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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2023 23:10 GMT
#1425
On December 13 2023 08:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Why did you not want to lynch your 'lock mafia' then?

I wanted to consolidate.
This is my first post on page 4.
I dont want to bloat my filter.

So I give you max 1 more question.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2023 23:19 GMT
#1428
On December 13 2023 08:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Koshi who do you currently have as mafia?

I'll doall the people I previously said + hf again. Maybe I shouldnt dismiss him.

Sp somethong around
DMB
rayn
Chez
Tfrel
Sandroba
HF

Bit too much I guess.
If I have to soul pick

HF because his play is clean. But I hope he is smart town.
Like it is though because I hard defended sandroba and tfrel. I really need to read more. Sandroba buddied me with the "I think your reads are 100%". I gave in to peer pressure on him. Why is he calling me mafia? Not sure.
I should recheck if dmb did too eagerly vote Vivax. And then somewhat reluctantly voted off Vivax. (Vivax is a treath for her)
rayn I also just dont know. If he is reasonable he is more likely to be mafia. But I am more chill now as well so maybe we both are. Like rayn annoyed me in the good old days TvT. But ofc we can be friends and be TvT as well.

So we will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2023 23:19 GMT
#1430
On December 13 2023 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Marv i have a weird question.
Last game, how did your team feel about posting on night 1?

We were all depressed and cba.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2023 23:20 GMT
#1431
On December 13 2023 08:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Marv i have a weird question.
Last game, how did your team feel about posting on night 1?

We were all depressed and cba.

Town posts way too much and it is annoying as mafia. You are all posting way too much.

I will be stopping now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 08:30 GMT
#1526
DMB is mafia.
1) She is flying under the radar.
2) I think she voted Vivax because he is a threat to her. And because Vivax posted a good list.
On December 11 2023 11:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 11:07 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:54 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:44 Vivax wrote:
I'm not sure that Palmar's is a genuine effort to read me over some egotistical push.


I think you are failing your own town litmus test. Where you are usually more engaged as town.


Should have done enough to display my current thoughts. I'm hoping for wagons and vote accordingly.


You haven't though.


I can tell you who isn't in the clear for me: And that's a majority but I can't do much about it with my current degree of certainty.

You, marv, dmb, Chez, Palmar, HF. Sandro, Trfel.

I'm wondering if I should bury my sandro + Trfel approach and just assume it's two townies starting the game off like that.

##Unvote


Okey what kind of wagon are you trying to build here. Like i really really try to see it but now you making my opinion on you even worse
#vote vivax

3) Last one to move from Vivax to Sandroba. Even though she was moving with thread sentiment to a more Vivax is not mafia 30 mins prior.
4) Dont think she made 1 good post so far. Very bad of Palmar to make her so townie after that 1 "independent research" Vivax vote. Because really... That isn't that good at all.

Anyway. Start putting her in your PoE people.

##Vote Sandroba

(Last game I was mafai and I made a case on somebody and voted somebody else)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 09:01 GMT
#1527
On December 11 2023 21:20 Holyflare wrote:
Slam
Palmar
Koshi
DarthPunk
die_meatbaby

Trfel
Raynpelikoneet




All of the above have some kind of reasonable series of posts that give them plausible deniability from being mafia, or at least that I think have posted things that I can see as even townie. Some of them even at multiple points (slam, DP etc).

It leaves me with:

marvellosity
Vivax
Chezinu
Sandroba

Sure, there's the chance that you're the town in this 4, and it's actually quite a high possibility(!) but I haven't seen the things comparatively that the other players above have given to cross you off the list. Which is crazy considering koshi and slam are in it.

Vivax's posts are boring, he also has no proper engagement. Sandro similarly, more concerned with trying to look ok than solve the game. Chezinu is whatever, religious nonsense.


Do you remember why you put DMB so high?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 09:08 GMT
#1528
On December 13 2023 00:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2023 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like he himself appeared to be suspicious of sandroba at that point, but for some reason he votes for me when my post that is most solving in the game is questioning the player he is suspicious of.


Your question was bad. Even if I had read it, acknowledged it and mentioned it I still would have given the same reasons to vote for you. You didn't seem to care about any of it and you were just giving reads I didn't think you would give. It's that simple. Get over it.

If you want 2 names, I've given sandro and chez (and highlighted a post where chez breaks character that you should look at) but I can't really give you more than that other than I'm going to investigate trfel when I have some free time.

I think you look better purely from Sandro's filter. I think dmb, marv, possibly dp, slam all look better from their actions in the night surrounding the vivax lynch.

