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On March 14 2024 19:26 CopCake wrote:
Then I have DP and Koshi saying if Palmar is town then Cake is mafia.
It feels like a set up.
Yes, yes, I know you are scumming reading Palmar but why said “it is not impossible”
I would rather get lynched, because tomorrow is going to be “cake vs someone else, maybe Jat”
Idk, I dont want to be the mafia tool of misslynches.
Like c’mon it is like
“Cake is super mafia lets lynch her” VE flips town
And next day
“Lets lynch Palmar” but if he flips town then is cake
You have been convinced I am mafia, why do I get saved? Why do I got saved by iamp?
At least with my flip, THE TOWN will consider the WORLDS i have proposed. They will see I was right on Tfrel, on VE, and that my actions are not for TMI.
This is also very weird.
You're voting me, so this shouldn't be a concern at all? If you think I'm mafia, you can't really be worried about me flipping town and people going after you. Unless you don't think I'm mafia? But if that's the case why are you voting me?
How can lynching your scumread be a setup to lynch you?
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What MZ says is not important. The entire point is this is what Rels reads out of the case:
On March 14 2024 10:35 Rels wrote:
Not on bad post on Palmar TBH
Kinda townie from MZ too, thinking about the game as a whole and thinking about Palmar and I being partner. If Palmar is town, that means that this analysis is thrown out the window as soon as one of us flips
Essentially Rels understands this to be an associative case, ie: hinging on us being mafia TOGETHER. His claims that if either of us flip (town), the case goes out the window.
So in a town!Rels world, the only outcome of the case where it has any merit is if I flip mafia, which would implicate him. But why would town!Rels just accept that outcome
Additionally, town!Rels should know he's town and he thinks I'm scum!Palmar, so why is he okay with an association where the case concludes we're scum!Rels and scum!Palmar or town!Rels and town!Palmar. Either he should be attacking the idea that our alignments are linked in any way, or he should be changing his stance on me.
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For the record I think MZs case is stupid.
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I should filter dive jat and find his hard hitting takes on rels
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Hey JAT has actually talked about Rels a bit. Even made a case on him on day1.
then made a terrible read where he said the stupid "1 mafia between Palmar and Rels". I really hope someone called that terrible at the time.
The seemed to back off to the point of claiming mindmeld.
I need an update from jat on rels. Maybe jat should convince me to lynch Rels?
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On March 07 2024 00:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Other wagon(s) will come later. The conclusion from my own is 1 of Rels and Palmar + MZ are likely mafia. Would mean the team was spread out well which is what I expect. Terrible analysis
Oh thank god, someone did. Thank you for your service citizen.
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After all JAT is my #1 supporter
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Need more DP in my life to help
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On March 14 2024 20:30 DarthPunk wrote:Our schedules are the polar opposite. I’m about to go to sleep I can post for a bit though. What’s up?
Read what I wrote about Rels' reaction to MZ case.
Read jat's initial defense.
Give thoughts.
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I know it's kinda bad.
Also, CC complaining about being set up to be next in line after I (her scumread) flips town is really bad as well.
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On March 14 2024 20:52 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 20:38 Palmar wrote:
I know it's kinda bad.
Also, CC complaining about being set up to be next in line after I (her scumread) flips town is really bad as well. Yes that is bad. Add it to the super long list. Then explain how some people can strongly town read her.. 🤷
It's the "I'm afraid to lynch an crazy townie over mafia".
Like I want her to be mafia, because that makes her smart. If she is mafia she is exploiting town's resistance to killing martyrs, she spewing bullshit reasons for everything she does and getting away with it.
But there is a reason people don't like killing martyrs and people who just think about the game in incredibly strange ways. Experience has taught us that there are plenty of people who don't act and play rationally as town.
So do we gamble on her being clever scum and not just bad town? I don't know. I'm more inclined to do it after this latest post from her.
If jat's initial defense looked a tiny bit better, CC's initial defense looked a tiny bit worse.
Sentences like JAT's "I can't help but defend myself even if I know it's not the best" sound.... kinda towny? maybe? But I don't know.
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On March 14 2024 21:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You gone? I’m off to bed then.
Well the call needs to be made.
I think I'll lynch any into cc, jat, rels at this point.
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On March 14 2024 21:03 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 18:43 Koshi wrote:
##vote Palmar
It's JAT and Palmar. I truly hope I get lynched before you jubjubs lynch either cc or MZ. Because maybe that might stop you from throwing this game.
