• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:05
CEST 17:05
KST 00:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week2[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall10HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation14$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced6Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles6[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China10Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL68
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 1 - Final Week Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation TL Team Map Contest #4: Winners Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL BW General Discussion Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [G] Progamer Settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Positive Thoughts on Setting Up a Dual-Caliber FX
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 667 users

A Classy Game of Mafia - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 15:52 GMT
#697
I currently think rayn is town and he would be a good choice for mayor as well. However, rayn is much better scum than me. Also marv which I lean null atm has masoned me and wants to to get behind rayn. Which there is a fair town motivation to do, but also gives rise to some conspiracies in my head. Thus I think I'm the better, safer choice.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 16:29 GMT
#736
@mz It's more of a hunch and a feeling than any actual posts triggering alarm bells. That being said, it has been pointed out to me that his town meta has been known to cause this sort of suspicion, so I'll need to read up on it at some point.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 16:32 GMT
#739
Ah, both JSL and iamp have pointed out some dmb post as being scummy. Not sure if jsl read last game or previous dmb meta, but iamp I know has read it.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 16:52 GMT
#751
@rayn I'm chatting a bit with marv and I'm curious about how you came to town read him. We've chatted a bit post game and I remember you being skeptical of reads being made through private chats.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 16:57 GMT
#754
On March 05 2024 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 01:52 sandroba wrote:
@rayn I'm chatting a bit with marv and I'm curious about how you came to town read him. We've chatted a bit post game and I remember you being skeptical of reads being made through private chats.

he gave pretty much the same "reads list" at some point in our chat that i had at the time. before i said anything about my reads.

Based on what you told me before I'm having difficulty accepting you built trust with marv only based on that being shared privately.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 17:07 GMT
#768
On March 05 2024 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba do you think mafia marv would mason you, or anyone?

possibly, if he had some agenda
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 17:14 GMT
#783
On March 05 2024 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 02:07 sandroba wrote:
On March 05 2024 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba do you think mafia marv would mason you, or anyone?

possibly, if he had some agenda

Is he pushing some agenda? Aside from what i told him to push towards you?

Besides that no, but from my vantage point, I'm still trying to decide how unlikely this is to be mafia agenda
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 17:21 GMT
#789
On March 05 2024 02:13 Vivax wrote:
I have been thinking a bit about it and believe that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks of me claiming Jailkeeper on D1.

That‘s basically the only reason I want to be mayor.

I think that with half the day over we‘re far enough in the phase to have gathered who else was keen on the mayor spot without having the role to justify it.

Vivax, especially after this claim I really think you are town. However, you have likely rendered the role useless. Basically, making you mayor is prob guaranteeing a town mayor but not much else.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 17:46 GMT
#835
On March 05 2024 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax is town but I don’t trust his lynch target if he gets elected.

Slam there is no point doing anything with. Let mafia deal with him and if he’s alive in X days revisit it.

Vivax is prob role-blocked and killed however now if not elected. If elected we are probably tying up a possible rb on him forever. Either way we lost one protective role for town, but now we have to think about how to minimize the damage or make the best situation out of it.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 18:00 GMT
#849
On March 05 2024 02:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster - probs town
DarthPunk - townish
Vivax - town
sandroba - town
Trfel - unsure, seems slightly off for me from town game
marvellosity - town
Jealous - not posted
Meapak_Ziphh - townish
Palmar - not posted
justanothertownie - not posted
die_meatbaby - town
CopCake - null, maybe teeny tiny bit townish perhaps?
JacobStrangelove - weird, cant make a read on him
Hapahauli - not posted
Iamperfection - town
Koshi - meh, useless
ToTheStars - would like to see more, read on trfel sounds townish
VisceraEyes - scummy, useless
Rels - useless
Alakaslam - town

Hard to argue

coming around to marv maybe. iamp still not convinced. We have to find someone to push though, because as it stands it's very easy for mafia to hide and appear townie.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 18:04 GMT
#855
By process of elimination koshi, ve, jsl have given me the fewest or none reasons to find them townie so far.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 18:56 GMT
#914
Not useless, but less useful than a jk. Either way, no use dwelling if it was a good play or not, there is no going back in time.
I haven't ruled out voting vivax for mayor.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 19:14 GMT
#961
Last game I read koshi's post and got townie vibes d1 pretty soon. Not so in this game. The aim of his posts doesn't feel pro town here. Hmmmm
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 19:42 GMT
#1020
Why are you trying to keep this useless trash nai discussion going CopCake?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 19:43 GMT
#1021
On March 05 2024 04:42 iamperfection wrote:
Alright we are getting off track. Humoring vivaxs delusions that he made a good play is a waste of time. You either think he is scum or town for that he did we aren't voting him mayor.

