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On December 11 2023 07:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 07:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose. mafia I don’t see the point in talking about this yet. Of course he plays anti-town. In 24h if he plays the same still it’s more interesting. As he will be playing against his wincon if town which is just mega shitty and deserves a policy lynch
How can this look not mafia-perspective?
Hijole Marv what is that?
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On December 11 2023 07:41 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:38 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I might stay up to 1am just to see if Koshi is mafia or not. Hijole don't destroy your health Great advice. For God worked 6 days and rested on the 7th. Man is not God whom always works. Man is weak and must realistic his humble state and sleep to become more aware and repair. Not taking a day off can lead to anxiety, stress, less time with family, and sadness. Oh and also stupidity!
Oh
As a pretty regular sabbath breaker at many points in my life, this explains a lot!
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Had it not already stoppedㅡ are tfel and dp this slow to make post? Can't be, as DP has been posting about ㅡnot thatㅡ since page 24
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On December 11 2023 07:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:42 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:40 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 07:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose. mafia I don’t see the point in talking about this yet. Of course he plays anti-town. In 24h if he plays the same still it’s more interesting. As he will be playing against his wincon if town which is just mega shitty and deserves a policy lynch How can this look not mafia-perspective? Hijole Marv what is that? Reword please Slam? What are you saying or asking me?
Ok yes sorry I am bad with words many oftens
How can you respond this way, to what Koshi has been thus far, while not knowing already that Koshi is town?
There is poor word choice- my overwhelmingly common error- and then there is saying that if Koshi plays anti town, he should be lynched on policy rather than
Just
Lynched
Because maybe he is mafia? This is like "if he plays anti town, he does this as town (I will grant as a lot of us do this) but if he keeps it up, we lynch him even if he is town" but never mentioning "or he is just mafia and win win win"?
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On December 11 2023 07:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Had it not already stoppedㅡ are tfel and dp this slow to make post? Can't be, as DP has been posting about ㅡnot thatㅡ since page 24 Still don’t understand, but I was catching up a bunch of pages and it was a lot of DP Trfel. Which I’ve still not talked about. So I still don’t know what’s going on tbh
Good point.
That was directed more broadly too,
But why didn't you mention
Hijole it is not wifom even if a mistake
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On December 11 2023 07:49 DarthPunk wrote:
I have no idea what Koshi actually thinks and he can post pretty much whatever he wants and have plausible deniability.
I can see why he wants to do this.
I think we should lynch him for it TBH.
Doesn't hurt that its closer to his scum meta than his town meta based on an incredibly large sample size of 3 games or something.
See marv this is a town way of expressing the same sentiment
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On December 11 2023 07:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:48 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:44 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:42 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:40 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 07:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose. mafia I don’t see the point in talking about this yet. Of course he plays anti-town. In 24h if he plays the same still it’s more interesting. As he will be playing against his wincon if town which is just mega shitty and deserves a policy lynch How can this look not mafia-perspective? Hijole Marv what is that? Reword please Slam? What are you saying or asking me? Ok yes sorry I am bad with words many oftens How can you respond this way, to what Koshi has been thus far, while not knowing already that Koshi is town? There is poor word choice- my overwhelmingly common error- and then there is saying that if Koshi plays anti town, he should be lynched on policy rather than Just Lynched Because maybe he is mafia? This is like "if he plays anti town, he does this as town (I will grant as a lot of us do this) but if he keeps it up, we lynch him even if he is town" but never mentioning "or he is just mafia and win win win"? Of course maybe he’s mafia, but there’s no real reason to think so other than what he has been doing is anti-town. Although he seems he kinda can’t help himself and is making a couple of relevant posts now. Which was my point about waiting. Anyway I still don’t understand what you’re getting at, it’s either policy lynch town or hit mafia. Didn’t think I needed to be that explicit…
Right but now it is gonna wifom me to no end
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On December 11 2023 07:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:49 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:48 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Had it not already stoppedㅡ are tfel and dp this slow to make post? Can't be, as DP has been posting about ㅡnot thatㅡ since page 24 Still don’t understand, but I was catching up a bunch of pages and it was a lot of DP Trfel. Which I’ve still not talked about. So I still don’t know what’s going on tbh Good point. That was directed more broadly too, But why didn't you mention Hijole it is not wifom even if a mistake Why didn’t I mention what? I can’t say I’m enjoying this exchange, I’m just getting confused :p
*why weren't you explicit,*
which you just explained.
And mid composition I realized I cannot be satisfied now and don't want to waste your time in the equally likely spot that you are town.
