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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:03 GMT
#1169
lol... marv?????? rly lol?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:08 GMT
#1175
On December 13 2023 00:04 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 13 2023 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol... marv?????? rly lol?

Eh?

The reasoning is absolute trash and exactly the opposite how Vivax operates as mafia....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:10 GMT
#1176
On December 12 2023 10:08 die_meatbaby wrote:
Tbh this last 3-4 posts from Vivax looks like a Townie who trys to stay alive, but just the rest from his Filter looks still worse then anyone else here.
Also We are 9 vs 3 One miss lynch+ the night kill will leave us 6 vs 3. I really hope we don't fuck up with the lynch.

Do you have a vigilante?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:21 GMT
#1183
On December 13 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 13 2023 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:04 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol... marv?????? rly lol?

Eh?

The reasoning is absolute trash and exactly the opposite how Vivax operates as mafia....

No, actually when I was mafia with him he did make a lot of nonsensical, silly posts. It was a good distraction technique. He even talked about it in the maf discord

Okay then we just have a quite different view of how Vivax plays (granted, i didn't figure him out last game and probably couldn't have), although i heard most of his play was to throw me off, dunno how accurate that is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:22 GMT
#1184
On December 13 2023 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 13 2023 00:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Marv, if I am reading what you say about Sandroba with the background of thinking Trfel is mafia and fearing that you could be mafia with him but carry such sway with me that I will TR you when mafia often because you say sensible shit as either alignment,

That maybe I weighted your takes on sandro... lightly?

Dismissed them with a mountain of trolls' salt?

If there is no possible world where thus happens, then I have an academy award winning song for you:


I mean, I do love this song :p

I do that in karaoke with a friend of mine
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:25 GMT
#1186
On December 13 2023 00:08 Holyflare wrote:
Sandro => Chez => Trfel => You => DP => DMB

Is marv town because sandroba is mafia, or?
What happens if sandroba magically flips town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:26 GMT
#1187
On December 13 2023 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
rayn why do you think I couldn't make that mistake as town that is skim reading the game?

because you voted. if you just called me mafia i would be okay with your explanation tbh.
but you voted for me to get lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:38 GMT
#1191
On December 13 2023 00:27 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 13 2023 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
rayn why do you think I couldn't make that mistake as town that is skim reading the game?

because you voted. if you just called me mafia i would be okay with your explanation tbh.
but you voted for me to get lynched.


Can you point me to a recent town game where I have not put a naked vote on someone and then followed it up in the way that I did here? Guarantee you can't.

I don't really care, because i know you lied (knowingly or not) about the premises of the vote. And i know that for sure. Even if you were just lazy and didn't think, it doesn't change much for me, because it still just shows you voted for someone without actually reading their posts properly, and the game was just like 5 pages long or something, and you are not stupid however busy you are.

But it's okay, noone is following my line of thought anyways. You cannot convince me i think this is scummy for you, but i am not gonna yell it over and over again. Idk what (else) you have done, what should make me think you're town.

But this discussion, especially with you is pointless. If you want to talk about something else, i am up to it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:39 GMT
#1192
On December 13 2023 00:35 Holyflare wrote:
No, marv is low investment but high co-opperativeness. I don't think he's pushing down routes that are inherently bad and, sure, given I think Sandro is mafia he's a bit up there because of it but it's the things that he wouldn't have to do as mafia that he's doing here that make him seem better to me. Trying to get you to explain your posts about me better, trying to get me to explain the posts about sandro more. Collaboration is the key to success.

It's not a strong point and perhaps marv might be in place of DMB but I haven't done much reading of DMB other than skimming the night. Definitely think he's above sandro, chez, trfel and probably you at the very least.

On page 36 you had marv on your mafia list for quite the opposite reasons. what has changed?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:40 GMT
#1193
If you are town whay does it make marv more town for him to trying to get town!rayn to explain his point on town!HF better?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:41 GMT
#1194
On December 13 2023 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are town whay does it make marv more town for him to trying to get town!rayn to explain his point on town!HF better?

same applies to if sandroba would also be town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:46 GMT
#1195
I ended up with list of:

Holyflare
Chezinu
sandroba
Trfel
Koshi

in no particular order atm. Everyone else i think is more or less town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:47 GMT
#1197
On December 11 2023 21:20 Holyflare wrote:
Slam
Palmar
Koshi
DarthPunk
die_meatbaby

Trfel
Raynpelikoneet




All of the above have some kind of reasonable series of posts that give them plausible deniability from being mafia, or at least that I think have posted things that I can see as even townie. Some of them even at multiple points (slam, DP etc).

It leaves me with:

marvellosity
Vivax
Chezinu
Sandroba

Sure, there's the chance that you're the town in this 4, and it's actually quite a high possibility(!) but I haven't seen the things comparatively that the other players above have given to cross you off the list. Which is crazy considering koshi and slam are in it.

Vivax's posts are boring, he also has no proper engagement. Sandro similarly, more concerned with trying to look ok than solve the game. Chezinu is whatever, religious nonsense.


On December 11 2023 21:14 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 11 2023 21:07 marvellosity wrote:
I mean if it’s Vivax and sandro and I’m gonna get lynched for the conclusions everyone else arrived at, so be it…

I’m low key more suspicious of HF for agreeing with DP than I am DP


I like your posts, more so because they defended me and seemed reasonable but it's undeniable that you seem low effort and it's also undeniable that you tried to prescribe intent to DP's case by saying he was lying about you, when it wasn't the case.

In a world where I'm starting to see more townie actiosn from people, you fall lower and lower down the totem pole because of it.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:49 GMT
#1198
Or are you saying marv's actions after the lynch are some super townie things that make him more town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:50 GMT
#1199
On December 13 2023 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I ended up with list of:

Holyflare
Chezinu
sandroba
Trfel
Koshi

in no particular order atm. Everyone else i think is more or less town.

tbh i don't think there is 3 mafia there. Maybe somehow if exactly Koshi and Chezinu are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:52 GMT
#1200
DP are you mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:58 GMT
#1204
On December 13 2023 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 13 2023 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or are you saying marv's actions after the lynch are some super townie things that make him more town?


Given the fact that I listed several things after that original post and that his collaboration has undeniably become larger over the course of the game AND he was trying to divert to someone I think is mafia, then yes, they are townie actions that lead to me town reading him more.

I get the sandroba thing, and i think it's reasonable.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 15:59 GMT
#1205
On December 13 2023 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 13 2023 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:04 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2023 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol... marv?????? rly lol?

Eh?

The reasoning is absolute trash and exactly the opposite how Vivax operates as mafia....

No, actually when I was mafia with him he did make a lot of nonsensical, silly posts. It was a good distraction technique. He even talked about it in the maf discord

Okay then we just have a quite different view of how Vivax plays (granted, i didn't figure him out last game and probably couldn't have), although i heard most of his play was to throw me off, dunno how accurate that is.

to be fair, rayn, I think the view you are talking about is how Vivax has always played mafia. But he changed it up for the better in our game(s) earlier in the year.

Maybe, but i also think i have figured out Vivax' alignment every game i have been town in come eod1, aside from last game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 16:00 GMT
#1206
so like yeah, i guess i can see how the case can be misguided instead of just terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 12 2023 16:02 GMT
#1207
i still don't know about Koshi thoguh, there was one post i thought was really townie, but aside from that it's just meehhhh, all game just mehhh..
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