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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 13:15 GMT
#7559
I was perfectly fine with the little interaction between her and Vivax where they were worrying about axe murderers. They seemed to agree they're safe.

Keep thinking that...
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 13:16 GMT
#7560
On March 13 2024 22:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 22:11 Palmar wrote:
On March 13 2024 22:04 iamperfection wrote:
On March 13 2024 22:00 Palmar wrote:
By the way I feel like I've noticed you getting hung on weird stuff that is completely expected several times this game iamp.

The only reason I'm givivng you a tiny town read is that I think I'm sheeping marv.

? You have played with me before why do you have to sheep marv

See this is the kinda shit that bothers me. Why wouldn't I sheep marv? He's a really, really good town player that I respect. What on earth is weird about that?

I'll do a highlight of other instances of you being weird:

On March 12 2024 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 07:04 iamperfection wrote:
On March 12 2024 07:02 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 06:59 Jealous wrote:
Feels like Koshi went into that filter with the outcome already in mind.


Oh he absolutely did, not sure that says anything though

How can it not say anything? I don't get why you openly reject what he is saying. It looks like your not trying to figure out his or cc alignment. Which of course is super scummy.

Why the shade on this?

I have plenty of explanations for my own reasons behind leaning slight town on koshi and cc as a pretty wild-cardy null at the moment.

I don't think it says anything about Koshi that he wrote a case to support his conclusion, he's been plenty vocal that he thinks cc is town. It would actually be surprising if he didn't write that towncase with the outcome already established....

Actually almost all cases are written with the outcome already in mind I think, do you disagree?


For some reason iamp doesn't know why people write cases? Cases are there to convince other people of your existing conclusions... usually.

On March 12 2024 01:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:00 iamperfection wrote:
You are a bufoon. I literally lead the wagon on trfel.

I said it's just a feeling that I can't back up.

I had a similar feeling about Trfel last game, and when I finally bothered reading him I came away thinking lock town. That's a big part of how we won that game.

You're not up for lynch today, so it doesn't really matter to me.


Iamp gets mad and claims to have lead the wagon on day 1? I don't remember it that way, but I didn't care much about the trfel wagon. Why do you care?

On March 07 2024 01:09 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:04 iamperfection wrote:
If you both think each other is mafia why is there all this mucking up the thread with each other.

Quit bitching, the upper class is having a meeting.


Iamp complains about me and rayn arguing with each other in the process of figuring out each other's alignment? Why not just let us hash it out?

On March 07 2024 01:14 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:12 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa


then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

Like looking at this post you have trfel as a policy lynch but in the bottom it isn't.


yeah, makes perfect sense right?

No lol. Looks like your just making up shit to me.

Did you notice that I also called Vivax town!

How cool is that?


Iamp for some reason doesn't know what a policy lynch is?

It's all strange and I don't really like it. Not even sure it makes him mafia, just annoying to deal with. I would need to dive into that filter of endless oneliners to actually reach a harder conclusion but it's whatever.

It's not endless one liners. I am clearly town you not seeing that on your own makes me think your mafia because your clearly not reading my posts then. I have given my thoughts on every player in the game several times.


He said replying with a oneliner.

Hey I know I'm almost (but not quite) as bad as treating forum mafia as an IM tool.

And I do NOT deny not having read your filter. That's literally what I'm saying. I haven't read it so I'm relying on other people who called you town and deciding to worry about you later.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 13:23 GMT
#7563
On March 13 2024 22:17 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 22:15 Palmar wrote:
I was perfectly fine with the little interaction between her and Vivax where they were worrying about axe murderers. They seemed to agree they're safe.

Keep thinking that...

What are you saying?

Are you trolling me at this point?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 13:26 GMT
#7565
On March 13 2024 22:19 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 22:16 Palmar wrote:
On March 13 2024 22:14 iamperfection wrote:
On March 13 2024 22:11 Palmar wrote:
On March 13 2024 22:04 iamperfection wrote:
On March 13 2024 22:00 Palmar wrote:
By the way I feel like I've noticed you getting hung on weird stuff that is completely expected several times this game iamp.

The only reason I'm givivng you a tiny town read is that I think I'm sheeping marv.

? You have played with me before why do you have to sheep marv

See this is the kinda shit that bothers me. Why wouldn't I sheep marv? He's a really, really good town player that I respect. What on earth is weird about that?