DP, you are legit too stubborn to play this game succesfully.
Probably I am too flimsy and together we might get somewhere.
But it is not going to happen. I am sheeping this And VE And jacob I mean I am so bad at playing I should follow my superiors
Yeah but now Koshi is voting something else. Stop with the self-pitying, it's a tired act.
Do you have any opinions on what has been developing over the last few pages? What do you think of jat? What do you think of my point about Rels? Do you have any updates on your read on me now that I've been pretty active in the thread for a while?
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On March 14 2024 21:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 21:01 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2024 21:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You gone? I’m off to bed then.
Well the call needs to be made. I think I'll lynch any into cc, jat, rels at this point. I’m fine with all of those. We should probably lynch whoever is least likely to survive over yourself though.
I kinda don't think I'm in any real danger of dying. I feel like if there is one town in MZ and Rels they will be forced to reconsider their opinion on me as the day goes on, and I almost can't believe iamp would stick with his vote on me.
I just really, really want to hit mafia today. It's gonna make my life so much easier, and it's going to be hard and I'm probably going to have to be on the forefront of the wagon targeting said mafia. And I really, really don't want to mislynch a townie and have to deal with the bullshit fallout of that.
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On March 14 2024 21:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Will you be around in 8 hours still palmar?
I’ll be back then.
Until then I’m happy to be parked on JAT and see what develops from him.
If you make a decision based on what happens while I’m asleep I’ll consider it on its merits.
I plan to be around to manage the lead up to the flip
I will try to be around in maybe 9-ish hours. That's the evening my time.
Good night man, sorry for keeping you up.
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On March 14 2024 21:08 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 21:05 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2024 21:03 CopCake wrote:On March 13 2024 18:43 Koshi wrote:
##vote Palmar
It's JAT and Palmar. I truly hope I get lynched before you jubjubs lynch either cc or MZ. Because maybe that might stop you from throwing this game.
DP, you are legit too stubborn to play this game succesfully.
Probably I am too flimsy and together we might get somewhere.
But it is not going to happen. I am sheeping this And VE And jacob I mean I am so bad at playing I should follow my superiors Yeah but now Koshi is voting something else. Stop with the self-pitying, it's a tired act. Do you have any opinions on what has been developing over the last few pages? What do you think of jat? What do you think of my point about Rels? Do you have any updates on your read on me now that I've been pretty active in the thread for a while? I will post my testament when I get lynched.
How about now?
This is so frustrating to deal with. If you're town why do you not want to help? What is the problem? We're trying to have a game of mafia and you've just decided that because someone said something mean to you at some point all of us need to be collectively punished and taught a lesson?
Mafia is a hard game, if you sign up, you need to play.
I don't want to mislynch you if you're town, but you're making it incredibly hard to not come to the conclusion that no one would be this selfish as town, and the reason for your demotivation is not just that you don't have the energy to defend yourself.
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On March 14 2024 22:09 iamperfection wrote:
Palmar what do you make of JAT not voting?
Nothing really. I don't blame anyone for being undecided or confused this game. Mafia is doing a great job.
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On March 14 2024 22:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 19:48 Palmar wrote:What MZ says is not important. The entire point is this is what Rels reads out of the case: On March 14 2024 10:35 Rels wrote:
Not on bad post on Palmar TBH
Kinda townie from MZ too, thinking about the game as a whole and thinking about Palmar and I being partner. If Palmar is town, that means that this analysis is thrown out the window as soon as one of us flips Essentially Rels understands this to be an associative case, ie: hinging on us being mafia TOGETHER. His claims that if either of us flip (town), the case goes out the window. So in a town!Rels world, the only outcome of the case where it has any merit is if I flip mafia, which would implicate him. But why would town!Rels just accept that outcome Additionally, town!Rels should know he's town and he thinks I'm scum!Palmar, so why is he okay with an association where the case concludes we're scum!Rels and scum!Palmar or town!Rels and town!Palmar. Either he should be attacking the idea that our alignments are linked in any way, or he should be changing his stance on me. i like this point
This Palmar is so towny right?
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On March 14 2024 22:27 CopCake wrote:
Because I do not see him as scum
Who do you see as scum?
You've already kinda said you don't really independently think I'm mafia, just that you're sheeping random people. And you don't think JAT is.
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EPT