I think Koshi is a bit misguided but I don't think it's in a bad way, he's actively trying to shut down avenues for wagons. Although his last one he tried to shut down was sandroba which I probably need to get in to but I don't think it was done in an agenda-y way. He also raised the point (and was seemingly the only one to acknowledge at the time) my point about chezinu, which seems like good stuff.

Palmar is similar to koshi imo. I don't think his agenda has been malicious and I don't think he's pushing things to get the thread to go after mafia. Starting to highlight me for lack of activity is the proper play here as a townie and I think it's more than just going through the motions in that regard.

If I had to make an order it would be:

Sandro => Chez => Trfel => You => DP => DMB

How did DMB look better in the night before the lynch? She was not a prominent figure there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 11:16 GMT
#1542
On December 13 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 17:30 Koshi wrote:
DMB is mafia.
1) She is flying under the radar.
2) I think she voted Vivax because he is a threat to her. And because Vivax posted a good list.
On December 11 2023 11:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 11 2023 11:07 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:54 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:44 Vivax wrote:
I'm not sure that Palmar's is a genuine effort to read me over some egotistical push.


I think you are failing your own town litmus test. Where you are usually more engaged as town.


Should have done enough to display my current thoughts. I'm hoping for wagons and vote accordingly.


You haven't though.


I can tell you who isn't in the clear for me: And that's a majority but I can't do much about it with my current degree of certainty.

You, marv, dmb, Chez, Palmar, HF. Sandro, Trfel.

I'm wondering if I should bury my sandro + Trfel approach and just assume it's two townies starting the game off like that.

##Unvote


Okey what kind of wagon are you trying to build here. Like i really really try to see it but now you making my opinion on you even worse
#vote vivax

3) Last one to move from Vivax to Sandroba. Even though she was moving with thread sentiment to a more Vivax is not mafia 30 mins prior.
4) Dont think she made 1 good post so far. Very bad of Palmar to make her so townie after that 1 "independent research" Vivax vote. Because really... That isn't that good at all.

Anyway. Start putting her in your PoE people.

##Vote Sandroba

(Last game I was mafai and I made a case on somebody and voted somebody else)

So In your world, mafia DMB rolled the dice and tied up the votes, where another vote kills sandro, who you think is mafia?

I don’t understand why DMB chooses d1 lynch time to be most active if she is mafia, it’s just asking for trouble

Well. If Sandroba is not mafia. DMB prefers to lynch Vivax.
I think that is an important fact.

If Sandroba is mafia. We will have to consider how pressured she felt to switch as mafia with him. Praying nobody else woke up.

Not switching would have looked 100% damning because she was moving away from mafia Vivax for a while. At least 3 posts in 1h30 before the switch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 11:19 GMT
#1544
I just know that DMB should be very low on everybodies list and she isnt. We also know she can be pretty WTF as townie and she isnt here.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 11:24 GMT
#1547
On December 13 2023 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 20:16 Koshi wrote:
On December 13 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2023 17:30 Koshi wrote:
DMB is mafia.
1) She is flying under the radar.
2) I think she voted Vivax because he is a threat to her. And because Vivax posted a good list.
On December 11 2023 11:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 11 2023 11:07 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:54 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:44 Vivax wrote:
I'm not sure that Palmar's is a genuine effort to read me over some egotistical push.


I think you are failing your own town litmus test. Where you are usually more engaged as town.


Should have done enough to display my current thoughts. I'm hoping for wagons and vote accordingly.


You haven't though.


I can tell you who isn't in the clear for me: And that's a majority but I can't do much about it with my current degree of certainty.

You, marv, dmb, Chez, Palmar, HF. Sandro, Trfel.

I'm wondering if I should bury my sandro + Trfel approach and just assume it's two townies starting the game off like that.

##Unvote


Okey what kind of wagon are you trying to build here. Like i really really try to see it but now you making my opinion on you even worse
#vote vivax

3) Last one to move from Vivax to Sandroba. Even though she was moving with thread sentiment to a more Vivax is not mafia 30 mins prior.
4) Dont think she made 1 good post so far. Very bad of Palmar to make her so townie after that 1 "independent research" Vivax vote. Because really... That isn't that good at all.

Anyway. Start putting her in your PoE people.

##Vote Sandroba

(Last game I was mafai and I made a case on somebody and voted somebody else)

So In your world, mafia DMB rolled the dice and tied up the votes, where another vote kills sandro, who you think is mafia?

I don’t understand why DMB chooses d1 lynch time to be most active if she is mafia, it’s just asking for trouble

Well. If Sandroba is not mafia. DMB prefers to lynch Vivax.
I think that is an important fact.

