• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:51
CET 02:51
KST 10:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Do you consider PvZ imbalanced? CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2330 users

Winter Warfare Mafia - Page 6

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 20 Next All
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 13 2023 15:30 GMT
#1599
Trfel word count analysis town read is failing, dude has a shorter filter than me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 13 2023 17:53 GMT
#1642
On December 14 2023 02:48 Trfel wrote:
I'm just going to vote for Chezinu, I think he is just mafia. We had a game in the past where we were town together and talked quite a bit, and a game in the past where we were scum together, in fact I think maybe two games, and his effort and engagement with the game feel very scummy. He's capable of much more as town, we all know this. You shouldn't have to beg him to interact with the game. He's even made plenty of posts, the time is there, the desire to do anything about solving the game is not.

##vote Chezinu

The house of brown has found it time to end your mafia-ness.

Scummy
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 13 2023 20:53 GMT
#1687
On December 14 2023 04:36 Holyflare wrote:
0 words about me

I mean you are pretty basic and forgettable
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:14 GMT
#1721
I think we lynch Sandroba, nothing he said in the chat with me has changed my mind all that much.

I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1.

Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore.

DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town.

Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait.

Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now.

Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:15 GMT
#1723
Koshi the mason thing is only randomed who gets to initiate.

For example, to day I initiated a mason thing with Sandro.

Yesterday, slam initiated a mason thing with me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:16 GMT
#1724
On December 14 2023 19:08 marvellosity wrote:
Is rayn mafia and that’s why the game makes no sense to me?

This is a possibility.

He's not frantically tunneling anything. That's pretty scummy.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:19 GMT
#1726
On December 14 2023 17:33 marvellosity wrote:
I feel like I suddenly have practically no townreads which is really awkward

Gonna help me out, Palmar? Or am I wrong here too?

Where’s rayn?


DP was the towniest

DMB is probably townread
Slam is probably townread
Koshi is annoying but probably townread
You and I kinda need to work under the assumption we're town.

The game is a little fucked if there's 2 mafia in the above list.

Chez/HF/Trfel/Sandro/rayn is the list that needs to be lynched into

The game is now at 3 mafia vs 7 townies, due to not having 13 players we may be in lylo tomorrow if things go badly, which is why it's really important to do a disciplined lynch today that if wrong at least gives a bunch of information.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:25 GMT
#1730
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1732
Also mafia is annoyingly disciplined.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1737
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.


See this is what I mean by warning signs.

While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too.

I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today.

I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1740
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

Why?

I just do.

I feel like town HF would be absolutely jackhammering me right now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:29 GMT
#1742
On December 14 2023 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:28 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.


See this is what I mean by warning signs.

While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too.

I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today.

I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring.

Rayn came in and vote switched to sand d1


That really doesn't matter in my mind. Mafia does weird shit all the time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:43 GMT
#1759
On December 11 2023 11:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 10:35 Palmar wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:30 Palmar wrote:
Jesus it’s so bad. Pointless commentary, terrible questions. Lots of nothing and very boring to boot. I didn’t laugh once.

We found our first mafia boys. Get in while it’s still cool


You are not wrong, but I think it's not outside of the scope of his town play.


I’m never wrong. Let’s do the vote thing.


Just to make this clear my decision to vote for Vivax is based on my own analysis and not because your ego convinced me to vote who ever you think is scum. And yes your filter looks good but you still not town for me and I will read and analysis every post you will make until you lose a bit of this self believing god player stuff here.


I genuinely think this begrudging acceptance of the Vivax lynch is towny. It's hard for me to think about scum doing this, unless I just assume DMB is completely new and does the most basic of scum trappings.

Same with this:

On December 12 2023 11:39 die_meatbaby wrote:
Fuck i don´t have a good feeling on lynch V right now. This looks so Townie just trying to not get killed. Fells like impulsive posts from emotions to keep playing.



Even if you think this is a TMI post, this followup here:
On December 12 2023 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
this is fucking town


Makes it much more believable that there is genuine frustration here at work.

Overall I believe dmb when he's complaining about stuff like me being me. I do wish we had more contributions to go on, but to me the option of lynching DMB today, and even tomorrow, is probably not on the table.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:44 GMT
#1760
On December 14 2023 19:30 Holyflare wrote:
Did sandro not saying anything useful in your mason chat despite asking for it?