I'll do a highlight of other instances of you being weird:

On March 12 2024 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 07:04 iamperfection wrote:
On March 12 2024 07:02 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 06:59 Jealous wrote:
Feels like Koshi went into that filter with the outcome already in mind.


Oh he absolutely did, not sure that says anything though

How can it not say anything? I don't get why you openly reject what he is saying. It looks like your not trying to figure out his or cc alignment. Which of course is super scummy.

Why the shade on this?

I have plenty of explanations for my own reasons behind leaning slight town on koshi and cc as a pretty wild-cardy null at the moment.

I don't think it says anything about Koshi that he wrote a case to support his conclusion, he's been plenty vocal that he thinks cc is town. It would actually be surprising if he didn't write that towncase with the outcome already established....

Actually almost all cases are written with the outcome already in mind I think, do you disagree?


For some reason iamp doesn't know why people write cases? Cases are there to convince other people of your existing conclusions... usually.

On March 12 2024 01:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:00 iamperfection wrote:
You are a bufoon. I literally lead the wagon on trfel.

I said it's just a feeling that I can't back up.

I had a similar feeling about Trfel last game, and when I finally bothered reading him I came away thinking lock town. That's a big part of how we won that game.

You're not up for lynch today, so it doesn't really matter to me.


Iamp gets mad and claims to have lead the wagon on day 1? I don't remember it that way, but I didn't care much about the trfel wagon. Why do you care?

On March 07 2024 01:09 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:04 iamperfection wrote:
If you both think each other is mafia why is there all this mucking up the thread with each other.

Quit bitching, the upper class is having a meeting.


Iamp complains about me and rayn arguing with each other in the process of figuring out each other's alignment? Why not just let us hash it out?

On March 07 2024 01:14 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2024 01:12 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa


then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

Like looking at this post you have trfel as a policy lynch but in the bottom it isn't.


yeah, makes perfect sense right?

No lol. Looks like your just making up shit to me.

Did you notice that I also called Vivax town!

How cool is that?


Iamp for some reason doesn't know what a policy lynch is?

It's all strange and I don't really like it. Not even sure it makes him mafia, just annoying to deal with. I would need to dive into that filter of endless oneliners to actually reach a harder conclusion but it's whatever.

It's not endless one liners. I am clearly town you not seeing that on your own makes me think your mafia because your clearly not reading my posts then. I have given my thoughts on every player in the game several times.


He said replying with a oneliner.

Hey I know I'm almost (but not quite) as bad as treating forum mafia as an IM tool.

And I do NOT deny not having read your filter. That's literally what I'm saying. I haven't read it so I'm relying on other people who called you town and deciding to worry about you later.

It just seems like your clearly not trying to figure out the game to me. How have you missed several big posts. You haven't read at all? Your just filter diving?


I mostly read what's in the thread when I'm there, coupled with trying to read a few pages back. I usually start posting immediately kinda just to let people know I'm available.

Then I go read filters, and go revisit old reads I remember and try to see if they're still valid. Both mine and from dead townies.

I mean, why does this matter? It was clear back on day 2 when I had no idea about JSL/DP claiming gunsmith/gun well after it had happened in the thread.

I mean if you think I'm mafia for not reading every post in the thread before I start posting, just say that. But the other part is wrong, I am actively trying to figure out what alignment people are.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 16:30 GMT
#7644
On March 13 2024 23:28 iamperfection wrote:
Palamr straight up ignored when koshi said he would vote jat with him.

It's not relevant information until I actually make a choice on who I want to lynch.

It is somehwat interesting that jat hasn't really commented much on what is going on today.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 16:37 GMT
#7646
On March 14 2024 01:35 iamperfection wrote:
Do you think Jelaous is being over defensive palmar?

The tone of his annoyance seems reasonable.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 21:54 GMT
#7720
On March 14 2024 04:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 04:14 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.

We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).

1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why

But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.


Palmar didn‘t notice the guy who didn‘t post for half a day started out by claiming VT.

TTS and hapa are mischaracterized.
TTs played early, then fucked off. For hapa it‘s the opposite.

You can interchangeably use his reasons for his TtS and Hapa verdicts. They are barely different. It‘s fake.

His Oats read was also extremely subpar. I know I repeat myself but now with the flip I am even more suspicious. Because he had to save himself and bussed a teammate weakly, then let himself get convinced Oats was town.
Town!Palmar could have done more there.