If Sandroba is mafia. We will have to consider how pressured she felt to switch as mafia with him. Praying nobody else woke up.

Not switching would have looked 100% damning because she was moving away from mafia Vivax for a while. At least 3 posts in 1h30 before the switch.

But then why choose to be active around a lynch when mafiaxDMB knows that Vivax is town and Is therefore liable to start shitting towniness?

She chooses to be in the the thread while a town-Vivax has already started to post prolifically.

Seems like a crazy gamble?

She lives with Vivax and Vivax was online? Kinda sus if she is not posting anything while Vivax is fighting for his life.

Maybe shitty reason but your reasoning is pretty meh as well.

Like she has 20-30ish posts or so at that moment. There must be a time she actually plays. Maybe she decided there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 12:17 GMT
#1549
Tfrel Sandroba and DMB.
I think that is a fair team.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 14:33 GMT
#1582
On December 13 2023 22:36 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 17:30 Koshi wrote:
DMB is mafia.
1) She is flying under the radar.
2) I think she voted Vivax because he is a threat to her. And because Vivax posted a good list.
On December 11 2023 11:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 11 2023 11:07 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:54 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:44 Vivax wrote:
I'm not sure that Palmar's is a genuine effort to read me over some egotistical push.


I think you are failing your own town litmus test. Where you are usually more engaged as town.


Should have done enough to display my current thoughts. I'm hoping for wagons and vote accordingly.


You haven't though.


I can tell you who isn't in the clear for me: And that's a majority but I can't do much about it with my current degree of certainty.

You, marv, dmb, Chez, Palmar, HF. Sandro, Trfel.

I'm wondering if I should bury my sandro + Trfel approach and just assume it's two townies starting the game off like that.

##Unvote


Okey what kind of wagon are you trying to build here. Like i really really try to see it but now you making my opinion on you even worse
#vote vivax

3) Last one to move from Vivax to Sandroba. Even though she was moving with thread sentiment to a more Vivax is not mafia 30 mins prior.
4) Dont think she made 1 good post so far. Very bad of Palmar to make her so townie after that 1 "independent research" Vivax vote. Because really... That isn't that good at all.

Anyway. Start putting her in your PoE people.

##Vote Sandroba

(Last game I was mafai and I made a case on somebody and voted somebody else)

Koshi, what made you read me town in the first place? What made you think I'm mafia now?

I thought your initial post after 2 people posted was you overachieving and setting a statement you were going to carry the game.
After that I was potentially buddied by you and you shared all my reads.

Now I don't have any real reason for you to be mafia except that marv is voting for you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 16:11 GMT
#1608
Just did ctrl+f for "DMB" & another one for "meat" in both sandroba and tfrel filters.

tfrel: 1 hit. (DMB was mentioned in a quote, 0 times mentioned by Tfrel)
Sandroba 4 hits (1 time from my DMB is mafia post, which sandroba didn't expand on, just asked why I found him mafia) the other 3:
On December 12 2023 07:23 sandroba wrote:
I feel like rayn, you and koshi are town.
Lean town on slam, palmar (move to town if vivax is scum)
Neutral on hf, chezinu, dmb
I lean scum on vivax, marv, conflicted on trfel.

On December 13 2023 07:42 sandroba wrote:
dmb also looks bad

On December 13 2023 11:56 sandroba wrote:
I think mafia is within HF Trfel Chez Marv Koshi DMB. Would leave the last 3 for last maybe?

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 16:12 GMT
#1609
Like.... DMB is mafia... Best lynch imo.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 16:28 GMT
#1616
On December 14 2023 01:15 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 01:12 Koshi wrote:
Like.... DMB is mafia... Best lynch imo.

Somewhat likely, but according to your own logic we should kill either me or trfel or both first?

Bwaa. Simply isnt normal that nobody talks about her. In theory one of you could be town and ignoring her. Both? Unlikely due to PoE but if you are both town then she is it at the minimum really flying under the radar. And protected by higher powers. (For example Palmar)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 16:31 GMT
#1617
On December 14 2023 01:16 sandroba wrote:
Can you comment on the posts I quoted from Trfel?

I dont understand the case in it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 19:31 GMT
#1681
I didn't even make the list once? Shame.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 19:32 GMT
#1682
That being said. How am I not even a little suspicious? I am gunning for your head.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2023 19:54 GMT
#1685
On December 14 2023 04:36 Holyflare wrote:
0 words about me

You made the list twice so it's not all bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2023 00:50 GMT
#1695
2 am for me.
Need to sleep but this Dyson Sphere Peoject game is ruining my body.
I had a good night of sleep.
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