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On December 11 2023 07:52 DarthPunk wrote:Slam is beast mode here WTF. 
I have great fear
Last time I did this I was PL
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I know. But I am also aware that I can jump to conclusions faster than Milo and the Humbug in "The Phantom Tollbooth"
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On December 11 2023 08:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Slam is chez town?
Leaning toward a hard yes but can't give a hard yes yet.
He is no fool, but he can fool...
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Whether or not he answers Rayn's Spanish question (if he needs, I will translate it here: RED OR BLUE?) and how he answers if he does will bring much clarity. I won't say which way until he does or until later.
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On December 11 2023 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 08:24 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 08:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Slam is chez town? Leaning toward a hard yes but can't give a hard yes yet. He is no fool, but he can fool... Any other reads?>
Yes.
Koshi town.
You (DP) town.
Rayn town.
Palmar town.
Holyflare possible scum but 1. I have a fear negative bias out of respect for his scum play and 2. He has been culling that in me, but 3. 1 makes this wifom.
Trfel possible scum.
The rest are unclear enough for me to not provide reads.
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On December 11 2023 08:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 08:24 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 08:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Slam is chez town? Leaning toward a hard yes but can't give a hard yes yet. He is no fool, but he can fool... Any other reads?> Yes. Koshi town. You (DP) town. Rayn town. Palmar town. Holyflare possible scum but 1. I have a fear negative bias out of respect for his scum play and 2. He has been culling that in me, but 3. 1 makes this wifom. Trfel possible scum. The rest are unclear enough for me to not provide reads.
Marv was a strong town until I wifomed the shit out of myself. For about 20 minutes he was the strongest SR and I realized what could easily have happened in the middle of that and went hard "IDK and there is fear" on his alignment.
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Marv explaining exactly what I had already realized helped as much as is possible so I will effectively treat him as town for at least this cycle.
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On December 11 2023 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Koshi strong town to you slam?
Largely due to Marv.
I think the problem is you don't vote your read and promote that with conviction. You vote after others suggest it.
That is low key scummy but not damning (many players do this) so it doesn't get you SR outright but it also makes your efforts to convince others kinda feckless.
That or I missed your earlier vote with conviction.
Maybe you did that with Trfel but in that case, it would be due to "wrong target" as too many town read him at the time/weren't in the mood to throw down votes yet.
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On December 11 2023 08:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 08:41 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Koshi strong town to you slam? Largely due to Marv. I think the problem is you don't vote your read and promote that with conviction. You vote after others suggest it. That is low key scummy but not damning (many players do this) so it doesn't get you SR outright but it also makes your efforts to convince others kinda feckless. That or I missed your earlier vote with conviction. Maybe you did that with Trfel but in that case, it would be due to "wrong target" as too many town read him at the time/weren't in the mood to throw down votes yet. I'm talking about trfel, he is my only strong scum read right now. Koshi is closer to voting against the meta abuse.
Oh
Yeah then I just need more posts to observe and see that Trfel is likely before I can vote him.
Not from you, I know where you stand and why.
Only thing keeping me is that I know everyone (including myself) is capable of having excellent reasons to be dead wrong.
Sure, you are convinced and have reason to be.
But do I have reason to be?
I conclude, no, not yet.
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On December 11 2023 08:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted Trefel has me in his top two lynch candidates, why would he do that and then talk to me like I'm town.- Trefel formed a "scum" (without actually calling me scum) read on me based on 'lack of thread presence' - Trefel then acknowledged that it was the middle of the night and that may explain the lack of thread presence -Trefel then proceeds to try and get several others to post their thoughts on me -Trefel then says I am suspicious based on lack of thread presence (which should be discounted based on timezones) and the fact I called sandroba town. -Trefel then says Sandroba looks better based on exactly the reasoning I gave for not finding Sandroba suspicious. Basically his justifications for his top 2 lynch candidate read on me is farcical.
Regarding Holyflare:Did he actually try and justify that vote on you from the start of the game? Cause that does look bad. Can you quote this post? Show nested quote +Trefel then says I am suspicious based on lack of thread presence (which should be discounted based on timezones) and the fact I called sandroba town. Probably a disservice to what you write but you fill up a lot of thread gets clogged up with you going back and forth with the person you already think is mafia to the point where I just zone out and don't want to engage anywhere near either of you. This post is probably good though if it is correct so thanks for the summary. I don't agree with your "he's calling me town" rhetoric though, I think that was clutching at straws.
And see, this is why I can't SR HF despite his being my top suspect. Because he makes stuff like this and I know my own bias.
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Hey, look at that, traction!  maybe patience issue xD
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