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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 09:00 GMT
#677
Oops. Post was still showing as written but not sent so I pressed post again.

Also fair warning, I have a chess match this evening so activity will be super patchy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 09:00 GMT
#678
On December 11 2023 17:56 Palmar wrote:
Well get on with it.

No 😘
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 09:38 GMT
#680
On December 11 2023 18:38 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv why are you not obv town right now?

How long is a piece of string?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 09:43 GMT
#682
Actually I just happened to press refresh after my meeting, but okay.

Yawn to the rest, there is nothing wrong with my filter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:13 GMT
#686
I’m looking forward to this!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:16 GMT
#688
Skimmed the whole thing. Only thing I want to say is re: Vivax.

The 6th post of my filter (p1 somewhere anyway) is asking Trfel about Vivax, and not far down the 2nd page I am calling Vivax out. This was yesterday.

Let’s not pretend I am suddenly randomly thinking Vivax is mafia out of nowhere, eh?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:16 GMT
#689
On December 11 2023 20:15 Koshi wrote:
You are so lucky
I wanted to be lynched.

Yes but that’s stupid as either alignment, so stop it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:21 GMT
#692
I think it’s a terrible case and parts of it make me suspicious - for example if I have a chess match, I will say so as either alignment, I have never lied about this sort of thing as either alignment. DP should know that.

I can’t really be arsed to try to attack DP for this (or other dumb bits) though as I’ll just get accused of omgus. You guys can draw your own conclusions.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:21 GMT
#693
On December 11 2023 20:20 Palmar wrote:
🤣 I’m now a member of the DP fan club

Thought you might be
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:23 GMT
#696
On December 11 2023 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
I think it’s a terrible case and parts of it make me suspicious - for example if I have a chess match, I will say so as either alignment, I have never lied about this sort of thing as either alignment. DP should know that.

I can’t really be arsed to try to attack DP for this (or other dumb bits) though as I’ll just get accused of omgus. You guys can draw your own conclusions.


He did say you wouldn't lie about it, just that you're much more likely to bring that up as mafia than town.

Same difference. I don’t happen to have more chess matches as mafia. I will mention something that takes me away from the game at end of day cycle 100% of the time as either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:24 GMT
#698
On December 11 2023 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
I think it’s a terrible case and parts of it make me suspicious - for example if I have a chess match, I will say so as either alignment, I have never lied about this sort of thing as either alignment. DP should know that.

I can’t really be arsed to try to attack DP for this (or other dumb bits) though as I’ll just get accused of omgus. You guys can draw your own conclusions.

Low energy response

What would you say?

I am suspicious of sandro and Vivax, the rest is just noise
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 11:26 GMT
#699
On December 11 2023 20:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 20:16 marvellosity wrote:
Skimmed the whole thing. Only thing I want to say is re: Vivax.

The 6th post of my filter (p1 somewhere anyway) is asking Trfel about Vivax, and not far down the 2nd page I am calling Vivax out. This was yesterday.

Let’s not pretend I am suddenly randomly thinking Vivax is mafia out of nowhere, eh?


Except you are because you wanted to lynch Sandro, then did nothing to progress that, and then jumped on the band wagon.

This is distinct from for example, endures 1 where you were town, and you kept reminding and brining people back to your lynch of choice: MZ.

Actually much more similar to day 2 where I was happy with a VE Lynch and just hopped on that bandwagon. Sometimes it’s just a normal thing to do.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 12:07 GMT
#712
I mean if it’s Vivax and sandro and I’m gonna get lynched for the conclusions everyone else arrived at, so be it…

I’m low key more suspicious of HF for agreeing with DP than I am DP
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 12:09 GMT
#715
On December 11 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
If you can't be bothered reading the big post (you really fucking should)

This is a snapshot. a pretty egregious case of incongruence:

Rayn asks for an opinion on holyflare. Marv is.... Non-commital.

Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna take a little break. My feet have been cold for like 3 days because of shitty socks, and i just want to go to sauna now that i can. Will be back in an hour.

If anyone would like to have an opinion on Holyflare, and especially on what i said on him, i would appreciate.


Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 06:49 marvellosity wrote:

I admit I can’t make much of any of it…


Two unrelated posts later.

Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:35 Trfel wrote:
I think at this point I'd be okay with lynching Koshi (if he is going to play like this), and potentially okay with lynching DarthPunk. Sandroba's recent set of posts were more interesting to me, I didn't necessarily agree with everything he was saying but it helps me to put together his mindset/approach. Holyflare's point that he's focusing on defending himself from presumed incorrect accusations instead of actually finding mafia or being productive is strong, now that he's actually shared suspicions I look forward to him coming back tomorrow. Vivax I could definitely see being mafia but I don't think I want to lynch him as much as Koshi or DarthPunk at this point.

