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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 14:53 GMT
#1830
On December 14 2023 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:50 sandroba wrote:
Rest of town: Don't let both these clowns decide anything. They are either Mafia or terrible. I want them to look at my filter and freaking justify this retarded lynch. It will be super easy to just say "well shucks we were wrong again guys" if they are not forced to produce bullshit reasons for voting for me.

I have lots of reasons. And they’re in the thread. It’s disingenuous to say otherwise

Go through my damn filter and tell me why.
Same for you Palmar.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 14:59 GMT
#1844
On December 14 2023 23:54 Holyflare wrote:
Did you know that you palmar haters could have the leading wagon now but instead you just whine about it and don't actually campaign properly for the wagons you want?

I want to actually kill Chezinu or DMB. If I'm wrong about who of Palmar/Marv is mafia I probably lose the game for town if we miss.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:11 GMT
#1860
Good post slam found:
On December 14 2023 19:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 11:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:35 Palmar wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:30 Palmar wrote:
Jesus it’s so bad. Pointless commentary, terrible questions. Lots of nothing and very boring to boot. I didn’t laugh once.

We found our first mafia boys. Get in while it’s still cool


You are not wrong, but I think it's not outside of the scope of his town play.


I’m never wrong. Let’s do the vote thing.


Just to make this clear my decision to vote for Vivax is based on my own analysis and not because your ego convinced me to vote who ever you think is scum. And yes your filter looks good but you still not town for me and I will read and analysis every post you will make until you lose a bit of this self believing god player stuff here.


I genuinely think this begrudging acceptance of the Vivax lynch is towny. It's hard for me to think about scum doing this, unless I just assume DMB is completely new and does the most basic of scum trappings.

Same with this:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2023 11:39 die_meatbaby wrote:
Fuck i don´t have a good feeling on lynch V right now. This looks so Townie just trying to not get killed. Fells like impulsive posts from emotions to keep playing.



Even if you think this is a TMI post, this followup here:
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On December 12 2023 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
this is fucking town


Makes it much more believable that there is genuine frustration here at work.

Overall I believe dmb when he's complaining about stuff like me being me. I do wish we had more contributions to go on, but to me the option of lynching DMB today, and even tomorrow, is probably not on the table.


These posts of reads by DMB which Palmar is quoting as town are the easiest shit to make as scum, since she knows Vivax is town. There is no mafia in danger so DMB has no reason to push mafia agenda at EOD. If she is Mafia she is trying to appear townie before the flip, why would this ever be AI towards town. At best you can argue it's NAI.

DMB has plenty of scummy posts where she provides no real reads or the direction she wants to go, always leaving the decision for later and later.

Palmar is hyper-focused on some NAI shit of DMB while ignoring all scummy posts she has made.

Palmar's last sentence "the option of lynching DMB today, and even tomorrow, is probably not on the table" should really be impossible for town Palmar to make.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:12 GMT
#1863
Chez is probably mafia, my 2 top towns are on Chez. I'm assuming HF who is 95% sure about Chez will join as well
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:16 GMT
#1868
On December 15 2023 00:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 20:04 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

This is actually correct.

If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks.

Why wait?

Palmar is pushing mafia agenda, if you think you have a super good chance of hitting mafia lynching a troll you go for it. Mafia will subtly try to push the lynch on someone else and argue it's a random guess. You can get lots of information from that.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:16 GMT
#1870
On December 15 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
94 pages of game and our best d2 lynch is Chez?

I just don’t buy it.

See case in point.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:20 GMT
#1874
On December 15 2023 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 14 2023 20:04 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

This is actually correct.

If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks.

Why wait?

Sandroba, or any readable player, gives far more information. Everybody voting chez would be doing it for the same reason.

Not true, I'm actually saying that Chezinu is not doing his town meta, being less fun in the thread, breaking off character with my slight pressure which all make it way more likely he is Mafia.
Chezinu is not totally unreadable. He does more when town and less when mafia. He is more serious when mafia, and more engaging when town.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:21 GMT
#1875
On December 15 2023 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:16 sandroba wrote:
On December 15 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
94 pages of game and our best d2 lynch is Chez?

I just don’t buy it.

See case in point.

What’s the ironclad case on Chez then?

Case in point, mafia trying to dismiss Chezinu's lynch as a cop out.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:26 GMT
#1879
Even if we did assume Chezinu was a random guess (which he isn't, way more likely he is mafia here, but I digress) lynching him only at LYLO is simply the worst play possible.

We have to assume we will be able to make better and better decisions on who is mafia with more days. Thus if we resign to killing Chezinu on MYLO we are cutting town short of a full day of posts by all other players. Much more optimal to lynch the random guess which chances will not improve in the passing days early on and have more time to analyze the players whose chances of correctly guessing alignment will improve.

All of this to say even if you think Chezinu is a random chance it's optimal to lynch him now.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:30 GMT
#1881
On December 15 2023 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
the fact this sandro lynch is so fucking difficult is telling me this is the right lynch

Who is making it difficult? Who is the mafia defending me?

The fact is I've never have fought against my lynch like this as mafia. Did I come back to the game and then turn into a super good liar and high effort mafia player or just a worse town player?

sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:31 GMT
#1882
On December 15 2023 00:27 marvellosity wrote:
I actually think Chez is probably mafia and what’s happening here is that mafia are angling to sacrifice Chez and discredit the “town leaders” by flipping him

How likely do you think Chez is mafia and how likely do you think I'm mafia?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:33 GMT
#1885
Trfel and Slam. Slam who you have town read the whole game. Trfel, which you called me mafia for thinking he is mafia.

Hmmmmmm, okay dude
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:34 GMT
#1886
On December 15 2023 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:30 sandroba wrote:
On December 15 2023 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
the fact this sandro lynch is so fucking difficult is telling me this is the right lynch

Who is making it difficult? Who is the mafia defending me?

The fact is I've never have fought against my lynch like this as mafia. Did I come back to the game and then turn into a super good liar and high effort mafia player or just a worse town player?


All the votes that aren’t on you is who is making it difficult

Townies look at this post! This is 100% motivated reasoning.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:49 GMT
#1903
Slam is the hero we deserve. The EOD point on Chezinu is a new angle which I haven't considered which makes a ton of sense as well
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:51 GMT
#1908
Slam you are the only one not sucking, if somehow you are mafia I'm in your pocket forever I'll give you the win
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:52 GMT
#1910
On December 15 2023 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:21 sandroba wrote:
On December 15 2023 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
On December 15 2023 00:16 sandroba wrote:
On December 15 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
94 pages of game and our best d2 lynch is Chez?

I just don’t buy it.

See case in point.

What’s the ironclad case on Chez then?

Case in point, mafia trying to dismiss Chezinu's lynch as a cop out.

Marv is not likely mafia here.

Koshi is.

There is a big difference

If i allow myself to think Marv is absolutely atrocious I can see your point.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:58 GMT
#1913
Look I'm just saying right now I won't be here between 6 and 10pm EST (deadline). No getting cold feet about someone squirming and deciding to do a jubjub swap at the last minute because I'm not here to defend myself
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 16:13 GMT
#1920
Koshi, what about your DMB read, why did you just drop it?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 16:26 GMT
#1925
Btw palmar is not asking me shit today in the mason chat besides telling me 2 times to claim blue. He isn't making any effort to figure out my alignment.
For the amount of sway he could have in the thread if he wished to, he is taking very little advantage of this opportunity to consolidate a read on me and push town one direction or the other.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 19:08 GMT
#1971
Sorry to hear that marv, is everything okay? Doors were smashed in, does that mean someone broke into your building / house?
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