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I think it's possible that marv, rayn and sandroba are mafia (varying degrees of possibility) and I don't care who masoned who.
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For the people watching. Mafia rayn tried this same shit last game with me:
On December 16 2023 22:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar can you make a post about why it's reasonable to assume i am mafia with (1) sandroba or (2) holyflare? I don’t make associative reads
There's a long argument about those things and he kept hammering the point that some people can't be mafia with others etc and I strongly disagree with that approach of thinking.
Can't believe it's happening again lol
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On March 07 2024 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:01 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:52 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.
Let's break this down. I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever. The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1 And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play. What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird. So did you or did you not read VE's fliter? Because you have basically claimed to follow the thread with ctrl+f palmar on people's filter? Did not. Opened it, skimmed a little, but no I didn't read his filter. Obviously that ctrl+f thing is a hyperbole with a tiny bit of truth in it  Well you scumread me, why does my read on VE that was well known hold no significance to you?
I've felt uneasy about your contributions but I don't think I've been actively calling you mafia, just put you in a pool of people likely to have some mafia in it.
Why should I care what you think about VE? The main reason I'm moving from "rayn is a little scummy" to "wait he's actually probably just mafia" is twofold:
1: caps locking demanding a case on Vivax (I am your #1 scumread afterall) despite my stance being abundantly clear and repeated a million fucking times because I am aroused by policy lynches.
2: refusing to acknowledge that you know, or should know, how I approach scumhunting and don't make these kinda reads.
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On March 07 2024 01:04 iamperfection wrote:
If you both think each other is mafia why is there all this mucking up the thread with each other.
Quit bitching, the upper class is having a meeting.
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On March 07 2024 01:08 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:07 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 01:01 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2024 00:52 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike your read "progression" on VE, and i think it makes you mafia.
Let's break this down. I initially made a tone read on VE and explained that it was mostly that, along with some theorycrafting, shitting on people using unccd as a thing. That latter part is NAI but whatever. The second time I talked about him I mentioned him looking a little worse, and then I made another post about him and Trfel needing to step up. I feel like this makes perfect sense given VE's lack of activity in the later parts of D1 And now during the night I said he's fallen off a cliff, which I kinda think is a fair characterization of his play. What's the problem with this? I admit, he's not been a primary investigative target of mine, but I don't think I've said anything weird. So did you or did you not read VE's fliter? Because you have basically claimed to follow the thread with ctrl+f palmar on people's filter? Did not. Opened it, skimmed a little, but no I didn't read his filter. Obviously that ctrl+f thing is a hyperbole with a tiny bit of truth in it Well you scumread me, why does my read on VE that was well known hold no significance to you? I've felt uneasy about your contributions but I don't think I've been actively calling you mafia, just put you in a pool of people likely to have some mafia in it. Why should I care what you think about VE? The main reason I'm moving from "rayn is a little scummy" to "wait he's actually probably just mafia" is twofold: 1: caps locking demanding a case on Vivax (I am your #1 scumread afterall) despite my stance being abundantly clear and repeated a million fucking times because I am aroused by policy lynches. 2: refusing to acknowledge that you know, or should know, how I approach scumhunting and don't make these kinda reads. You had him in your likely mafia pool what you talking abot
Yeah? But was I actively pushing to lynch/talking specifically about him much?
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On March 07 2024 01:10 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:09 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:04 iamperfection wrote:
If you both think each other is mafia why is there all this mucking up the thread with each other. Quit bitching, the upper class is having a meeting. Be more respectful toward your betters. Smh
Always respectful towards my betters, just haven't met any.
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On March 07 2024 01:12 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Like looking at this post you have trfel as a policy lynch but in the bottom it isn't.
yeah, makes perfect sense right?
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On March 07 2024 01:13 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:12 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:12 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Like looking at this post you have trfel as a policy lynch but in the bottom it isn't. yeah, makes perfect sense right? No lol. Looks like your just making up shit to me.
Did you notice that I also called Vivax town!
How cool is that?