Well I do admit to not being the easiest person to talk to.

He almost exclusively wanted to talk about Trfel being mafia. I can summarize the chat quickly if you like.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 11:02 GMT
#1767
Ok chat is maybe 200 lines long or so:

Sandroba asks me about my thoughts and I claim to be happy with the game state.

Sandroba wants to know why because he thinks town is fucked if Trfel is mafia. I claim he isn't so Sandroba asks me if I'm mafia which I deny.

I claim to be happy because Sandroba is being lynched.

He is clearly a little annoyed here and asks me to assume he's town and give him mafia team. I dump some combo of

HF/Chez/marv/trfel/koshi which is what I thought at the time.

I talk about how I generally miss one mafia completely after he points out I just said Trfel is town.

Sandroba says he's getting "mafia tells" from chez. I say he's a troll and lynching him is pointless at the moment. Sandroba says he's going with Trfel and I double down on "Trfel is town".

I say it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town and ask sandroba for reasons trfel is mafia. He says he'll summarize in the thread and I complain about having to read.

I suggest sandroba claims a blue role, but he says he doesn't know I'm town. Asks me why I want to know. I say it's because I need information to decide on the night kill. Sandroba keeps talking about Trfel, tells me to read DP's post.

I complain about Trfel being boring to read and ask him to talk about his potential blue claim.

He says I'm not giving him town vibes. I disagree.

I tell him to assume I'm mafia and ask him for strategy advice for mafia. Ask him who I should misynch excluding Trfel claiming that would be counterproductive.

He points out that my line of "note, I'm not claiming mafia, this is all hypothetical" is scummy. I disagree and say it's towny.

I claim sandroba is null to me, not scum. He says I better get reading then, I disagree and say I'm happy with the game state. He asks me to read Trfel again and I say that would be counterproductive. He complains about my refusal to talk about Trfel.

Sandroba complains again that I should engage with him. I say I'm just taking Trfel off the table and say I'm willing to talk about his blue claims, mafia strategy, night kills, other players. I offer him to talk about how town I am as well. He reiterates that my read on Trfel would help him form an opinion on me and calls my suggests my topics are troll topics (somewhat fair...)

I start calling Trfel scummy based on nothing but the 4 page filter. But immediately switch to talking about the DP night kill.

He says I'm wrong on everything. I start saying mafia would want to NK me because leadership, and start listing off why players wouldn't be shot. He says mafia wants me alive cause all my reads suck.

He complains about me calling him scum early, I praise my point about slam smiley face analysis.

He asks me to stop trolling, we go back to the DP NK conversation where he claims I'm alive because I was wrong, and I claim I'm alive because mafia was afraid I would be protected. Some more points by me about how everyone liked DP and he disaagrees.

Sandro talks about Trfel again, says he's gonna post in the thread and says he wants me to comment on it. I say I have an agenda to push in the thread so I probably won't and then I had to leave.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 11:04 GMT
#1768
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

This is actually correct.

If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 11:07 GMT
#1770
Well again, in sandro's slight defense I pretty much claimed mafia a few times in that chat.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 11:08 GMT
#1771
I am NOT easy to deal with in chats like these.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 11:09 GMT
#1772
But what I come away with is:

a) he's too reasonable and doesn't get annoyed enough at my trolling and mafia claiming. I feel like a townie would just have told me to shut up and stop being an idiot.

b) his interests are way too focused on Trfel and Trfel only. I never felt like he randomly wanted to talk about other shit .

I still think sandro may be based on our interactions in that chat.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 13:51 GMT
#1784
lol
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings125
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 219
SteadfastSC 141
Nathanias 75
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1636
ggaemo 171
-ZergGirl 46
NaDa 16
Dota 2
monkeys_forever395
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 596
Reynor99
Counter-Strike
fl0m2147
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor210
Other Games
summit1g9741
C9.Mang0393
Trikslyr92
Mew2King63
ViBE41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1285
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH170
• Hupsaiya 65
• davetesta14
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV365
League of Legends
• Doublelift4964
• Scarra1076
• Lourlo170
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
7h 9m
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 9m
Replay Cast
22h 9m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.