How can it not say anything? I don't get why you openly reject what he is saying. It looks like your not trying to figure out his or cc alignment. Which of course is super scummy.

Why the shade on this?

I have plenty of explanations for my own reasons behind leaning slight town on koshi and cc as a pretty wild-cardy null at the moment.

I don't think it says anything about Koshi that he wrote a case to support his conclusion, he's been plenty vocal that he thinks cc is town. It would actually be surprising if he didn't write that towncase with the outcome already established....

Actually almost all cases are written with the outcome already in mind I think, do you disagree?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 10:22 GMT

#7077

On March 12 2024 13:27 iamperfection wrote:

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Feel like palmar knew ve was town. The whole teach us a lesson part.

No, I voted him. I thought he would flip mafia, because now I just have to accept he decided to behave like an ass for no reason.

I just know that I don't know. This entire post is justifying killing him while waffling slightly on my behalf.

Incidentally a lot of my very early game gut reads have been correct. Trfel town, Oats scum, VE town etc

I feel like that's maybe an avenue for me to go back and think why I thought those things back then, but that's all just internal approach.

By the way, we still have to lynch incorrectly 3 times in a row to lose, so no reason to panic. VE was always going to be lynch-bait and he for some reason didn't even try to help win the game. It's not a disaster. It's a taking out the trash lynch and we can easily approach tomorrow.

Here's a thought, and somewhat of an internal process as well. I can't think of a single reason, I actually read VE's filter, to confidently say he's town. So I'm actually somewhat interested in why the people that didn't vote him didn't. I'm sure some of them just had a better read than I did, but I need to figure out the reasons because I'm also sure some of them had pretty shit reasons for it.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 10:26 GMT

#7078

I have a feeling tomorrow will be hectic for me, sadly.

I'm going to probably take a semi-break this night because I just don't have an endless amount of energy.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 10:39 GMT

#7082

lol

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 13:09 GMT

#7109

On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.

Yeah no worries.

It's actually kinda fun.

The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind.

The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly.

Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread.

The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try.

That won't be the case if I'm the target.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 13:18 GMT

#7111

I mean, I can't exactly call him making a case on me as a townie and writing one paragraph on koshi trying.

But maybe that was for other people to see.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 13:19 GMT

#7112

Btw, I'm trying to figure out when was the last time I actually rolled mafia, I literally can't find a game lol.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 13:23 GMT

#7113

Here, if people want to do the work, the last 2 games I've played as mafia:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Palmar&view=all

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=Palmar

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 13:26 GMT

#7115

Well I haven't been under that much pressure for a while now, and the days have been pretty automated. I genuinely value the time I spend on mafia, so I'm not going to be writing cases unless I need to convince people of anything.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 12 2024 13:27 GMT

#7116

I think my explanation on why I wanted VE dead was pretty straightforward. I didn't need a bunch of quotes to clarify what I meant. He was lynched for not trying.