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On March 05 2024 23:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:53 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 23:50 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 22:12 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread. It looks really, really bad for you guys that you're all just checked out of the game but claim to be active in the thread. At least be a man and just actually check out of the game like me. Whoever is town of you three needs to start getting shit done in the thread. I’m getting you lynched bro. Wait you still think I'm mafia? Did you read my last 2 pages? So you posted. And?
And now I'm townie!
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On March 05 2024 23:58 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:56 iamperfection wrote:
Can't be bothered is not a valid reason for replacement I think I'm just done with forum mafia tbh. Hasn't been fun for me in years. Going to ask for a replacement. Sorry m8s.
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On March 05 2024 23:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:58 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 23:53 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 23:50 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 22:12 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread. It looks really, really bad for you guys that you're all just checked out of the game but claim to be active in the thread. At least be a man and just actually check out of the game like me. Whoever is town of you three needs to start getting shit done in the thread. I’m getting you lynched bro. Wait you still think I'm mafia? Did you read my last 2 pages? So you posted. And? And now I'm townie!
Why?
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Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar?
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Terrible English. Christ.
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Ugh. Here comes the CW.
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote: ToTheStars
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On March 05 2024 20:05 Koshi wrote:rayn is not scumhunting. Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia. Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right? No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment. What did it mean about that? Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things. If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment. I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia. I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment. 1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point 2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't. Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town? Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel looks too clean, it worries me. Great question by marv because I was going to ask you guys before I read this. Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 23:20 marvellosity wrote:On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia. Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right? No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment. What did it mean about that? Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things. If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment. I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia. I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment. 1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point 2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't. Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town? For the uninitiated, why can’t Slam do this as town? I don't think he can't per se. I just think he wouldn't. Like let's be honest Slam is voting either Hapa, marv or rayn for mayor (unless he has to pick someone else), mostly Hapa. I can't possibly understand why he makes posts like: "Liked trfel and now considering voting trfel for mayor" or "Second pick is VE, he has some decent logic on why he would lurker lynch." Is he ever going to actually vote for either of those people for mayor? Especially VE for THAT reasoning? I just don't see the point of putting it like that. It's kind of a townread but still not really. And i can't possibly understand why he wants me for mayor, why would you EVER want anyone for mayor who wants to lynch you??? Just because i agreed with 2 of his reads like 3 hours into the game? The slam read doesn't convince me. Point 1 is not something I would read slam mafia for. Not sure why rayn does. Slam has martyred as town a lot. At some point long ago it was a bit of a towntell. Point 2 when asked about by marv doesn't convince me at all. The tfrel read is throwaway and can be a bus even.
Also point 2 was a fat line considering none of those three he said I would want for mayor had posted.
One of them still hasn't afaics
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On March 05 2024 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote:[...] VisceraEyesPart of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. (1): He seems to be happy to be playing the game. (2): He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. [...] Palmar: 1) Why would VE not be happy to be playing as mafia as "he wishes he was mafia" and two town roles have claimed? 2) Why is this townie? He did absolutely nothing to pursue his mayoral campaign, in fact he did the best to NOT make anyone vote for him by refusing to post a single read on anyone... 3) Why is sandroba super town for his JAT read? I made the exact same read a couple of pages ago.
1) and 2) I said, it's a little bit of wishful thinking, but there is also just a general tendency of townies to be more carefree and happy than mafia. This is just a fact, because playing town is much easier.
Like one of the defining things of mafia is that you have to fake conflict, which almost forces you to be a little bit moody or aggressive or lazy. As town you can just be on your merry way and you will happily bump into conflict. There's no pressure to create reads.
3) I liked his JAT read, but I looved the fact that he also mentioned that my recent posting was indicative. It's the fast paced change of mind that makes me think it looks town. Read above about how mafia has to create conflict. It's hard work and it's mentally expensive to throw it out.
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I am at work and I will not have time to post. I will be here few hours before the lynch and than I will make my vote. Hope that there are not spawing over 50 pages
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On March 05 2024 23:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:13 Vivax wrote:
I think rayn has a decent chance to flip mafia by the way.
Cop says he can't be because he'd be angrier but there's nothing that says he isn't simply more restrained in this game.
I'm moving cop out of the mafia pool just because of what Koshi said about her and good intentions. I still think she was struggling back then and took way too long to join the chorus calling my claim awful.
Iamperfection has dropped off a lot and looks a lot like Oats at this point. I just don't see any motivation to find the right lynch here. Erratic play. I believe Oats still didn't deliver an estimation of marv and Sandroba like I asked.