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On March 07 2024 01:16 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:14 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:13 iamperfection wrote:On March 07 2024 01:12 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:12 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Like looking at this post you have trfel as a policy lynch but in the bottom it isn't. yeah, makes perfect sense right? No lol. Looks like your just making up shit to me. Did you notice that I also called Vivax town! How cool is that? Why didn't you have tts as policy btw
Because he and Trfel are different. I liked Trfel's posts, but just dropping the game and fucking off is a lynchable offense. I didn't like TTSs posts. Note that I haven't revisited TTS at all this night, so that list may be out of date, although I can't remember him posting.
A policy lynch is a lynch suggestion that is independent of perceived alignment, but rather based on a policy of expected town behavior. TTS could fit into both categories (policy lynch a lurker and lynching him for bad posting) but obviously when combined he goes into the scum pool.
This is why I'm joking around with you seeing a contradiction in saying Trfel is a policy lynch candidate (or really, a vig target candidate) and then saying I actually think his posts look townie. If you think that's a problem, then you just don't know what a policy lynch is.
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Why am I teaching these noobs mafia holy shit.
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Anyway I'm off.
Barring any development I'm pretty much 100% on rayn being mafia. So if I'm not back at deadline that's my preferred lynch for tomorrow.
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On March 07 2024 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's good i am alive tomorrow.
less worried about you than me buddy
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On March 07 2024 01:30 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 01:22 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:16 iamperfection wrote:On March 07 2024 01:14 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:13 iamperfection wrote:On March 07 2024 01:12 Palmar wrote:On March 07 2024 01:12 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. Like looking at this post you have trfel as a policy lynch but in the bottom it isn't. yeah, makes perfect sense right? No lol. Looks like your just making up shit to me. Did you notice that I also called Vivax town! How cool is that? Why didn't you have tts as policy btw Because he and Trfel are different. I liked Trfel's posts, but just dropping the game and fucking off is a lynchable offense. I didn't like TTSs posts. Note that I haven't revisited TTS at all this night, so that list may be out of date, although I can't remember him posting. A policy lynch is a lynch suggestion that is independent of perceived alignment, but rather based on a policy of expected town behavior. TTS could fit into both categories (policy lynch a lurker and lynching him for bad posting) but obviously when combined he goes into the scum pool. This is why I'm joking around with you seeing a contradiction in saying Trfel is a policy lynch candidate (or really, a vig target candidate) and then saying I actually think his posts look townie. If you think that's a problem, then you just don't know what a policy lynch is. Your list vote came after trfel votes for you. F rom your perspective shouldn't you have thought trfel was scum parking a vote on you. You even said as much when it happened then seemed to forget about that in that post.
I didn't think Trfel was scum so that lines up perfectly.
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Still think rayn was mafia
I guess the only logical play is to lynch the check.
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On March 07 2024 17:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 16:57 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
In all honesty, what do y’all think the math is?
Like actually do the math 4 or 5 mafia, so 15 or 16 townies. 4 townies flipped. So 8-9% you’re miller if town Am I over 90% sure you’re town? Framer equity? There’s 2 investigative roles at least so I have to assume that there’s a framer in the game
Tiny. 1/alivetownies * 1/aliveplayers
Cause framer requires the cop and framer to hit the same player.
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Like 90% mafia is basically the best shot we can get. I’m sorry Oats but not much to do about it. If you’re town just get to work and leave a strong legacy.
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On March 07 2024 17:06 marvellosity wrote:
I mean I’m gonna be happy if oats flips red but rn this whole game has been super frustrating. And I can’t even hide in the discords and bitch about stuff anymore.
I have a discord now.
Still not entirely sure what they’re for.
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On March 07 2024 17:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar/Marv what are y’all thoughts on dmb and mz of the stuff I’ve said?
Not caught up. Will read later.
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On March 07 2024 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
In a way I’m happy oats got read checked cause now I don’t have to lynch ve today.
Don’t think killing VE would’ve been all that hard. It’s a hobby of mine. Easy to convince me to take part.
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