Holyflare is not townie in any way, in any point of his game. He might be misguided as fuck but never ever has he done anything townie.

Not sure I agree, I can follow his thoughts




Marv thinks holyflare is town, or at least not mafia because he can follow his thoughts. Why does Marv not say that in the first place? Why does he say nothing at all when it is clear he in fact has something to say?

between those posts, holyflare had not posted a thing.

what it means, DP, is that I could not make much of the shit rayn was throwing at HF.

Following up with leaning town on Hf is entirely consistent with this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 12:15 GMT
#718
On December 11 2023 21:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 21:07 marvellosity wrote:
I mean if it’s Vivax and sandro and I’m gonna get lynched for the conclusions everyone else arrived at, so be it…

I’m low key more suspicious of HF for agreeing with DP than I am DP


I like your posts, more so because they defended me and seemed reasonable but it's undeniable that you seem low effort and it's also undeniable that you tried to prescribe intent to DP's case by saying he was lying about you, when it wasn't the case.

In a world where I'm starting to see more townie actiosn from people, you fall lower and lower down the totem pole because of it.

Back at you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 13:03 GMT
#732
By the way Palmar, or anyone who cares to read. The reason for my responses to DP being low energy is that basically every game we played this year DP has made a mega case on me pointing out inconsistencies and incongruities (that aren’t true) and twisting my entire filter into a scummy narrative.

The thing is, if he does this to me every time we play, sometimes I’m town, sometimes I’m mafia, but DP is only right sometimes because I am sometimes mafia. A broken clock is right twice a day.

It is tiring hearing the same case over and over, as nothing in it ever makes me mafia, he has no idea how to read me, he just makes the same case every game. It’s tedious that that becomes the focal point of my attention, rather than happily bumbling along with my suspicions on sandro and Vivax.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 13:04 GMT
#734
On December 11 2023 22:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 21:38 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
If you can't be bothered reading the big post (you really fucking should)

This is a snapshot. a pretty egregious case of incongruence:

Rayn asks for an opinion on holyflare. Marv is.... Non-commital.

On December 11 2023 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna take a little break. My feet have been cold for like 3 days because of shitty socks, and i just want to go to sauna now that i can. Will be back in an hour.

If anyone would like to have an opinion on Holyflare, and especially on what i said on him, i would appreciate.


On December 11 2023 06:49 marvellosity wrote:

I admit I can’t make much of any of it…


Two unrelated posts later.

On December 11 2023 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 06:35 Trfel wrote:
I think at this point I'd be okay with lynching Koshi (if he is going to play like this), and potentially okay with lynching DarthPunk. Sandroba's recent set of posts were more interesting to me, I didn't necessarily agree with everything he was saying but it helps me to put together his mindset/approach. Holyflare's point that he's focusing on defending himself from presumed incorrect accusations instead of actually finding mafia or being productive is strong, now that he's actually shared suspicions I look forward to him coming back tomorrow. Vivax I could definitely see being mafia but I don't think I want to lynch him as much as Koshi or DarthPunk at this point.

Holyflare is not townie in any way, in any point of his game. He might be misguided as fuck but never ever has he done anything townie.

Not sure I agree, I can follow his thoughts




Marv thinks holyflare is town, or at least not mafia because he can follow his thoughts. Why does Marv not say that in the first place? Why does he say nothing at all when it is clear he in fact has something to say?

between those posts, holyflare had not posted a thing.



I don't think this is as strong a point as you're making it out to be btw. He says he can't make much of Rayn's points about me and then denies rayn calling me mafia by saying he can follow my thought process (something you say you use to see if someone is townie too). Context is important here.


OK I can see how that works.

I already explained this. Thanks for ignoring that and responding to Hf though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 14:26 GMT
#757
On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

First vote on mafia probably.

All combinations have Sandro in them though.

DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst.

Then why aren’t you voting for sandro, if all combinations involve him? It’s obviously the correct play in the world you’re describing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 14:27 GMT
#758
On December 11 2023 23:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
First vote on mafia probably.


Aside from Sandro who everyone scumreads but nobody votes.

I'm just supposed to be a consolation prize for the scum team or something because Palmar forgot how to scum.

Coughs loudly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2023 14:38 GMT
#761
On December 11 2023 23:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 23:26 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

First vote on mafia probably.

All combinations have Sandro in them though.

DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst.

Then why aren’t you voting for sandro, if all combinations involve him? It’s obviously the correct play in the world you’re describing.


Because Palmar is more threatening to me and the game in general and has no pressure from anyone else whatsoever.
There's nothing in him that warrants a townread though.

It's just one of those games where it seems like I'm playing against cliques again so it distorts the scumhunting.

But it makes no sense as your vote is very unlikely to get him lynched and therefore wasted, so surely you should be voting for the person that a) you have a chance of getting lynched today and b) is in all your scumteams…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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