And should have.

It was an objectively correct read, because it was right for the right reasons.

I just got sidetracked by people calling me mafia and then Oats pocket defending me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 21:58 GMT
#7721
I've for some reason played extremely carefully this game and it's gotten me nowhere. I've sat on reads to try to placate people and be a good boy but I think i'm just kinda done with it.

I think iamp is mafia
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 21:59 GMT
#7723
Then there's the "I open up filter and get a feeling" thing.

I think JAT is mafia every time I start reading his filter. But his posts while in the thread while I'm there are very inoffensive and borderline townie.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:03 GMT
#7726
Too many people have decided to play weird this game too.

Like we should objectively lynch CC for making absolutely no sense. Her reads are terrible, and the way in which she achieves them is terrible. Her constant tinfoiling is super annoying and doesn't actually help anyone. Do I know if she's mafia for it? No.

I'm probably going to vote her this cycle because I see no chance of getting iamp killed this cycle.

Also, this has been in the back of my mind the entire game, because it was like the one point I agreed with rayn on when we were arguing on N1

On March 06 2024 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 21:40 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you*


I dont think he is town.

Its impossible youthink DP is pocketing Palmar if you dont think Palmar is town, if youre town.

So i guess youre mafia.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:06 GMT
#7730
On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types

I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar

Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia

I kinda made the case earlier.

The point is you've been obstinate to the point of strangeness at way too many times in this thread.

Couple that with the feel of "just existing" thing I've talked about before.

Tbf the most towny thing you've done this game is try to lynch me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:08 GMT
#7734
On March 14 2024 07:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types

I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar

Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia


Maybe he just wants you to think that so we lose the game and he can call you awful. I suspect there‘s a bunch of those afloat.

This game is corrupted

I don't do that. And I don't really have much of a leg to stand on. I haven't played great this game. I call people bad while in game, but I'm generally pretty nice in post game.

It's been extremely distracting to me this game that people have been on my ass since I basically entered the thread on day 1, and given the fact my availability is not all that high it's taken up way too much of my time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:12 GMT
#7740
I'm just gonna go say Rels is lock town.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:12 GMT
#7741
On March 14 2024 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:06 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types

I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar

Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia

I kinda made the case earlier.

The point is you've been obstinate to the point of strangeness at way too many times in this thread.

Couple that with the feel of "just existing" thing I've talked about before.

Tbf the most towny thing you've done this game is try to lynch me.

Palamr how can you say I have been just existing in this game. I literally hammered ve I exposed the masons at the start and showed why rayn was town. I was the one that explained why tts was mafia when he came back. I lead the charge on trfel I literally post almost 24/7 wtf are you talking about. You have to be mafia

Maybe I'm just wrong.

If you're town and I'm mafia it's very smart of me to pick this fight now.

But maybe I'm just right.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:15 GMT
#7747
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess?

No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.

If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.

He knew Trfel was town
He knew TTS was mafia
When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum

So much correct shit in his filter.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:16 GMT
#7749
Town circle now looks like this

Palmar, Vivax, DP, Rels

Gonna work to improve on that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:20 GMT
#7751
I need Rels to come tell me MZ is still town in his mind, I cba reading the later pages of his filter.

The more I think about it, MZ did mason me, and his literal first words were "hey I think you're town." I kinda regret now not engaging with him at all, but we're on stupid different time schedules.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:21 GMT
#7752
On March 14 2024 07:13 iamperfection wrote:
He just throwing wifom bombs now

Yeah, getting low on truth bombs
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:22 GMT
#7754
On March 14 2024 07:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:15 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, are you going with iamp and CC mafia team?
That's your best guess?

No still working, I maybe think CC is town now.

If Rels is mafia btw, he has been TMI-ing the entire fucking game lol.

He knew Trfel was town
He knew TTS was mafia
When Oats did the hero defense he still thought Oats would flip scum

So much correct shit in his filter.

I know. He is the town hero.
But like in the movies he is currently going through the rough period. With a lot of cocaine and hookers. Some self pity.
That's why he is on the wrong track now lynching CC.

Didn't you call him "the third" with JAT and I like a few hours ago?

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2024 22:22 GMT
#7755
On March 14 2024 07:22 iamperfection wrote:
I got shit to do now. Over 95% palmar is mafia. Back later.

nice dodge
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