Let's talk about how useless ve has been. He also is running for mayor but his post seems insincere to me. I'm voting him

okay iamp moved to town
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 19:43 GMT
#1025
On March 05 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?

And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?

I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.

Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.

Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.
I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no?

That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc.
You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea.

If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds.

Second wagon is often a townie as well. Mafia waits till town suggest a second town wagon and then sits on those 2 wagons. Then town vigis or kills second wagon as is tradition. I still think it is protown to want to give town 2 lynches, as it always provides information. But don't use the wrong reasons.

still scummy
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 19:44 GMT
#1029
On March 05 2024 04:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 04:42 iamperfection wrote:
Alright we are getting off track. Humoring vivaxs delusions that he made a good play is a waste of time. You either think he is scum or town for that he did we aren't voting him mayor.

Let's talk about how useless ve has been. He also is running for mayor but his post seems insincere to me. I'm voting him

What post?

I like that this is what caught Rels attention
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 19:49 GMT
#1040
On March 05 2024 04:47 Koshi wrote:
I wrote this; decided not to post yet to see follow up
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
So the game started not even an hour ago and people making here already Townreads. How is this possible. I would never give somebody a townread this early.

And how are we supposed to choose a mayor who should be town so early in the game

Don't like this because it breaks the flow of the recent good posts made by iamps & DP

See this:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:52 iamperfection wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
So the game started not even an hour ago and people making here already Townreads. How is this possible. I would never give somebody a townread this early.

And how are we supposed to choose a mayor who should be town so early in the game

upset that town are making town reads?


In addition I like how iamp handled Oats. With humor and progression in reading Oats.
And
I liked how iamp tried to steer away town from retardation around theorycrafting the second wagon.

So iamp lock town till D3

hmm i like your use of retardation
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 20:00 GMT
#1069
On March 05 2024 04:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 04:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi can maybe be town.

koshi posting still usless. Why is he town?

fair point by dmb tbh
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2024 20:03 GMT
#1078
On March 05 2024 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If there is anything i learned from the MS game, it's that lynch people who post bullshit.
DMB is mafia.

probably not rayn. People go by memory and feeling, I don't think her sentiment is fake there.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #217
davetesta68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko437
SC2Nice 69
trigger 58
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1766
EffOrt 1046
firebathero 585
Stork 511
Mini 457
Snow 334
hero 246
actioN 219
Rush 161
Mind 127
[ Show more ]
Backho 116
ToSsGirL 110
Zeus 96
Hyun 92
JYJ79
Pusan 71
Sea.KH 63
sas.Sziky 61
sSak 56
HiyA 51
soO 48
Sharp 44
sorry 41
JulyZerg 35
Shinee 32
yabsab 26
Aegong 18
Rock 17
zelot 13
Terrorterran 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
IntoTheRainbow 8
SilentControl 6
Hm[arnc] 5
Dota 2
Gorgc8590
qojqva2455
syndereN345
febbydoto9
Counter-Strike
flusha426
Foxcn324
chrisJcsgo127
markeloff121
kRYSTAL_34
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor174
XaKoH 162
Other Games
B2W.Neo1797
crisheroes643
DeMusliM520
Fuzer 298
RotterdaM196
Hui .142
ArmadaUGS62
QueenE56
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick38843
BasetradeTV25
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6346
• TFBlade835
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 55m
RSL Revival
18h 55m
Classic vs Cure
FEL
1d
OSC
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
SHIN vs Clem
FEL
1d 20h
FEL
2 days
CSO Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs QiaoGege
Dewalt vs Fengzi
Hawk vs Zhanhun
Sziky vs Mihu
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Sziky
Fengzi vs Hawk
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
FEL
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-07-07
HSC XXVII
NC Random Cup

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.