I don't want to lynch Palmar. I think marv is doing jack shit, and he didn't try to run for mayor for it. The Palmar vote was his first meaningful contribution, and everyone treated it like some high priest tossed a piece of metal from a pyramid and they went wild chasing it while screeching like a bunch of teenies at a rock concert.
I also think marv is kinda avoidant of DP and I know that marv has to fear DP if he's mafia. Him masoning Sandoba over DP is bad and might explain DPs lower effort.
MZ, Rels reasonable and pro-town all around but also a bit synthetic and lacking emotion for now. Not on the table for D1 I think and they have shown that they know what it takes to not lose to a casino.
DMB I think town. I liked most of the placements in her list and she had a golden opportunity to fall into her meta of antagonizing me just for fun and blending in with others doing so. I don't think she'd want a JK as mayor as mafia either.
That's about it for now. Otherwise:
Hapa joined discord and didn't post at all so I think it's due we make him the main secondary wagon that I can kill but I also need town's consent for it. Jealous works too, just make it visible please. You don’t know me at all if you think this Vivax.
I'm just being hard on you, wouldn't want you to feel all safe and cozy.
But enough of that for today.
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On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar?
No idea.
Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game.
Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game.
Unless....
You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread.
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I still think it's a terrible idea to lynch Palmar D1.
Voting To the stars feels more phonetically pleasing.
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On March 06 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar? No idea. Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game. Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game. Unless.... You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread.
In your mind this is town marv coming after you?
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Also I had no idea you thought JAT was mafia rayn, I don't really read your filters.
But I mean.... happy we've reached the same conclusion? Friends?
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On March 06 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar? No idea. Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game. Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game. Unless.... You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread.
You’re fairly close. And those things remain consistent despite your time allowances.
And they’re absent here.
So you’re mafia.
And - i know you know I don’t push for you like this as mafia. As if you are town  I am putting myself in an incredibly difficult spot when the person I know best flips town. It’s a terrible play. The only logical explanation is I am town and I think you are mafia.
You know this.
If you were town you’d be much more actively calling me stupid and all those normal things. But you’re not.
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On March 06 2024 00:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote:[...] VisceraEyesPart of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. (1): He seems to be happy to be playing the game. (2): He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. [...] Palmar: 1) Why would VE not be happy to be playing as mafia as "he wishes he was mafia" and two town roles have claimed? 2) Why is this townie? He did absolutely nothing to pursue his mayoral campaign, in fact he did the best to NOT make anyone vote for him by refusing to post a single read on anyone... 3) Why is sandroba super town for his JAT read? I made the exact same read a couple of pages ago. 1) and 2) I said, it's a little bit of wishful thinking, but there is also just a general tendency of townies to be more carefree and happy than mafia. This is just a fact, because playing town is much easier. Like one of the defining things of mafia is that you have to fake conflict, which almost forces you to be a little bit moody or aggressive or lazy. As town you can just be on your merry way and you will happily bump into conflict. There's no pressure to create reads. 3) I liked his JAT read, but I looved the fact that he also mentioned that my recent posting was indicative. It's the fast paced change of mind that makes me think it looks town. Read above about how mafia has to create conflict. It's hard work and it's mentally expensive to throw it out.
Okay to all other points, but "one of the defining things of mafia is that you have to fake conflict" is exactly what i consider VE did. Here:
On March 05 2024 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So VE posted a bunch of nothing... What are you expecting rayn? I think most everyone who's posted looks good, most everyone who hasn't looks bad, and you know who I'd kill as mayor, but not who I'd vote to lynch. I'm not going to try and push a lurker lynch because that's fucking stupid as fuck, so I'm going to wait and see what lynch targets emerge. Right now I'm one of them, and I know I'm town, so if it comes to it I'd probably lynch the other guy but otherwise, I'll vote who I think looks worse of the candidates D1. ERMAGERD AND YOU NEEDED ALL THAT SPELLED OUT RIGHT?! Rayn isn't usually this dense, must be mafia. SEE HAO FUCKING STUPID THAT SOUNDS RAYN!?!?!??
classic scum VE post imo, fake rage directed to something that in no way requires such reaction.
I mean i just pointed out what he was doing and he even agrees with it himself...
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Man this game is easy
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On March 06 2024 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Slam, iamp, TTS, Hapa
Man this game is easy
Don’t make me regret my mayor vote please.
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