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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 20:13 GMT
#6771
And yeah, at this point we have to lynch VE. Just stay the course.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 20:13 GMT
#6772
Post count analysis > all
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 20:51 GMT
#6805
Do you rather want VE in lylo DP?

I gave my thoughts as to why we should kill him here: https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28157981
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 20:58 GMT
#6819
On March 12 2024 05:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 05:51 Palmar wrote:
Do you rather want VE in lylo DP?

I gave my thoughts as to why we should kill him here: https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28157981


Well that is true.

I just don’t believe cake will ever die without me to hard push for it. And I truly believe she is mafia.

Noted.

I promise to follow up. At least see what you're seeing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 21:17 GMT
#6848
Thanks for making that great towncase on my CC, really appreciated.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 21:17 GMT
#6849
on me*
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 21:20 GMT
#6851
It's actually kind of amazing how scattershot CCs reads are.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 21:46 GMT
#6860
Oh now that koshi made a towncase I can see CC being mafia
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 22:00 GMT
#6871
On March 12 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Koshi are you as confident that CC is town as you were on Oats?

rofl the shade
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 22:02 GMT
#6874
On March 12 2024 06:59 Jealous wrote:
Feels like Koshi went into that filter with the outcome already in mind.


Oh he absolutely did, not sure that says anything though
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 11 2024 22:07 GMT
#6878
On March 12 2024 07:04 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 07:02 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 06:59 Jealous wrote:
Feels like Koshi went into that filter with the outcome already in mind.


Oh he absolutely did, not sure that says anything though

How can it not say anything? I don't get why you openly reject what he is saying. It looks like your not trying to figure out his or cc alignment. Which of course is super scummy.

Why the shade on this?

I have plenty of explanations for my own reasons behind leaning slight town on koshi and cc as a pretty wild-cardy null at the moment.

I don't think it says anything about Koshi that he wrote a case to support his conclusion, he's been plenty vocal that he thinks cc is town. It would actually be surprising if he didn't write that towncase with the outcome already established....

Actually almost all cases are written with the outcome already in mind I think, do you disagree?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 10:22 GMT
#7077
On March 12 2024 13:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 01:06 Palmar wrote:
I wanna talk a little about VE.

I have absolutely no idea what he is doing this game. He is playing incredibly "scummy" by not posting and just not taking part in the game, and he knows this. He has even pointed out, a few times I think, that he is being scummy. All of his posts are incredibly standoff-ish. The feeling I get is that every other thing he says is just "COME AT ME BRUH".

So what do I do with that? There is absolutely a chance that in his mind he's trying to... teach us a lesson? It's just so hard for me to justify wrangling myself into a position where it isn't just fake mafia bravado.

If we had less time, if we were one lynch away from lylo, I'd probably be doubting this lynch a little more, but as it stands I just can't find a non-stupid reason to call him town. The problem is I can find a stupid reason to call him town and I can't be fully confident it isn't the case.

But with time, lynching him is almost a no-brainer. He has, by far, the shortest filter of the players remaining, he hasn't done anything to help town. When reading through some of his stuff early on day 1 I found myself agreeing when someone scolded him and told him to try to be a good townie.

Like if you just make a list of people from those who have done the most to try to advance and solve the game (DP) to the least (VE) it makes basically no sense to let him get away with acting this way. This kind of playing is just not useful down the line.

Feel like palmar knew ve was town. The whole teach us a lesson part.

No, I voted him. I thought he would flip mafia, because now I just have to accept he decided to behave like an ass for no reason.

I just know that I don't know. This entire post is justifying killing him while waffling slightly on my behalf.

Incidentally a lot of my very early game gut reads have been correct. Trfel town, Oats scum, VE town etc

I feel like that's maybe an avenue for me to go back and think why I thought those things back then, but that's all just internal approach.

By the way, we still have to lynch incorrectly 3 times in a row to lose, so no reason to panic. VE was always going to be lynch-bait and he for some reason didn't even try to help win the game. It's not a disaster. It's a taking out the trash lynch and we can easily approach tomorrow.

Here's a thought, and somewhat of an internal process as well. I can't think of a single reason, I actually read VE's filter, to confidently say he's town. So I'm actually somewhat interested in why the people that didn't vote him didn't. I'm sure some of them just had a better read than I did, but I need to figure out the reasons because I'm also sure some of them had pretty shit reasons for it.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 10:26 GMT
#7078
I have a feeling tomorrow will be hectic for me, sadly.

I'm going to probably take a semi-break this night because I just don't have an endless amount of energy.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 10:39 GMT
#7082
lol
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 13:09 GMT
#7109
On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.

Yeah no worries.

It's actually kinda fun.

The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind.

The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly.

Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread.

The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try.

That won't be the case if I'm the target.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 13:18 GMT
#7111
I mean, I can't exactly call him making a case on me as a townie and writing one paragraph on koshi trying.

But maybe that was for other people to see.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 13:19 GMT
#7112
Btw, I'm trying to figure out when was the last time I actually rolled mafia, I literally can't find a game lol.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 13:23 GMT
#7113
Here, if people want to do the work, the last 2 games I've played as mafia:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Palmar&view=all

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=Palmar
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 13:26 GMT
#7115
Well I haven't been under that much pressure for a while now, and the days have been pretty automated. I genuinely value the time I spend on mafia, so I'm not going to be writing cases unless I need to convince people of anything.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 12 2024 13:27 GMT
#7116
I think my explanation on why I wanted VE dead was pretty straightforward. I didn't need a bunch of quotes to clarify what I meant. He was lynched for not trying.
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