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On December 14 2023 02:48 Trfel wrote: I'm just going to vote for Chezinu, I think he is just mafia. We had a game in the past where we were town together and talked quite a bit, and a game in the past where we were scum together, in fact I think maybe two games, and his effort and engagement with the game feel very scummy. He's capable of much more as town, we all know this. You shouldn't have to beg him to interact with the game. He's even made plenty of posts, the time is there, the desire to do anything about solving the game is not. ##vote Chezinu The house of brown has found it time to end your mafia-ness. Scummy | ||
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On December 14 2023 04:36 Holyflare wrote: 0 words about me I mean you are pretty basic and forgettable | ||
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I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1. Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore. DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town. Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait. Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now. Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town. | ||
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For example, to day I initiated a mason thing with Sandro. Yesterday, slam initiated a mason thing with me. | ||
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On December 14 2023 19:08 marvellosity wrote: Is rayn mafia and that’s why the game makes no sense to me? This is a possibility. He's not frantically tunneling anything. That's pretty scummy. | ||
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On December 14 2023 17:33 marvellosity wrote: I feel like I suddenly have practically no townreads which is really awkward Gonna help me out, Palmar? Or am I wrong here too? Where’s rayn? DP was the towniest DMB is probably townread Slam is probably townread Koshi is annoying but probably townread You and I kinda need to work under the assumption we're town. The game is a little fucked if there's 2 mafia in the above list. Chez/HF/Trfel/Sandro/rayn is the list that needs to be lynched into The game is now at 3 mafia vs 7 townies, due to not having 13 players we may be in lylo tomorrow if things go badly, which is why it's really important to do a disciplined lynch today that if wrong at least gives a bunch of information. | ||
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On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote: Palmar, can you look at rayn please? Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense. And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be. If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town? Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird. See this is what I mean by warning signs. While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too. I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today. I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring. | ||
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I just do. I feel like town HF would be absolutely jackhammering me right now. | ||
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On December 14 2023 19:28 marvellosity wrote: Rayn came in and vote switched to sand d1 That really doesn't matter in my mind. Mafia does weird shit all the time. | ||
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On December 11 2023 11:26 die_meatbaby wrote: Just to make this clear my decision to vote for Vivax is based on my own analysis and not because your ego convinced me to vote who ever you think is scum. And yes your filter looks good but you still not town for me and I will read and analysis every post you will make until you lose a bit of this self believing god player stuff here. I genuinely think this begrudging acceptance of the Vivax lynch is towny. It's hard for me to think about scum doing this, unless I just assume DMB is completely new and does the most basic of scum trappings. Same with this: On December 12 2023 11:39 die_meatbaby wrote: Fuck i don´t have a good feeling on lynch V right now. This looks so Townie just trying to not get killed. Fells like impulsive posts from emotions to keep playing. Even if you think this is a TMI post, this followup here: On December 12 2023 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote: this is fucking town Makes it much more believable that there is genuine frustration here at work. Overall I believe dmb when he's complaining about stuff like me being me. I do wish we had more contributions to go on, but to me the option of lynching DMB today, and even tomorrow, is probably not on the table. | ||
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On December 14 2023 19:30 Holyflare wrote: Did sandro not saying anything useful in your mason chat despite asking for it? Well I do admit to not being the easiest person to talk to. He almost exclusively wanted to talk about Trfel being mafia. I can summarize the chat quickly if you like. | ||
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Sandroba asks me about my thoughts and I claim to be happy with the game state. Sandroba wants to know why because he thinks town is fucked if Trfel is mafia. I claim he isn't so Sandroba asks me if I'm mafia which I deny. I claim to be happy because Sandroba is being lynched. He is clearly a little annoyed here and asks me to assume he's town and give him mafia team. I dump some combo of HF/Chez/marv/trfel/koshi which is what I thought at the time. I talk about how I generally miss one mafia completely after he points out I just said Trfel is town. Sandroba says he's getting "mafia tells" from chez. I say he's a troll and lynching him is pointless at the moment. Sandroba says he's going with Trfel and I double down on "Trfel is town". I say it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town and ask sandroba for reasons trfel is mafia. He says he'll summarize in the thread and I complain about having to read. I suggest sandroba claims a blue role, but he says he doesn't know I'm town. Asks me why I want to know. I say it's because I need information to decide on the night kill. Sandroba keeps talking about Trfel, tells me to read DP's post. I complain about Trfel being boring to read and ask him to talk about his potential blue claim. He says I'm not giving him town vibes. I disagree. I tell him to assume I'm mafia and ask him for strategy advice for mafia. Ask him who I should misynch excluding Trfel claiming that would be counterproductive. He points out that my line of "note, I'm not claiming mafia, this is all hypothetical" is scummy. I disagree and say it's towny. I claim sandroba is null to me, not scum. He says I better get reading then, I disagree and say I'm happy with the game state. He asks me to read Trfel again and I say that would be counterproductive. He complains about my refusal to talk about Trfel. Sandroba complains again that I should engage with him. I say I'm just taking Trfel off the table and say I'm willing to talk about his blue claims, mafia strategy, night kills, other players. I offer him to talk about how town I am as well. He reiterates that my read on Trfel would help him form an opinion on me and calls my suggests my topics are troll topics (somewhat fair...) I start calling Trfel scummy based on nothing but the 4 page filter. But immediately switch to talking about the DP night kill. He says I'm wrong on everything. I start saying mafia would want to NK me because leadership, and start listing off why players wouldn't be shot. He says mafia wants me alive cause all my reads suck. He complains about me calling him scum early, I praise my point about slam smiley face analysis. He asks me to stop trolling, we go back to the DP NK conversation where he claims I'm alive because I was wrong, and I claim I'm alive because mafia was afraid I would be protected. Some more points by me about how everyone liked DP and he disaagrees. Sandro talks about Trfel again, says he's gonna post in the thread and says he wants me to comment on it. I say I have an agenda to push in the thread so I probably won't and then I had to leave. | ||
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On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote: I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it. Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game. This is actually correct. If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks. | ||
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a) he's too reasonable and doesn't get annoyed enough at my trolling and mafia claiming. I feel like a townie would just have told me to shut up and stop being an idiot. b) his interests are way too focused on Trfel and Trfel only. I never felt like he randomly wanted to talk about other shit . I still think sandro may be based on our interactions in that chat. | ||
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