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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 13:51 GMT
#1785
Here's the thing though. My brain 100% accepts the possibility that Trfel is mafia.

I just wanna kill sandroba.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 13:53 GMT
#1786
On December 14 2023 21:23 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, may I ask why my play is so boring to you?


Show me where you've actually had an impact on town sentiment.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:06 GMT
#1789
On December 14 2023 23:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 22:53 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 21:23 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, may I ask why my play is so boring to you?


Show me where you've actually had an impact on town sentiment.
That's not something that is in my control? I am truly confused, I can say what I say but it's up to others if they believe it or not?

This is not true.

A good townie who actually believes his ideas will push for his ideas to be recognized.

Aimless commentary that no one listens to is what mafia really, really wants.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:27 GMT
#1798
I love that sandroba actually believed me calling him towny in the thing :D
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:29 GMT
#1800
I absolutely do not want to put in the work....
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:31 GMT
#1802
pretty scummy of rayn to not have a vote down.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:32 GMT
#1803
On December 14 2023 23:30 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:25 sandroba wrote:
Can you rephrase the question, don't know what exactly you are asking based on the post you are quoting
Your initial townread of Palmar was due to thinking Vivax was mafia, correct? Since Palmar was the main person pushing Vivax, it makes sense that if Vivax is mafia, Palmar is town.

I am wondering why you kept thinking Palmar is town after Vivax flipped town? I know you recently flipped to scumread him but there was quite a delay between those events.

This is not how the game works.

If sandroba believed I was town for pushing Vivax because he agreed, why would me being wrong change his mind? By that logic he should scumread himself for also having been wrong.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:37 GMT
#1808
yeah but all the people who like association reads are terrible at mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:40 GMT
#1812
On December 14 2023 23:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:33 sandroba wrote:
On December 14 2023 23:30 Trfel wrote:
On December 14 2023 23:25 sandroba wrote:
Can you rephrase the question, don't know what exactly you are asking based on the post you are quoting
Your initial townread of Palmar was due to thinking Vivax was mafia, correct? Since Palmar was the main person pushing Vivax, it makes sense that if Vivax is mafia, Palmar is town.

I am wondering why you kept thinking Palmar is town after Vivax flipped town? I know you recently flipped to scumread him but there was quite a delay between those events.

He could have been just wrong at that point, normally the main proponent of a lynch is town, but at that point was thinking I wouldn't put beyond mafia Palmar doing that. After the mason thing, he is just mafia.

All I can say is, if we flip you and I’m wrong and you’re town, I won’t ignore what you’ve said about Palmar.

Because I am petrified I am just being his cheerleader and I’m leading town into oblivion. But I just don’t think so.


See, the warning signs. I hate them.

But I also can't deal with it now so I'm going to continue ignoring.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:42 GMT
#1816
On December 14 2023 23:37 sandroba wrote:
I don't think I'll be able to convince anyone Palmar is mafia today due to how much people already suspect me. I'd be down to lynch DMB/Chezinu.
To anyone who is town: Please let's rally and find a good lynch today. Don't let the mafia steamroll this lynch on me and be in the same spot tomorrow with DMB and Chezinu alive, being convinced by Palmar and his cheerleader they were just wrong and now we must lynch Trfel or w/e.

The list on you is me, Koshi, Marv and Holyflare.

You say "don't let the mafia steamroll this lynch on me".

Are these mafia-steamrollers in the room with us right now?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:44 GMT
#1820
On December 14 2023 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
If you don’t think I’m right to be nervous, you’re insane.

Point is we both are.

If Sandroba somehow flips green that means both our top 2 scum reads on day 1 were wrong. If we are somehow both town in that situation we almost deserve to lose.

And I can't really complain too much because I will have been wrong twice... just as much as you.

In a game where tomorrow is lylo, this is a very, very scary proposition. Today's lynch may decide the game. Which is why I'm trying to figure out if there is a chance yesterday was TvT.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:45 GMT
#1822
Also, you can not read anything into the mason thing Sandroba. I was obviously not going to talk seriously to my top scum read in that. We can just talk serious shit here.

Still don't really understand why you wanted me to mason you, if I'm going to be convinced by you as town it's going to be here, not in a private topic.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:47 GMT
#1824
On December 14 2023 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:44 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
If you don’t think I’m right to be nervous, you’re insane.

Point is we both are.

If Sandroba somehow flips green that means both our top 2 scum reads on day 1 were wrong. If we are somehow both town in that situation we almost deserve to lose.

And I can't really complain too much because I will have been wrong twice... just as much as you.

In a game where tomorrow is lylo, this is a very, very scary proposition. Today's lynch may decide the game. Which is why I'm trying to figure out if there is a chance yesterday was TvT.

Exactly!

So that makes you nervous of me. Like im nervous of you.

And, if we’re both town, that’s natural. It shouldn’t be sending warning signs to you because you have exactly the same outlook….


warning signs/nervousness

What I mean by that in general I'm happy to consider you lean town. What I'm unhappy about is that occasionally I fall over a post that I stop and think "hey that looks.... weird?"

But I'm 100% in agreement that for today the only play is to consider each other confirmed town to reduce the work that needs to be done.

In fact, I am going to start handing out incredibly cheap town reads just to make life easier.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:49 GMT
#1825
On December 14 2023 23:43 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:42 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 23:37 sandroba wrote:
I don't think I'll be able to convince anyone Palmar is mafia today due to how much people already suspect me. I'd be down to lynch DMB/Chezinu.
To anyone who is town: Please let's rally and find a good lynch today. Don't let the mafia steamroll this lynch on me and be in the same spot tomorrow with DMB and Chezinu alive, being convinced by Palmar and his cheerleader they were just wrong and now we must lynch Trfel or w/e.

The list on you is me, Koshi, Marv and Holyflare.

You say "don't let the mafia steamroll this lynch on me".

Are these mafia-steamrollers in the room with us right now?

You and marv, if you are an annoying lazy bum who is losing this game for town by yourself, Marv and Koshi


I'm not at fault here. The primary goal of every townie is to not get lynched. If all townies follow that advice, town only lynches mafia.

Job 1: don't be lynched
Job 2: help find mafia
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:51 GMT
#1827
On December 14 2023 23:50 sandroba wrote:
Rest of town: Don't let both these clowns decide anything. They are either Mafia or terrible. I want them to look at my filter and freaking justify this retarded lynch. It will be super easy to just say "well shucks we were wrong again guys" if they are not forced to produce bullshit reasons for voting for me.

Just don't get lynched bro
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:54 GMT
#1835
I often put effort into day 1 as mafia.

What I don't do is agonize over the lynch on day 2 when I'm not even on the menu.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:55 GMT
#1836
Why do you think I'm mafia slam. explain please.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:56 GMT
#1839
lol I just went back to the filter thing and Chez's filter was still an unclicked link. I really, really don't bother with troll players.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 14:59 GMT
#1843
Chez seems to think Trfel is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 15:15 GMT
#1866
On December 15 2023 00:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 20:04 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

This is actually correct.

If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks.

Why wait?

Sandroba, or any readable player, gives far more information. Everybody voting chez would be doing it for the same reason.
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