game is just wrong. By the way, none of cakes post explains three good reasons why cake is mafia. 1.) why did she come into the game town reading two other players in her first post, so strongly that she called it a 'town circle' 2.) why has she actively and blatantly avoided taking stances and playing/progressing the game (i couldn't tell you a position she holds right now apart from me being mafia and her few town reads) 3.) she makes meta reads based on completely different and absurd circumstances, strong and confident ones at that. Tunnel me if you desire but I tend to do this. As town and as mafia. I tend to be like “Detective Glowing bear will your hold my hand and find mafia together?” And stuff like “Shockey, if you were a sea animal, what would you be?” For example, shockey said a killer whale which is a beast animal and he was mafia. I think mafia kinda out themselves when asked about random stuff, like if you ask for what they are listening to, they will more likely say something heavier than what they tend to listen usually. You should try this technique sometime. It is my own way of solving the game, there is a logic to it. I liked dumb a lot for calling you out, it felt natural. I also liked trfel and I have a mads respect for him after last game, therefore, invited into a “town circle”. I think the concept here is what you have trouble with. The fact they were invited doesnt mean I cant change my opinion of them which you are assuming. If Slam told you “yes I have played with cake a lot” does it have some value to you? | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
It holds no value to me. I tend to be happier when I roll town after being mafia, on the opposite if I am mafia and I roll mafia again, I would be very frustrated. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 21:06 CopCake wrote: It holds no value to me. I tend to be happier when I roll town after being mafia, on the opposite if I am mafia and I roll mafia again, I would be very frustrated. but it holds value to me right? Because I was feeling burned out from mafia in general, and I said this before the game started, so you can acknowledge its real to me correct? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think Cake is town? I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia. Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right? | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On March 04 2024 21:08 DarthPunk wrote: but it holds value to me right? Because I was feeling burned out from mafia in general, and I said this before the game started, so you can acknowledge its real to me correct? Idk, people tend to say stuff before and act complete oposite. Those kind of comments do not have importance to me. That is why I avoid to make them. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On March 04 2024 21:05 CopCake wrote: Tunnel me if you desire but I tend to do this. As town and as mafia. I tend to be like “Detective Glowing bear will your hold my hand and find mafia together?” And stuff like “Shockey, if you were a sea animal, what would you be?” For example, shockey said a killer whale which is a beast animal and he was mafia. I think mafia kinda out themselves when asked about random stuff, like if you ask for what they are listening to, they will more likely say something heavier than what they tend to listen usually. You should try this technique sometime. It is my own way of solving the game, there is a logic to it. I liked dumb a lot for calling you out, it felt natural. I also liked trfel and I have a mads respect for him after last game, therefore, invited into a “town circle”. I think the concept here is what you have trouble with. The fact they were invited doesnt mean I cant change my opinion of them which you are assuming. If Slam told you “yes I have played with cake a lot” does it have some value to you? What do you think of this DP? | ||
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DarthPunk
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Marv I want to know why you dropped the pressure on cake so quickly. | ||
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